Looking for a gpu for an office PC

[Trembletop]

I got my hands on a old work PC for relatively cheap,  it has a i7 8700 and 16 gb of ram (i'm going to purchase another stick to make it 32) This PC is going to be used for gaming but I've encountered 3 problems. Problem No. 1 the clearance isn't very large 

Problem No. 2 the power supply is only 210W

Problem No. 3 The CPU will likely bottleneck something like the GTX 1650

 

Please suggest any GPUs that you think could work

 

All specs for PC here: https://www.newegg.ca/lenovo-thinkcentre-m720t-business-desktops-workstations/p/1VH-006T-000A3

Edited April 26 by Trembletop
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[filpo]

11 minutes ago, Trembletop said:

it has a i7 8700 and 16 gb of ram (i'm going to purchase another stick to make it

8700 should be perfectly competent for a low profile 1650 or 6400

 

11 minutes ago, Trembletop said:

Please suggest any GPUs that you think could work

I think even a 3050 6gb low profile could work, 1080p right? 3050 6gb is only about 1.5x better than a 1650

which one out of these workstations is it? if it's the smallest one you won't be able to put in a dgpu

[ImWilly]

7 minutes ago, Trembletop said:

Problem No. 2 the power supply is only 210W

Realistically with that PSU capacity, GTX 1650 is the best it can do

 

But if you want, you can do a bit make over by changing the Motherboard and CPU to B650 and Ryzen 8600G

It is the best integrated GPU and powerful enough for budget gaming

 

 

 

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, ImWilly said:

Realistically with that PSU capacity, GTX 1650 is the best it can do

3050 6GB? 8700 doesn't turbo too much above it's tdp and 3050 6gb tdp is 70W

[ImWilly]

4 minutes ago, filpo said:

3050 6GB? 8700 doesn't turbo too much above it's tdp and 3050 6gb tdp is 70W

Oh yeah, almost forgot RTX 3050 exist

I always thought that RTX 3060 is the lowest tier

RTX 3050 should be good enough for budget without breaking the PSU

 

[tkitch]

which of the three systems on that page do you have?

Tower?  Desktop?  Mini?

[filpo]

4 minutes ago, ImWilly said:

Oh yeah, almost forgot RTX 3050 exist

I always thought that RTX 3060 is the lowest tier

RTX 3050 should be good enough for budget without breaking the PSU

 

on second thoughts @Trembletop this made me remember that the A380 sparkle is on a deal at amazon currently (only $100 USD for the card). it is in the US but amazon is quite good with shipping and it's also a new card. Though the 3050 6gb does perform better than this by quite a margin

[Trembletop]

12 minutes ago, filpo said:

 the A380 sparkle is on a deal at amazon currently (only $100 USD for the card). it is in the US but amazon is quite good with shipping and it's also a new card. Though the 3050 6gb does perform better than this by quite a margin

 

It seems that this went on sale and instantly went out of stock,  I can get this card for about 220 cad but I'm willing to spend the extra $30 for more performance with the 3050

[jaslion]

13 minutes ago, filpo said:

on second thoughts @Trembletop this made me remember that the A380 sparkle is on a deal at amazon currently (only $100 USD for the card). it is in the US but amazon is quite good with shipping and it's also a new card. Though the 3050 6gb does perform better than this by quite a margin

Just so you know this thing doesnt have resiable bar or pcie 4.0 making the rx6400, rx6500 and arc gpu's a bd choice as they take a good bit of a hit when bar and pcie 4.0 are not available. To the point they can feel unusable due to hitching.

 

Also keep in mind that the rx6400 and 6500xt has NO MEDIA ENCODING/DECODING!!!! This is a BIG deal as this means any video watching is entirely on the cpu and this can oftwn result in not a great watching experience if its a heavy video.

[jaslion]

1 minute ago, Trembletop said:

It seems that this went on sale and instantly went out of stock,  I can get this card for about 220 cad but I'm willing to spend the extra $30 for more performance with the 3050

Honestly at thisnpoint stop, sell the 8700 thing for an easy 150-200 cad and just buy a used gaming pc thats flat out better.

 

 

[ImWilly]

37 minutes ago, filpo said:

 A380

I just checked on techpowerup website, it seems that it pales in comparison for relative performance compared to RTX 3050 (8GB version)

I'm still not familiar with Intel ARC GPU, and seeing that huge performance difference, I'm not sure if either this table result not accurate or Intel ARC A380 is not optimized (yet)

 

Then again, the price difference is 1-to-1 (Intel ARC USD 99, RTX 3050 USD179)
So probably safe to say "you get what you pay"

 

 

[Agall]

1 hour ago, Trembletop said:

I got my hands on a old work PC for relatively cheap,  it has a i7 8700 and 16 gb of ram (i'm going to purchase another stick to make it 32) This PC is going to be used for gaming but I've encountered 3 problems. Problem No. 1 the clearance isn't very large 

Problem No. 2 the power supply is only 210W

Problem No. 3 The CPU will likely bottleneck something like the GTX 1650

 

Please suggest any GPUs that you think could work

 

All specs for PC here: https://www.newegg.ca/lenovo-thinkcentre-m720t-business-desktops-workstations/p/1VH-006T-000A3

Its not impossible for 210W to be incapable of supporting any dGPU considering the machine is probably >5 years old.

 

I think what's important is for us to understand your budget. If you're simply looking for the best value for the money, a used GTX 1650 or RTX 3050 6GB can probably fit but still might overdraw the PSU. There are low profile versions, but I imagine you'll still end up just having to get an RTX 3050 6GB which are $180-$190 for such.

 

Worst case scenario, its still a decent workstation machine, but I don't think its worth pumping money into for gaming. Both of those low tier dGPUs are at least not e-waste tier (especially now that Ryzen has iGPUs) and the RTX 3050 6GB can at least be used for its newer NVENC and RTX video enhancement features.

[Agall]

3 minutes ago, ImWilly said:

I just checked on techpowerup website, it seems that it pales in comparison for relative performance compared to RTX 3050 (8GB version)

I'm still not familiar with Intel ARC GPU, and seeing that huge performance difference, I'm not sure if either this table result not accurate or Intel ARC A380 is not optimized (yet)

 

Then again, the price difference is 1-to-1 (Intel ARC USD 99, RTX 3050 USD179)
So probably safe to safe "you get what you pay"

 

 

RTX 3050 8GB doesn't apply here, it has AUX power requirements that a 210W PSU definitely won't have. The RTX 3050 6GB being unique in this relative to any RTX cards

 

Techpowerup is a great site and all, but their relative performance isn't something to live by. The Arc A380 is a hilariously capable GPU for the price it asks but is entirely not worth it in any system that can't deliberately enable ReBAR and plans to play video games.

[filpo]

3 minutes ago, ImWilly said:

Then again, the price difference is 1-to-1 (Intel ARC USD 99, RTX 3050 USD179)

3050 6gb has less cuda cores and less vram and bus width than the 3050 8gb, it performs around 25% better than the a380 (3050 6gb is comparable to an rx 580)