Battlefield 5 may be a Nvidia GameWorks title as DICE ditches AMD for Nvidia

[AlTech]

Battlefield 5 may be a Nvidia GameWorks The Way It's Meant To Be PlayedTM title. DICE have ditched AMD as their hardware partner for Nvidia for the first time since 2013 when AMD partnered with them to make Battlefield 4.

 

 

This is what Nvidia had to say on the matter:

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As the PC platform, we’re helping the Battlefield V development team create the definitive PC experience. NVIDIA engineers are working with the Battlefield V developers at DICE to bring the best aspects of the GeForce gaming platform to bear for PC gamers, meaning GeForce Experience will deliver Game Ready drivers, Optimal Playable settings, and other NVIDIA-platform features for Battlefield V. In addition, we are working on integrating cutting-edge technologies, optimizing performance, and creating the definitive PC experience.

 

 

This is from the WCCFTech Article:

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It sounds like there may even be NVIDIA GameWorks features available in Battlefield V PC, though they haven’t been confirmed yet.

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Interestingly, the reveal trailer was deemed to be representative of the Xbox One experience by the developers, suggesting that Battlefield V PC could look much better at maximum settings.

 

So yeah, GG AMD users. Hopefully the performance penalty won't be too much for AMD users since typically GameWorks titles don't run very well on AMD cards because of Nvidia's nonsense.

 

Source: https://wccftech.com/dice-partners-nvidia-battlefield-v-pc/

[captain cactus]

GimpWorks can fuck right off.

[Morgan MLGman]

RIP optimization...

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

So yeah, GG AMD users. Hopefully the performance penalty won't be too much for AMD users since typically GameWorks titles don't run very well on AMD cards because of Nvidia's nonsense.

The issue is that those titles run poorly on Nvidia cards as well, mainly those GimpWorks features...

[Silentprototipe]

Well RIP any chance my Vega 8 will run the game thanks to GimpWorks  

[Bouzoo]

BFV using Gameworks is a far bigger reason to be concerned than it having a female amputee on the front line. And I'll bet you the crowd will go mild on this one. 

[Cole5]

Just so long as it runs on my xbox than BF4 did at launch sounds fine to me

[ItsMitch]

7 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

GameWorks

Looks like I won't be buying a BF5 this year. 

[AlTech]

6 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

RIP optimization...

The issue is that those titles run poorly on Nvidia cards as well, mainly those GimpWorks features...

Yup. I have a feeling GTX 700 and GTX 900 series owners will complain of poor performance.

[Ginger_]

2 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Yup. I have a feeling GTX 700 and GTX 900 series owners will complain of poor performance.

Minimum specs for playing is a 660. A $100 card won't have any issues at reasonable settings

[AlTech]

Just now, Ginger_ said:

Minimum specs for playing is a 660. A $100 card won't have any issues at reasonable settings

Same requirements for BF4, BF1 and BF Hardline.

 

But if it comes with Nvidia GameWorks settings enabled, the game will not run well on anything older than GTX 10 series.

 

A GTX 660 2GB is the bare minimum. I fully expect a GTX 1060 6GB and RX 480 8GB to be recommended for BF5. 

 

 When devs say Minimum, sometimes they refer to 1080p 30 fps sometimes they refer to 720p 60fps.

 

If BF5 runs well on AMD, It will only be because Frostbite 3 has been very optimized for AMD since it came out in 2013.

[D13H4RD]

BF5 isn't on my list of games to consider

 

Mostly because EA is still on my blacklist and they have repeatedly failed to get out of it.

 

I don't expect BF5's release to be earth-shattering, and after a while, BF4 will probably get populated again

 

But we'll see

[matrix07012]

Well...

#NotMyBattlefield

[ravenshrike]

27 minutes ago, captain cactus said:

GimpWorks can fuck right off.

It's funny because there will almost certainly be a setting which increases the intricacy of the cosmetic items, including prosthetics. Personally I can't wait until someone hacks the PC version so they're wearing dual fake arms and two eyepatches.

[D13H4RD]

If GameWorks indeed makes it, the worst that can happen is if it is forced on and there isn't a way to toggle them.

 

"Definitive PC experience"? I'd rather have 25 extra FPS than extra visual flair that I can barely even see!

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

If GameWorks indeed makes it, the worst that can happen is if it is forced on and there isn't a way to toggle them.

Nope. Each GameWorks game so far has had the option to disable most of it if not all of it.

[Blademaster91]

1 minute ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

BF5 isn't on my list of games to consider

 

Mostly because EA is still on my blacklist and they have repeatedly failed to get out of it.

 

I don't expect BF5's release to be earth-shattering, and after a while, BF4 will probably get populated again

 

But we'll see

EA's Hardline or BF1 weren't on my list at all. BF4 launch was really f*ckedup but the game is well worth it now as people are jumping back into it from BF1. I just can't expect much since EA hasn't listened to the community since the BF4 bug fixes.

Though BF5 being a gameworks title doesn't surprise me since Nvidia was all over the reveal.

[D13H4RD]

2 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Nope. Each GameWorks game so far has had the option to disable most of it if not all of it.

And I sincerely hope it stays that way

 

Losing a chunk of my FPS isn't worth it at all if there isn't even a difference that's even perceptible in the absolute slightest

[Humbug]

Bad news for geforce owners. Gaming Evolved Titles tend to run better on Nvidia cards as well.

 

It's a shame because Dice and their frostbite engine had developed a reputation for good optimization. Well we can hope that since they have that solid foundation in place it will carry forward into the future as well.

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, Humbug said:

Bad news for geforce owners. Gaming Evolved Titles tend to run better on Nvidia cards as well.

Not necessarily. There's not much (if any) performance penalty associated with Gaming Evolved Titles.

[ItsMitch]

21 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

can only pray Dice does the sensible thing

That's a big fucking pray 

[Humbug]

1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

Nope. Each GameWorks game so far has had the option to disable most of it if not all of it.

The issue has not just been the effects. By being happy to partner with every crap running game unfortunately Nvidia showed that they have no standards. That's how they ruined the reputation of both gameworks and other brands. They should have turned it into a seal of quality to be a geforce partner game, instead they turned it into a badge of shame.

 

It should have represented the best of PC in terms of graphical quality:performance. But I suppose they think if it runs like crap people will buy newer GPUs.

[laminutederire]

6 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Not necessarily. There's not much (if any) performance penalty associated with Gaming Evolved Titles.

I think it was his point precisely. Gaming evolved titles don't incur a huge penalty like gameworks does, hence they tend to run better than gameworks titles for both AMD and Nvidia, when gameworks runs bad on every cards even if it favours Nvidia recent cards.

All in all, it'd seem that those titles would run better even on Nvidias hardware.

This does make sense when you think hard about it. Amd doesn't have game devs in their pocket do they push for well thought off optimizations that reduce the computations theoretically, so it'll run better for everyone. Nvidia tend to make shortcut to leverage as much as possible their architecture even if it's not the right way to do it, hence the disaster of gameworks

[laminutederire]

3 minutes ago, Humbug said:

 

That's a good business model to be fair...

[cj09beira]

4 minutes ago, laminutederire said:

I think it was his point precisely. Gaming evolved titles don't incur a huge penalty like gameworks does, hence they tend to run better than gameworks titles for both AMD and Nvidia, when gameworks runs bad on every cards even if it favours Nvidia recent cards.

All in all, it'd seem that those titles would run better even on Nvidias hardware.

This does make sense when you think hard about it. Amd doesn't have game devs in their pocket do they push for well thought off optimizations that reduce the computations theoretically, so it'll run better for everyone. Nvidia tend to make shortcut to leverage as much as possible their architecture even if it's not the right way to do it, hence the disaster of gameworks

i think part of it is that nvidea will go out of their way to make amd's performance worse with things like excessive tessellation and thus reducing everyones perf but more so on amd's side

[Humbug]

21 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

i think part of it is that nvidea will go out of their way to make amd's performance worse with things like excessive tessellation and thus reducing everyones perf but more so on amd's side

For whatever reason in general in the minds of gamers being an AMD gaming evolved title in general brings positive associations in terms of graphical performance, while Nvidia is the opposite. I think One factor is that AMD had a more limited budget for this stuff and so they targetted particular devs and worked closely with them to make sure it was something that elevated the 'gaming evolved' moniker. There are always exceptions but for the most part it represented quality. Whereas Nvidia probably had a much higher budget which combined with their lack of quality standards resulted in them being thrown under the bus with all kinds of crap including the likes of Arkham Knight and AC unity etc.