Tachyum teases tenfold performance boost for CPU's

[DerEntinator]

The company Tachyum claims the developt an "Universal Processor" with the combined benefits of GPU's and CPU's as a CPU replacement that is 10x faster than common CPU's.

Also they say that they will reach the processing capacity of a human braim sized neural network in 2020 by using 256.000 of their Prodigy processors.

 

"A small processor start-up, Tachyum, claims to have developed a 'universal processor platform' which offers an order-of-magnitude improvement over the performance-per-watt of existing chips - and claims it will be ready to simulate a human brain in real-time on the platform by 2020."

 

Here is an article about the claims they make:

https://www.bit-tech.net/news/tech/cpus/tachyum-teases-tenfold-performance-boost/1/

 

And some more for cross-checking:

https://www.scientific-computing.com/news/tachyum-announce-new-processor-platform

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tachyum-unveils-the-worlds-1st-universal-processor-platform-with-more-than-10x-the-performance-of-conventional-processors-300650493.html

 

And the presentation they made:

https://www.slideshare.net/insideHPC/introducing-the-tachyum-prodigy-processor

[Taf the Ghost]

By 2020, then mean beyond 2050.

[Sniperfox47]

16 minutes ago, DerEntinator said:

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Ehh I'll believe it when I see it.

 

If these processors are truly massively parrallel like they imply I've got to wonder how they'll perform on real world workloads.

 

Even if they do work well it's meaningless to the end consumer because they're not x86 so they're worthless.

 

On the data center side it still means redesigning all your software for the new architecture, and right now most of that work is going into redevelopment for RISC-V. If the real-world performance isn't actually that big I expect data centers to largely ignore it.

 

All in all the lack of details and proven silicon make this look more like a cry for investors or acquisition rather than an actual tech announcement.

[Bouzoo]

I find it quite peculiar when 1 post accounts that are not even an hour old, post news about tech from a startup that (obviously) needs investors, with a promise that seems to good to be true. 

I do see that people involved are ex-Skyera folks whom WD bought, so they are legit, but I am more than skeptical about this.

 

 

[ScratchCat]

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Tachyum’s architecture overcomes the limitations of semiconductor device physics, which were thought to be insolvable. Tachyum in essence solved the performance problem of connecting very fast transistors with very slow wires

If a company claims to have overcome a limitation which has caused issues for multi billion dollar companies I think some sort of proof or explanation would be appropriate.

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About Tachyum

Named for the Greek “tachy,” meaning speed, combined with “-um,” indicating an element, Tachyum emerged from stealth mode in 2017 to engineer disruptive intelligent information processing products.

You are a company, not a Klingon attack vessel...

[Shally]

That's a skeptical deadline tbf

[leadeater]

You know who else tried this and failed, AMD.

[MyName13]

2 minutes ago, leadeater said:

You know who else tried this and failed, AMD.

When?Are you talking about their heterogeneous APUs?

[leadeater]

5 minutes ago, MyName13 said:

When?Are you talking about their heterogeneous APUs?

Yep, their HSA program. Combine CPU and GPU in to a unified computing platform and tasks will be executed where they perform the fastest. Was a lot of talk and not much actual delivery.

[Sniperfox47]

Just now, leadeater said:

Yep, their HSA program. Combine CPU and GPU in to a unified computing platform and tasks will be executed where they perform the fastest. Was a lot of talk and not much actual delivery.

Isn't HSA still a big push on the server side, and isn't AMD still a big player?

 

HSA is still a big deal on phones too, just less in your face.

 

I'll admit I haven't followed HSA much in the past few years but thought it was still very much alive and kicking?

[leadeater]

 

Strikingly accurate meme.

[Taf the Ghost]

2 minutes ago, leadeater said:

You know who else tried this and failed, AMD.

Watch it be 8-way CMT.

 

Though it's probably something more like a GPU design with "core" processing abilities, and on-die memory. Or something like that. They don't seem to have any focus for Desktop, so they do have space to do some really wonky things.

[leadeater]

4 minutes ago, Sniperfox47 said:

Isn't HSA still a big push on the server side, and isn't AMD still a big player?

 

HSA is still a big deal on phones too, just less in your face.

 

I'll admit I haven't followed HSA much in the past few years but thought it was still very much alive and kicking?

Yea I think it ultimately morphed in to or Gen-Z was seen as more viable program. Every major player, not Intel or Nvidia, are in on that and HPE have a working system called The Machine.

[Sniperfox47]

3 minutes ago, leadeater said:

and HPE have a working system called The Machine.

Best. Name. Ever. "AND IN THIS CORNER WE HAVE... THE MACHINE!!!!"

 

5 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Watch it be 8-way CMT.

Or 8-way per core SMT. Watch out Power, they're coming for you xP

 

6 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Though it's probably something more like a GPU design with "core" processing abilities, and on-die memory. Or something like that. They don't seem to have any focus for Desktop, so they do have space to do some really wonky things.

So like the reverse of what Intel did with Xeon Phi?

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, leadeater said:

Yea I think it ultimately morphed in to or Gen-Z was seen as more viable program. Every major player, not Intel or Nvidia, are in on that and HPE have a working system called The Machine.

AMD is headed toward some of the Gen-Z approach with the direction Zen design suggests. Plus their Game Consoles are getting there with each generation.

 

As for this Tachyum stuff, given the BS-ish talking points, I'm guessing it's an approach that requires complete vertical integration within the product. They're probably planning to put a bunch of their APUs on fully built boards.

[asus killer]

too good to be true.

 

one thing i don't get following their own tweet they say they have unveiled today this new chip. But there isn't a single proof beyond bold claims, shouldn't an unveil have involve something more?

[Dabombinable]

This is the kind of thing that Sony was going to use in the PS3. Thing is, they are bloody difficult to program for.

[Sniperfox47]

5 minutes ago, asus killer said:

too good to be true.

 

one thing i don't get following their own tweet they say they have unveiled today this new chip. But there isn't a single proof beyond bold claims, shouldn't an unveil have involve something more?

They also released a white paper on the new architecture. But yeah "new chip" implies they're announcing silicon, but they just announced the architecture and not even in much detail.

[Arika]

1 hour ago, DerEntinator said:

Also they say that they will reach the processing capacity of a human brain sized neural network in 2020

bull, shit

[GOTSpectrum]

36 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Yep, their HSA program. Combine CPU and GPU in to a unified computing platform and tasks will be executed where they perform the fastest. Was a lot of talk and not much actual delivery.

Wasn't this also the original idea of the APU, They believed that in the futures more of the core processes would be performed on the GPU.

[Master Disaster]

1 hour ago, DerEntinator said:

The company Tachyum claims the developt an "Universal Processor" with the combined benefits of GPU's and CPU's as a CPU replacement that is 10x faster than common CPU's.

Also they say that they will reach the processing capacity of a human braim sized neural network in 2020 by using 256.000 of their Prodigy processors.

 

"A small processor start-up, Tachyum, claims to have developed a 'universal processor platform' which offers an order-of-magnitude improvement over the performance-per-watt of existing chips - and claims it will be ready to simulate a human brain in real-time on the platform by 2020."

 

Here is an article about the claims they make:

https://www.bit-tech.net/news/tech/cpus/tachyum-teases-tenfold-performance-boost/1/

 

And some more for cross-checking:

https://www.scientific-computing.com/news/tachyum-announce-new-processor-platform

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tachyum-unveils-the-worlds-1st-universal-processor-platform-with-more-than-10x-the-performance-of-conventional-processors-300650493.html

 

And the presentation they made:

https://www.slideshare.net/insideHPC/introducing-the-tachyum-prodigy-processor

If it looks like snake oil and smells like snake oil then it's probably snake oil.

 

Prove that it's not Snake Oil Tachyum.

[Nicnac]

1 hour ago, VegetableStu said:

I do not want to hear pronunciations of that word, because it'd 100% be tech (in technology) -yum (in mmm yum) and I will cringe into a dried prune.

what about "techy-uhm..."? 

[S w a t s o n]

x86 needs to die eventually anyways. x64 is useful as an extension but I really believe we need a new architecture going forward. If they can pull these performance gains out of their asses, I dont care if it's running on MIPS (OK maybe not, but you get my point)

[TechyBen]

3 hours ago, leadeater said:

You know who else tried this and failed, AMD.

And Intel. Lest we not be bias!

[matrix07012]

4 hours ago, DerEntinator said:

and claims it will be ready to simulate a human brain in real-time on the platform by 2020.