iPhone X is dead as consumers turn their backs on pricey smartphones

[79wjd]

14 minutes ago, XenosTech said:

Can't compare phones and cars... That's an apple to Zebras comparison. I have legit reasons to buy a $1000 phone, doesn't mean I should buy it. That's why they're cheaper alternatives that do exactly the same thing. In the last few years "budget" phones have all the bells and whistles that the flagships have minus the gimmickey stuff they have on flagships these days calling them features.

And a ten year old Honda Civic is safe, can seat five passengers comfortably, gets good mileage, and can reliably get you from point A to point B.

[XenosTech]

35 minutes ago, The Viking said:

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Yes it's how tech evolves but 90% of the people who buy this stuff don't actually buy them to use them to their full capabilities and more often than not they just buy it for bragging rights. It's like when my aunt bought the Note 5 because it was the best and she could barely figure out how to make a phone call on the thing and in the field I work in, it gets really annoying when everyone has all these flagship devices and they run to the IT guy to get help with doing remedial tasks.

 

34 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

And a ten year old Honda Civic is safe, can seat five passengers comfortably, gets good mileage, and can reliably get you from point A to point B.

Not sure if trolling or being serious 

[PhantomJaguarr]

I'd be nervous getting an expensive AF phone. Afraid I might lose it. I see customers forget their phones at my work, and sure enough, most of them are flagships . 

 

 

[Egg-Roll]

1 hour ago, Commodus said:

It's like asking why someone would buy anything other than a 10-year-old Honda Civic... or why someone would spend money on a free-to-play game like Warframe, for that matter.  Some people have different priorities than you, and if the investment makes them happy and doesn't hurt them, there shouldn't be an issue.

Maybe they could buy that 10 year old car by buying a cheaper $350 phone over buying the brand new $1000 one. Never thought of that now have you? Blowing $1000 on a phone makes no sense where a computer that costs $1200 can do so much more even a laptop with a SIM card. Sure size, but if you need a phone and computing power a side bag gives little to no inconvenience.

 

13 hours ago, mr moose said:

I've had personal conversations with marketing managers in Japan who say it is bad,  I am assuming you simply mean it is worse in SK rather than meaning it is not like that in Japan?

You'd believe a marketing manager? Truth be told just like everywhere it depends on where inside the country we are talking about, most of Japan likely isn't all crazy about tech but I can see Tokyo being bad.

 

1 hour ago, The Viking said:

or the features

Where's my stylus? Oh wait, that's not in the higher tier phones or most of them anyways. Headphone jack? Nope, many don't have that either... Yea $1000 phones full of features /s (yea yea I dont use the last one either and wouldn't miss it).

 

 

[CTR640]

I turn my back on pricey smartphones, GPU's, CPU's, RAM and so on. I even turn my back on pricey escorts.

[Guest The Viking]

20 minutes ago, XenosTech said:

Yes it's how tech evolves but 90% of the people who buy this stuff actually buy them to use them to their full capabilities and more often than not they just buy it for bragging rights. It's like when my aunt bought the Note 5 because it was the best and she could barely figure out how to make a phone call on the thing and in the feil I work in, it gets really annoying when everyone has all these flagship devices and they run to the IT guy to get help with doing remedial tasks.

It's bragging rights, yeah, that's how it is really. Especially with Apple devices.

[Guest The Viking]

16 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

Where's my stylus? Oh wait, that's not in the higher tier phones or most of them anyways. Headphone jack? Nope, many don't have that either... Yea $1000 phones full of features /s (yea yea I dont use the last one either and wouldn't miss it).

maybe you're looking at the wrong phones. iphone's have always been about status and samsung seems to be going downhill. One brand out there introduced some really interesting stuff in their latest flagships using "AI" 

 

Spoiler

mate 10, mate 10 pro, p20, p20 pro, mate 10 porsche design, mate rs porsche design, all come with "AI", improving speed of your phone overtime, battery life & photography. That's worth more than a styles.

 

 

[TacoSenpai]

1 hour ago, The Viking said:

maybe you're looking at the wrong phones. iphone's have always been about status and samsung seems to be going downhill. One brand out there introduced some really interesting stuff in their latest flagships using "AI" 

 

 

Just out of curiosity how do you think Samsungs gone downhill?  In quality or as a status symbol?

[Guest The Viking]

3 minutes ago, LordTaco42 said:

Just out of curiosity how do you think Samsungs gone downhill?  In quality or as a status symbol?

I'll make it clear, I don't think much of samsung, so no hate/dislike/etc

 

innovation-wise with their S9. It's hard to deny that it's a rebranded S8 with a new SoC (the exynoss version draining your battery faster than the snapdragon too, with 3 hours less than the snapdragon variant) and a better camera. But that's where it's left at, and sold for 850e. You can grab the S8 for 550e right now on promotion, so....

 

And then you have the P20 Pro next to it... call me whatever you want ("fanboy" etc etc) but the P20 Pro is far better and comes with much more features than the S9+. Better camera, better battery, less powerful SoC, sure, but they're all overpowered at this point, and the AI features keeping the phone fast, draining less battery overtime and helping with taking pictures.

 

Samsung's quality seems to be the same as usual, no? They did get out of the whole battery fiasco, so that's pretty impressive, and they were never a status symbol. You don't buy a samsung phone to prove or show off, you buy an iphone for that. Samsung's just the better known-brand?

[TacoSenpai]

Nah I'll agree the unless you are just in the market for an outright new phone the S8 is more than enough for most people.  I don't Samsungs were a status symbol ever either.  I think the build quality got better when they sealed the back off though I'll admit I do prefer the removable battery to replace it though everyone's doing that now.  To be honest when it comes to smartphones Samsungs are all I've ever used and I'm just used to them provided that I've only ever owned 2 smartphones the S3 and now my S8+.

[Egg-Roll]

2 hours ago, The Viking said:

maybe you're looking at the wrong phones. iphone's have always been about status and samsung seems to be going downhill. One brand out there introduced some really interesting stuff in their latest flagships using "AI" 

 

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mate 10, mate 10 pro, p20, p20 pro, mate 10 porsche design, mate rs porsche design, all come with "AI", improving speed of your phone overtime, battery life & photography. That's worth more than a styles.

 

 

I have big hands (not fat, just big) so I do need a stylus at times it makes my life so much easier on a phone. I know about the mates but after my Huawei's screen broke after one fall where others survived (then decided to dial 911 thanks to a little bit of rain, and stupid companies assuming we need a screen on 2 tap emergency call function), I wouldn't really trust them as a new phone esp at the price asked for. Great phones tho.

 

Plus the Mates are still too expensive for even a "AI" phone... Maybe when they decide to put it into $500 phones.

[Commodus]

2 hours ago, XenosTech said:

Can't compare phones and cars... That's an apple to Zebras comparison. I have legit reasons to buy a $1000 phone, doesn't mean I should buy it. That's why they're cheaper alternatives that do exactly the same thing. In the last few years "budget" phones have all the bells and whistles that the flagships have minus the gimmickey stuff they have on flagships these days calling them features.

Er, what?

 

In the cases of both phones and cars, there are only some basic things they do equally well.  Every car will get you from A to B in a reasonably quick timeframe, but that doesn't mean that a beat-up Corolla is just as good at the job as, say, a BMW 3-series.  The higher-powered engine matters.  The added comfort matters.  The in-cabin tech matters.

 

It's the exact same thing with phones.  A $300 phone can make calls, take decent photos, run most apps reasonably well and surf the internet, but a $1,000 phone will do more.  It'll take much better photos.  It'll run all apps well, not just the less demanding ones.  It'll have a higher-quality screen; it'll have more storage.  And it's an unquestionable fact that some people will benefit from and value those advantages.

 

I can see what you're doing, you know.  You've decided that you, and you alone, are the arbiter of what people should want, and you're trying to impose your criteria on others.  I'm sorry, but different people have different needs and desires; it'd be great if you acknowledged that.

[XenosTech]

7 minutes ago, Commodus said:

Er, what?

 

In the cases of both phones and cars, there are only some basic things they do equally well.  Every car will get you from A to B in a reasonably quick timeframe, but that doesn't mean that a beat-up Corolla is just as good at the job as, say, a BMW 3-series.  The higher-powered engine matters.  The added comfort matters.  The in-cabin tech matters.

 

It's the exact same thing with phones.  A $300 phone can make calls, take decent photos, run most apps reasonably well and surf the internet, but a $1,000 phone will do more.  It'll take much better photos.  It'll run all apps well, not just the less demanding ones.  It'll have a higher-quality screen; it'll have more storage.  And it's an unquestionable fact that some people will benefit from and value those advantages.

 

I can see what you're doing, you know.  You've decided that you, and you alone, are the arbiter of what people should want, and you're trying to impose your criteria on others.  I'm sorry, but different people have different needs and desires; it'd be great if you acknowledged that.

You clearly missed the part where I said that the cheaper options have said features minus the gimmickey stuff that they call a feature that's more of an annoyance.

Still can't compare a phone to a car in any dimension. When you pay more for a car 9/10 times you get something of worth for that extra premium, either leather seats, more HP, one of a kind paint job, something that unique and not gimmick like how we have stupid animoji's now as a feature, basically every phone now a days have such good cameras that you really can't tell the difference minus the god awful processing some of them have on the software side.

[Commodus]

2 hours ago, Egg-Roll said:

Maybe they could buy that 10 year old car by buying a cheaper $350 phone over buying the brand new $1000 one. Never thought of that now have you? Blowing $1000 on a phone makes no sense where a computer that costs $1200 can do so much more even a laptop with a SIM card. Sure size, but if you need a phone and computing power a side bag gives little to no inconvenience.

Of course I have.

 

Some people make enough money that it's not an either/or proposition between getting a $1,000 phone and a car.  That's not to disrespect those who can't, and I absolutely agree that a $1K phone is not a wise purchase if money is tight.  Please don't assume that everyone is in the same situation, though.

 

And sorry, but the notion of having a laptop always with you "just in case" is ludicrous.  I'm not going to bring a laptop with me on a night out, and I can't pull it out when I'm in a packed bus or rushing to an important meeting.  I'm certainly not going to take photos with it.  The phone is important precisely because it offers crucial features in a pocketable design, and if I can improve the speed and quality of those features in an appreciable way by spending more money, damn straight I'm going to spend more money.

[Commodus]

3 minutes ago, XenosTech said:

You clearly missed the part where I said that the cheaper options have said features minus the gimmickey stuff that they call a feature that's more of an annoyance.

Still can't compare a phone to a car in any dimension. When you pay more for a car 9/10 times you get something of worth for that extra premium, either leather seats, more HP, one of a kind paint job, something that unique and not gimmick like how we have stupid animoji's now as a feature, basically every phone now a days have such good cameras that you really can't tell the difference minus the god awful processing some of them have on the software side.

No, I saw and understood it.  You're just wrong; you insist that all high-end phone features are gimmicks because you, personally, don't think you'll gain from them.  And again, you're trying to impose your personal tastes on everyone.

 

Let's say I buy an iPhone X over a Moto G6, for example.  If I do, I will get a much better screen.  I will take higher-quality photos.  I will get better performance.  And never mind Animoji (those are gimmicks); the allure of the iPhone X's Face ID system is both getting a larger screen in a compact footprint and, more importantly, not having to touch anything to unlock your phone in a secure way.  You don't have to take gloves off on a cold day, or worry that the fingerprint reader isn't working because your fingers are wet from the rain.  It's not an absolutely vital difference, but it's not a gimmick.

[mr moose]

3 hours ago, Egg-Roll said:

You'd believe a marketing manager? Truth be told just like everywhere it depends on where inside the country we are talking about, most of Japan likely isn't all crazy about tech but I can see Tokyo being bad.

 

Not if he was selling me something, but in a personal conversation about how hard it is to sell a classic product in a market (japan) that sees having the latest model/version product every year as important as which school you attend, then yes, I believe him. 

[79wjd]

58 minutes ago, Commodus said:

No, I saw and understood it.  You're just wrong; you insist that all high-end phone features are gimmicks because you, personally, don't think you'll gain from them.  And again, you're trying to impose your personal tastes on everyone.

 

Let's say I buy an iPhone X over a Moto G6, for example.  If I do, I will get a much better screen.  I will take higher-quality photos.  I will get better performance.  And never mind Animoji (those are gimmicks); the allure of the iPhone X's Face ID system is both getting a larger screen in a compact footprint and, more importantly, not having to touch anything to unlock your phone in a secure way.  You don't have to take gloves off on a cold day, or worry that the fingerprint reader isn't working because your fingers are wet from the rain.  It's not an absolutely vital difference, but it's not a gimmick.

Exactly this. Since iOS 9 and the release of 3D touch, touch id has been clunky imo for the sole reason that I can 3D touch into a message on the lockscreen.... But wait, I have to first unlock my phone causing my finger to be in the wrong place and competely negating that benefit. FaceID solves that issue (touch id embedded everywhere in the screen would be even better). The gestures also help to make navigating even faster since it means my finger isn't in the wrong place to use the phone after unlocking, opening the multitasking pane is faster, and the quick app switcher is also extremely convenient. I had the 6s plus and it was still perfect in every way except one -- it was and always was unwieldy, but that was the price to pay for a bigger screen -- at least until the s8 (which I would've gotten if not for preferring iOS). So is it worth $1000 (technically $600 considering I can sell my 6s plus) to me for those three reasons alone? Absolutely. I spend enough time on my phone and almost always one handed and the X makes it a lot more comfortable. Then on top of that I still get a better screen and better camera which I'm all for, and then a few features which are nice but not super important: a faster SoC, more RAM, wireless charging, better speakers, and a fresh battery.

 

Is it worth the money for everyone? No, of course not. But for plenty of people it is. 

[Egg-Roll]

1 hour ago, Commodus said:

Of course I have.

 

Some people make enough money that it's not an either/or proposition between getting a $1,000 phone and a car.  That's not to disrespect those who can't, and I absolutely agree that a $1K phone is not a wise purchase if money is tight.  Please don't assume that everyone is in the same situation, though.

 

And sorry, but the notion of having a laptop always with you "just in case" is ludicrous.  I'm not going to bring a laptop with me on a night out, and I can't pull it out when I'm in a packed bus or rushing to an important meeting.  I'm certainly not going to take photos with it.  The phone is important precisely because it offers crucial features in a pocketable design, and if I can improve the speed and quality of those features in an appreciable way by spending more money, damn straight I'm going to spend more money.

You don't need to be "poor" or tight to be cheap I actually find more of the wealthy people around me owning very cheap phones where the people who shouldn't own expensive phones actually do... Reverse logic but that's the reality near me.

 

Also I do agree a laptop in case is crazy but the state you need the $1000 phone because of power is equally crazy, unless that phone can make business making powerpoint presentations. My point for a laptop was if you needed the computing power of a top tier phone you likely need a laptop for those times as well, esp a business person.

 

You also just basically jumped off a cliff with the whole "I'm certainly not going to take photos with it", seriously, stating this is actually quite stupid considering even the cheapest phones out there have a 5mp camera.

 

My point is no one needs the overpowered phones that are being offered. If you want one rich poor middle whatever, great, good for you. You want my recommendation? Nothing over $550 CAD, simply because after that you can start buying (new/used) specific equipment for various events. Want a good picture and only care about pictures? Don't buy a iPhone X/S8/S9 but buy a $350-500 phone with a front facing camera with 5mp or better (look at sample shot, avoid grainy pictures,assuming for selfies) and buy either a point and shoot or a DSLR. Cell Phone pictures look great on cell phones, but they don't look all too good on computers, esp with new monitors now offering higher pixel counts.

 

1 hour ago, mr moose said:

Not if he was selling me something, but in a personal conversation about how hard it is to sell a classic product in a market (japan) that sees having the latest model/version product every year as important as which school you attend, then yes, I believe him. 

Still could be trying to sell you something via sympathy But fair enough.

[Guest The Viking]

1 hour ago, Egg-Roll said:

Plus the Mates are still too expensive for even a "AI" phone... Maybe when they decide to put it into $500 phones.

Honor's View10 is <500$. It's a mix between Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro but from Huawei's sub-brand Honor.

 

You don't get the Huawei name or Leica's branding.

[79wjd]

37 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

Want a good picture and only care about pictures? Don't buy a iPhone X/S8/S9 but buy a $350-500 phone with a front facing camera with 5mp or better (look at sample shot, avoid grainy pictures,assuming for selfies) and buy either a point and shoot or a DSLR.

That's such a horrible answer.....I will always have my phone on me, I will rarely ever carry around my DSLR (or even my point and shoot) unless I know specifically that I'm going to need it for something.

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Cell Phone pictures look great on cell phones, but they don't look all too good on computers, esp with new monitors now offering higher pixel counts.

That's also VERY far from the truth. A phone camera can't compete with a DSLR in bad conditions, but it can produce some excellent results in good conditions (not as good, but still very good and still a lot better than a bad camera or a camera that I don't have on hand).

[kokakolia]

I just glanced over this topic again and I'd like to address a few points:

 

- I wouldn't trust a 10 year old Civic priced at $1000 with my own life. Why? Because Hondas are overvalued. So if you see a Honda priced at $1000 then something must be horribly wrong with it. I'd even say that you're lucky if a find a decent 15 year old American car for that money. I am thinking about the bulletproof Ford Crown Victoria. 

- This forum is obsessed with value. Bang for the buck, price/performance...etc. And hardware! But a phone is worth more than the sum of its parts... Since there are numerous great phones around $500 or less, there are most definitely people who will have a knee-jerk reaction to spending more than that on a phone. But $1000 isn't that much money if you have a steady income and manage for finances semi-responsibly. I'd argue that the absolute dumbest thing a person can do is buy a brand new car they can't afford. A $1000 phone seems quite...mild! People spend more than that on motorcycles, sneakers, watches, jewelry, audio equipment and clothes etc...In fact one could make the argument that phones are becoming a status symbol (much like cars and watches) and that the iPhone X isn't as expensive and bespoke as it could be. This leads to my third point:

- For $1000 you'd expect a truly premium user experience. But as Chris Pirillo said (check his YouTube channel), the hardware is overkill but the software experience simply doesn't reflect the high asking price. iOS is full of bugs and doesn't manage notifications intelligently. I would also add that a smartphone is just a screen to me. I just want my apps to work well. I don't care much for the advanced hardware and gizmos (I never use). 

[Kamjam21xx]

5 minutes ago, kokakolia said:

I just glanced over this topic again and I'd like to address a few points:

 

- I wouldn't trust a 10 year old Civic priced at $1000 with my own life. Why? Because Hondas are overvalued.  

Honda civics are extremely reliable, even pre-vtec. A $500 civic can usually be plenty to get you from the east to the west coast and back again. Cheap replacement parts, easy to work on, great handling. 

 

With the exception of having to buy packs of coils instead of individual ones or something like that. 

 

Anyways, im convinced that you dont know what you are talking about. You probably bought a car with an engine that shuts off cylinders, or shuts off at a red light, made from stamped steel.

[79wjd]

9 minutes ago, kokakolia said:

I just glanced over this topic again and I'd like to address a few points:

 

- I wouldn't trust a 10 year old Civic priced at $1000 with my own life. Why? Because Hondas are overvalued. So if you see a Honda priced at $1000 then something must be horribly wrong with it. I'd even say that you're lucky if a find a decent 15 year old American car for that money. I am thinking about the bulletproof Ford Crown Victoria. 

The Honda Civic stuff wasn't about it also being $1000, it was about how there's no point in buying anything more expensive since it does the import things just as well.

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- This forum is obsessed with value. Bang for the buck, price/performance...etc. And hardware! But a phone is worth more than the sum of its parts... Since there are numerous great phones around $500 or less, there are most definitely people who will have a knee-jerk reaction to spending more than that on a phone. But $1000 isn't that much money if you have a steady income and manage for finances semi-responsibly. I'd argue that the absolute dumbest thing a person can do is buy a brand new car they can't afford. A $1000 phone seems quite...mild! People spend more than that on motorcycles, sneakers, watches, jewelry, audio equipment and clothes etc...In fact one could make the argument that phones are becoming a status symbol (much like cars and watches) and that the iPhone X isn't as expensive and bespoke as it could be. This leads to my third point:

The funny part about this right here is that a VERY large proportion of this forum buys hardware that they don't need -- whether it be because they want RGB, a faster cpu/gpu (just in case), a nicer looking case, cleaner cable management, something quieter, etc....But it's okay to overpay there, that's important stuff.

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- For $1000 you'd expect a truly premium user experience. But as Chris Pirillo said (check his YouTube channel), the hardware is overkill but the software experience simply doesn't reflect the high asking price. iOS is full of bugs and doesn't manage notifications intelligently. I would also add that a smartphone is just a screen to me. I just want my apps to work well. I don't care much for the advanced hardware and gizmos (I never use). 

Not everyone runs into the bugs though, I haven't had any issues with iOS 11 other than one or two isolated incidents (over the course of 7 months), that's not to say it's perfect. There are a few things that I dislike -- the way notifications are handled, how control center is at the top right on the X, how you can't put folders in folders, how if you have enough apps to fill one screen then even if everything is in a folder on that screen (and there is plenty of room for apps) it still puts any new downloads on a screen one over, and how way the swiping along the bottom to multitask rearranges apps as you're sliding back and forth between them.

[Egg-Roll]

1 hour ago, djdwosk97 said:

That's such a horrible answer.....I will always have my phone on me, I will rarely ever carry around my DSLR (or even my point and shoot) unless I know specifically that I'm going to need it for something.

 

That's also VERY far from the truth. A phone camera can't compete with a DSLR in bad conditions, but it can produce some excellent results in good conditions (not as good, but still very good and still a lot better than a bad camera or a camera that I don't have on hand).

Not really. If you only take selfies or quick pictures for non important reasons you can save a lot of money and just be inconvenienced for those hand full of times (which you likely would bring said camera anyways). A 5mp or even a 8mp camera for most situations involving a phone are good enough, there is no need to go out and buy a $1000 for simply a better camera.

 

The only time you might regret not buying that fancy new $1000 phone with a awesome camera and couldn't be bothered to bring a P&S is if a truly memorable event was to happen unknowingly, like say you ran into your true love and within the first 5 minutes asking them to marry you and you wanted to have recorded that moment in 4K... If you believe that could happen then sure buy the $1000 phone, but if you live in reality, you don't need more than a normal phone. The difference you save could easily get you a better camera.

 

My phone ($360 CAD) has a little worst quality to my Canon S5 which I literally pointed to the sun  However that could be due to unsteady hands along with what I was taking pictures of, and lighting. Is the S8 better than my S5 (camera)? yes, but not by much... But if you're looking at a the camera point of view, it's not worth buying just for the camera.

 

Below is a picture of 4 images S8(found online some time ago)/Stylo 3(quick pic for text message which is why it's blurry af)/S4/Canon S5. Next to stability issues imo all 3 look very similar to each other.

https://linustechtips.com/main/uploads/monthly_2018_04/image.thumb.png.ed76fc9c9d1453ac615d34363ae98bf6.png

I should also note the S5 was taken threw a glass door...

 

I would also like to point out the A5 has almost equal picture quality as to the S8, and that phone is half the price, and yes out performs my phone too (not by much in real world), tho to be fair the user of the A5 doesn't abuse their phone like I do.

1 hour ago, The Viking said:

Honor's View10 is <500$. It's a mix between Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro but from Huawei's sub-brand Honor.

 

You don't get the Huawei name or Leica's branding.

Currently not in Canada or at least what I've seen (if Bell/Rogers offers it I've not looked), I don't trust Amazon or Newegg sellers. I'll simply wait a few years when others or they put them in cheaper phones, it'll happen eventually.

[abazigal]

3 hours ago, kokakolia said:

This forum is obsessed with value. Bang for the buck, price/performance...etc. And hardware! But a phone is worth more than the sum of its parts... Since there are numerous great phones around $500 or less, there are most definitely people who will have a knee-jerk reaction to spending more than that on a phone. But $1000 isn't that much money if you have a steady income and manage for finances semi-responsibly. I'd argue that the absolute dumbest thing a person can do is buy a brand new car they can't afford. A $1000 phone seems quite...mild! People spend more than that on motorcycles, sneakers, watches, jewelry, audio equipment and clothes etc...In fact one could make the argument that phones are becoming a status symbol (much like cars and watches) and that the iPhone X isn't as expensive and bespoke as it could be. This leads to my third point:

I guess that’s what happens when a community of build-your-own-PC enthusiasts try to evaluate Apple products. I have been seeing it in Linus’ Apple review videos for a while, and a little bit of me just dies inside every time. 

 

That is is why the critics end up getting Apple wrong every time. They don’t understand business in general, and they don’t understand Apple. 

 

To sum it all up, not everything which matters can be measured. Just as not everything which can be measured matters. If people fixate solely on price and specs when evaluating Apple products, then they will miss the plot every time.

 

By the way, Apple’s quarterly earnings call is due next week. I am calling it now - a small 2% increase in year over year sales, a 13% increase in average selling price, and higher revenue (up 15% from the same time last year) on the back of stronger-than-expected sales of the iPhone X (this information is taken from Aboveavalon). In general, Apple is, and will continue, to do just fine. 

 

Anybody wishes to call my bluff?