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[techswede]

1 minute ago, Speedyv said:

A Ghibli is just about the worst car investment ever. Not only is it gonna depreciate like hell, you also look like a cheapo lease that couldn't afford a Ferrari. Who would honestly buy one over the E Class AMG.

Although i am the resident merc fanboy. And i love the E class. but i would quite possibly lean 55% towards the Ghibli over the E class. 

[Speedyv]

4 minutes ago, techswede said:

Although i am the resident merc fanboy. And i love the E class. but i would quite possibly lean 55% towards the Ghibli over the E class. 

I wouldn't go for the Ghibli but I would probably opt for a S6 if I were to spend that much money on a quickly depreciating asset. IIRC the merc comes with a V6. But I haven't heard much positive at all about the Ghibli.

[techswede]

13 minutes ago, Speedyv said:

I wouldn't go for the Ghibli but I would probably opt for a S6 if I were to spend that much money on a quickly depreciating asset. IIRC the merc comes with a V6. But I haven't heard much positive at all about the Ghibli.

I don't see cars as assets. And i couldn't give a piss in the ocean about depreciation. 

The E63 S 4 matic+ is a proper beast. And i absolutely adore it. But there is something about the Ghibli that i just can't put my finger on. 

The styling is just-so. (Although i'm a bit eh on the headlights. But maserati can't do headlights so whatever) 

I do wish it came with a v8 though. But if i could just throw money left and right. My family would have a Ghibli.

Maybe its just my love for the MC12 that gives me rose tinted glasses 

[warmmilk]

23 minutes ago, techswede said:

What's your impression of the P100D? 

It made the acceleration of the GT-R I've been driving all weekend seem tame... it smacks your head on the headrest unless you are concentrating and have it time well, it's honestly easier to just put your head against the headrest before smashing the go pedal. And no joke, it gets a little harder to breath. I'm not saying you'll go into asthma attack mode (well maybe if you actually have asthma), but you definitely feel the difference in the first couple seconds of acceleration. 

 

I did a launch mode launch on the GT-R about 15 mins after driving the Tesla, what felt like too much power all weekend suddenly feels kinda tame.  During the Tesla test drive it felt like it was all in the initial hit, the first couple seconds, and then other fast cars would take it, but going to the GT-R right after proved otherwise.  The Tesla launches harder and it keeps you planted in the seat harder.  

 

In the Tesla, its not just the instant power of electric motors, its also the capability to do a very finely tuned traction control system.  You can put down power right to the edge of traction (where tires make disproportionately the most grip, basically the jump from 95% to 99% is a significantly bigger increase in grip than 4%).  You just don't have the kinda control in an ICE traction control setup, even full race systems.  The GT-R lights up all for wheels for about the first 20 feet, the Tesla just hooks and goes.

 

That being said, I'd take an V8 R8 over both a GT-R and a P100D

here are the 2 cars I drove all weekend  

[techswede]

2 minutes ago, warmmilk said:

It made the acceleration of the GT-R I've been driving all weekend seem tame... it smacks your head on the headrest unless you are concentrating and have it time well, it's honestly easier to just put your head against the headrest before smashing the go pedal. And no joke, it gets a little harder to breath. I'm not saying you'll go into asthma attack mode (well maybe if you actually have asthma), but you definitely feel the difference in the first couple seconds of acceleration. 

 

I did a launch mode launch on the GT-R about 15 mins after driving the Tesla, what felt like too much power all weekend suddenly feels kinda tame.  During the Tesla test drive it felt like it was all in the initial hit, the first couple seconds, and then other fast cars would take it, but going to the GT-R right after proved otherwise.  The Tesla launches harder and it keeps you planted in the seat harder.  

 

In the Tesla, its not just the instant power of electric motors, its also the capability to do a very finely tuned traction control system.  You can put down power right to the edge of traction (where tires make disproportionately the most grip, basically the jump from 95% to 99% is a significantly bigger increase in grip than 4%).  You just don't have the kinda control in an ICE traction control setup, even full race systems.  The GT-R lights up all for wheels for about the first 20 feet, the Tesla just hooks and goes.

 

That being said, I'd take an V8 R8 over both a GT-R and a P100D

here are the 2 cars I drove all weekend  

 

Haha. I'm mildly asthmatic so i'll have to try that out  

But yeah. The finer control over power distribution does make a massive difference in electric cars. 

Excited for the future of electric cars. (Although not tesla. SpaceX yes. Tesla no) 

Yeah i'd probably take the V8 R8 as well. 

But it does seem like you had a pretty eventful weekend  

[terrytek]

26 minutes ago, warmmilk said:

It made the acceleration of the GT-R I've been driving all weekend seem tame... it smacks your head on the headrest unless you are concentrating and have it time well, it's honestly easier to just put your head against the headrest before smashing the go pedal. And no joke, it gets a little harder to breath. I'm not saying you'll go into asthma attack mode (well maybe if you actually have asthma), but you definitely feel the difference in the first couple seconds of acceleration. 

 

I did a launch mode launch on the GT-R about 15 mins after driving the Tesla, what felt like too much power all weekend suddenly feels kinda tame.  During the Tesla test drive it felt like it was all in the initial hit, the first couple seconds, and then other fast cars would take it, but going to the GT-R right after proved otherwise.  The Tesla launches harder and it keeps you planted in the seat harder.  

 

In the Tesla, its not just the instant power of electric motors, its also the capability to do a very finely tuned traction control system.  You can put down power right to the edge of traction (where tires make disproportionately the most grip, basically the jump from 95% to 99% is a significantly bigger increase in grip than 4%).  You just don't have the kinda control in an ICE traction control setup, even full race systems.  The GT-R lights up all for wheels for about the first 20 feet, the Tesla just hooks and goes.

 

That being said, I'd take an V8 R8 over both a GT-R and a P100D

here are the 2 cars I drove all weekend  

beautiful cars, but if bone stock, i'd go r8. if i can tune it up to my preference, i'd go gt-r, even if pretty much everybody has one.

[warmmilk]

32 minutes ago, techswede said:

Haha. I'm mildly asthmatic so i'll have to try that out  

But yeah. The finer control over power distribution does make a massive difference in electric cars. 

Excited for the future of electric cars. (Although not tesla. SpaceX yes. Tesla no) 

Yeah i'd probably take the V8 R8 as well. 

But it does seem like you had a pretty eventful weekend  

why are you not excited about Tesla?

 

and yeah, my weekend was awesome, we took the cars on some twisty roads between SF and Santa Cruz and give them a good workout  

10 minutes ago, terrytek said:

beautiful cars, but if bone stock, i'd go r8. if i can tune it up to my preference, i'd go gt-r, even if pretty much everybody has one.

The GT-R has a tune and a couple other mods.  I just like the way the R8 drives better, its not nearly as fast, in fact I think my Mustang was faster in a straight line.  But I love how it feels when you're pushing it near the limit.

[terrytek]

8 minutes ago, warmmilk said:

why are you not excited about Tesla?

 

and yeah, my weekend was awesome, we took the cars on some twisty roads between SF and Santa Cruz and give them a good workout  

The GT-R has a tune and a couple other mods.  I just like the way the R8 drives better, its not nearly as fast, in fact I think my Mustang was faster in a straight line.  But I love how it feels when you're pushing it near the limit.

wait you were in california a little while ago??

 

either way, i'd want to drive either one, you're so lucky you get to drive some supercars, i'm so jealous.

[techswede]

Just now, warmmilk said:

why are you not excited about Tesla?

 

and yeah, my weekend was awesome, we took the cars on some twisty roads between SF and Santa Cruz and give them a good workout  

I'm excited for what tech Tesla shares with other manufacturers. But i'll still rather buy my first EV from a well established manufacturer. 

And there is a tinge of smugness still in the zero emissions car buyer that gets a Tesla. Not all. But its sort of a prius situation. 

I'd rather have a Merc. Or maybe Rimac. I'd like to see what they come up with. 

SpaceX on the other hand.. Get my arse to Mars. 

 

I bet the R8 was great in the twisties. 

 

[warmmilk]

2 minutes ago, terrytek said:

wait you were in california a little while ago??

 

either way, i'd want to drive either one, you're so lucky you get to drive some supercars, i'm so jealous.

yeah, these 2 belong a couple of my friends that live in the bay area, so I went down to visit them over the weekend.  GT-R is up for sale now I think, he wants something RWD and a stick, I'm pushing him towards a Viper  

[chaozbandit]

6 hours ago, Mister2010 said:

and me over an R34 GTR or a RS260 stagea  

Oops I dropped this

 

5 hours ago, RevoltTrain said:

Plus I honestly think it looks better than a R34 GTR (I know I'll get hate for that from someone)

 

If I can't get a Stagea I really want a R34 4 door

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BMZ07pQhzyd/

This too

 

[techswede]

Someone just drove by outside blasting that "My dick is big" song loud enough for me to hear it clearly through my three glass windows...

[terrytek]

28 minutes ago, warmmilk said:

yeah, these 2 belong a couple of my friends that live in the bay area, so I went down to visit them over the weekend.  GT-R is up for sale now I think, he wants something RWD and a stick, I'm pushing him towards a Viper  

where in the bay do they live? lemme guess, since they're pretty well off, i'll assume san jose?  and as far as rwd and stick, i suggest e39 m5. because why not

[RevoltTrain]

3 hours ago, vinyldash303 said:

Yeah. Found out you can get a rear fog light on those kinda like how Volvo has.

 

You need the rear fog light, the euro tail lights, a pre 2012 build date, and euro headlight switch. Then I think, to program it in with vag com but I don't know for sure.

 

What I do know, is that they're sexy and I want  the one with the v10 in it. 

The V10 models also got all LED headlights. 

I has rear fogs

[warmmilk]

38 minutes ago, terrytek said:

where in the bay do they live? lemme guess, since they're pretty well off, i'll assume san jose?  and as far as rwd and stick, i suggest e39 m5. because why not

one in Castro Valley and the other in San Mateo

 

I don't think thats enough power for him..

[terrytek]

1 hour ago, warmmilk said:

one in Castro Valley and the other in San Mateo

 

I don't think thats enough power for him..

 ok still pretty decen living i can assume.

 

and he can always supercharge it, make over 600hp in some cases with a stage 2 supercharger.

[RatedBlam]

1 hour ago, RevoltTrain said:

I has rear fogs

Wasn't your car an import from Europe? As in eudm model. 

A rear foglight is legally required in a lot of countries here. 

[RevoltTrain]

1 hour ago, RatedBlam said:

Wasn't your car an import from Europe? As in eudm model. 

A rear foglight is legally required in a lot of countries here. 

Not an EUDM model, just was manufactured in Finland and have paperwork about that 

[warmmilk]

1 hour ago, terrytek said:

 ok still pretty decen living i can assume.

 

and he can always supercharge it, make over 600hp in some cases with a stage 2 supercharger.

He'd buy a 335 before an e39 m5

[terrytek]

2 minutes ago, warmmilk said:

He'd buy a 335 before an e39 m5

now i don't approve of your friend if he dislikes the e39 that much. but i shouldn't be too bothered.

[Speedyv]

5 hours ago, techswede said:

I don't see cars as assets. And i couldn't give a piss in the ocean about depreciation. 

The E63 S 4 matic+ is a proper beast. And i absolutely adore it. But there is something about the Ghibli that i just can't put my finger on. 

The styling is just-so. (Although i'm a bit eh on the headlights. But maserati can't do headlights so whatever) 

I do wish it came with a v8 though. But if i could just throw money left and right. My family would have a Ghibli.

Maybe its just my love for the MC12 that gives me rose tinted glasses 

I felt the same way about the old Quattroporte. I feel like Maserati lost some of its sinister character with their new designs. As for depreciation, every car depreciates but the way people switch in and out of cars in the US, people should really pay attention to it more. I'm more interested in not having a car payment and keeping a car for a while. 

[bcredeur97]

1 hour ago, RatedBlam said:

Wasn't your car an import from Europe? As in eudm model. 

A rear foglight is legally required in a lot of countries here. 

My dad's USDM Audi a6 has rear fogs (but interestingly no front fogs) 

 

I think they build all the Audi's in Germany still tho and ship em here. So probably one of those unnecessary but there things

 

I like rear fogs tho... They def help, every few years we'll have a bad fog accident somewhere around here because someone didn't see the person in front and then a pile up ensues 

[warmmilk]

30 minutes ago, terrytek said:

now i don't approve of your friend if he dislikes the e39 that much. but i shouldn't be too bothered.

Not that he doesn't like it, just that he'd rather buy other cars... e39 m5 isn't his dream car like it is yours

[AlwaysFSX]

10 hours ago, techswede said:

In other news. Pulled in to a gas station on the way home. Bye bye $74

Glad I don't have to deal with that for the time being

[Speedyv]

1 hour ago, warmmilk said:

Not that he doesn't like it, just that he'd rather buy other cars... e39 m5 isn't his dream car like it is yours

Z06?