Predictions for 2018 in the Desktop market?

[minervx]

• RAM prices will drop 10%
• SSD prices will drop 30%
• Mini ITX builds become very popular
• Motherboards adopt USB-C and wifi instead of legacy ports
• AMD releases a high clock-speed Ryzen line for gamers
• AMD integrated graphics will help raise its market share
• SFX power supplies will be more than just a near-invisible niche
• Vega will still be mehhh 
• Hard drives live on, but most cases won't have triple drive ways
• And, please, the abolition of the CD disc

[Chalkie]

Just now, minervx said:

And, please, the abolition of the CD disc

This wont happen due to many businesses using it as a CCTV/data media backup.

[SansVarnic]

HDD will not die for at least another 20 yrs.

VGA will never be dropped (it shall live on for another 100yrs lol)

[BubblyCharizard]

5 minutes ago, minervx said:

• RAM prices will drop 10%

umm...back to what it was 2 years ago I hope

[Sfekke]

3 minutes ago, minervx said:

• Hard drives live on, but most cases won't have triple drive ways
• And, please, the abolition of the CD disc

Triple drive, I run 8 DRIVES in my current system!

2 Being SSD's, all the others being HDD's.
I wouldn't be able to live without all of those.

CD's are still common btw.

And I quite like the front 5.25" bays.
Allows fan controllers, extra IO like USB/SD.

Or just reading old Mini-DVD movies like I'm currently doing, converting them from .VRO to .MP4.
If they would completely dump all those support my entire Mini-DVD "collection" is now stuck in the nether; GG.

 

6 minutes ago, minervx said:

RAM prices will drop 10%

Also YES PLEASE!

I bought my DDR3 when they where not terribly expensive, even got 32GB's of 1600MHz Corsair LP memory

But when looking to upgrade, I found out that getting the same amount of memory would run me over € 350.
One of the reasons I hold back on upgrading my system for now.

[A Silver]

31 minutes ago, Sfekke said:

 

Also YES PLEASE!

I bought my DDR3 when they where not terribly expensive, even got 32GB's of 1600MHz Corsair LP memory

But when looking to upgrade, I found out that getting the same amount of memory would run me over € 350.
One of the reasons I hold back on upgrading my system for now.

Exactly, I have no need upgrade my CPU at the moment but I did some research anyway and if I did, the new RAM would cost too much and it would not be worth it.

[Ezzy-525]

I'd love a price drop on RAM...seriously need an upgrade.

[minervx]

I never said HDD will die.  Just that most ppl wont need 3 of em

[Bananasplit_00]

48 minutes ago, minervx said:

• Motherboards adopt USB-C and wifi instead of legacy ports

So ethernet is legacy now? Wifi is still fucking garbage in a lot of cases, doubt we will see more adoption then we have now. Doubt we will be dropping USB A any time soon, PS/2 might disappear to a greater extent than it already has which would be a bit annoying and sad. 

51 minutes ago, minervx said:

• AMD releases a high clock-speed Ryzen line for gamers
• AMD integrated graphics will help raise its market share

Higher clock speed, not high clock speed. I honestly don't expect more than another 500MHz on top of the 4GHz roof we currently have. Vega + Ryzen APUs should see them gain as will mobile and integrated platforms based on Ryzen. 

54 minutes ago, minervx said:

• And, please, the abolition of the CD disc

Not happening. It's widely used in the corporate space, but it's kinda dead for consumers already. 

56 minutes ago, minervx said:

• SFX power supplies will be more than just a near-invisible niche
• Vega will still be mehhh 
• Hard drives live on, but most cases won't have triple drive ways

Doubt it

Yes

Do most cases have that now? Don't think they do. 

[Dissitesuxba11s]

1 hour ago, minervx said:

And, please, the abolition of the CD disc

For security purposes, government uses CD's to transfer small files, so they won't be going any time soon.

 

1 hour ago, minervx said:

SFX power supplies will be more than just a near-invisible niche

SFX is a form factor and usually only bought if the case requires it. There is a reason why one does not put a mini-ITX motherboard in a full tower case. (Unless you are Paul from Paul's Hardware).

 

[Sfekke]

54 minutes ago, minervx said:

I never said HDD will die.  Just that most ppl wont need 3 of em

Even my brother which is just a hardcore gamer, uses 4.
One for backup, two for games.
And one for documents
While also rocking an 128GB SSD.

The sole reason custom PC's are a thing is customization, you do not need 4 HDD's? Fine.
I do, so do other people.
It feels as if building PC's becomes more like buying an OEM PC.
They all look nice, but under the hood .. most seem to go for the looks over the performance. 

I build PC's because OEM's do not offer what I need, at prices I'm willing to pay.

*Cough* RGB Has to die RN *COUGH*

 

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, minervx said:

• AMD releases a high clock-speed Ryzen line for gamers
• AMD integrated graphics will help raise its market share

The ryzen 7-2700 will have 2.2GHz base clock and a 3.8GHz boost clock. The ryzen 5-2500U will have a 2.0GHz base clock and a 3.6GHz boost clock. I dont see this as a "high clockspeed" launch. And since there is going to be a dGPU within the same die of intel mobile processors, this will also raise AMDs market share.

[Mooshi]

Intel will stagnate again until 2025* when we move on from 6 core being the new quad-core.

[KenjiUmino]

2 hours ago, minervx said:

• And, please, the abolition of the CD disc

whut? no!

1 hour ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

Not happening. It's widely used in the corporate space, but it's kinda dead for consumers already.

what consumers are you talking about? those people who only "consume" horribly compressed streaming stuff. 

 

yeah. those don't need optical drives. they don't even need good headphones.

 

i can agree that storing documents or other data on CD/DVD ROM is outdated. but there is just no real alternative for music or movies

 

i have CDs, i have DVDs, i have BDs. and i need an optical drive so i can use that stuff without internet during a power outage. been there, done that

[Bananasplit_00]

32 minutes ago, KenjiUmino said:

whut? no!

what consumers are you talking about? those people who only "consume" horribly compressed streaming stuff. 

 

yeah. those don't need optical drives. they don't even need good headphones.

 

i can agree that storing documents or other data on CD/DVD ROM is outdated. but there is just no real alternative for music or movies

 

i have CDs, i have DVDs, i have BDs. and i need an optical drive so i can use that stuff without internet during a power outage. been there, done that

ever seen a USB stick? or a AUX cable and a phone/music player(not going to say MP3 player because FLAC and so on is generally what you get those for now)? CD drives have in my experience with them been by far the worst alternative among the ones i have had, i honestly prefer tape over them in a lot of cases just because every single CD disk i have listened to has been aweful quality. Movies we got Blueray, sure DVD is still  a thing i guess and it works pretty good but its outdated. i cant think of a single person around me that actiually uses CDs anymore, none of my friends, parents, family friends, cousins, grandparents... none use CDs. DVDs sure, i have most of my movies on DVD but i rarely watch them or use the player. the only reason i have to still own a burner is that i play NSFU2 on the Toasters old guts sometimes

[cluelessgenius]

what are you basing those predictions on? i think it might be just wishful thinking

4 hours ago, minervx said:

• RAM prices will drop 10%

i dont see a reason why they would

 

4 hours ago, minervx said:

• SSD prices will drop 30%

yeah maybe but not the ones actually worth getting

 

4 hours ago, minervx said:

• Mini ITX builds become very popular
• SFX power supplies will be more than just a near-invisible niche

i think they are as popular as they are gonna get i dont see them being more popular then regular bigger builds

 

4 hours ago, minervx said:

• Motherboards adopt USB-C and wifi instead of legacy ports

basically every better board already has usb-c but the question what do you plug into them there are not enough devices that warrant a type-c port and wifi can stay where it is imo

 

4 hours ago, minervx said:

• AMD releases a high clock-speed Ryzen line for gamers

have i missed some rumor or something?

 

4 hours ago, minervx said:

• AMD integrated graphics will help raise its market share

yeah maybe but who cares its not like its gonna change anything i dont see it being a big deal

 

4 hours ago, minervx said:

• Vega will still be mehhh 

well yeah  its not gonna get magically better performinglets just hope for the next one

 

4 hours ago, minervx said:

• Hard drives live on, but most cases won't have triple drive ways

isnt that kinda the case already with the newer/fancier cases

 

4 hours ago, minervx said:

• And, please, the abolition of the CD disc

again most newer/fancier cases already dont have a 5 1/4" bay so yeah i dont see the need for them either but a lot of people are still oldschool so i dont think next year is gonna be the year where it dies

 

here is my prediction:

 

more monitor nobody can effetivly game on and more drm bullshit and new cool features but the are propriatary as f*ck and we are gonna find out that some huge company is spying on us again and something will either replace this rgb trend or it will evolve into something different and what else ... maybe some huge government is finally stop this bitcoin bullshit 

 

 

 

 

[TheCherryKing]

4 hours ago, SansVarnic said:

HDD will not die for at least another 20 yrs.

VGA will never be dropped (it shall live on for another 100yrs lol)

VGA is quite hard to find on consumer grade motherboards but it will be around forever on servers and workstations.

[Sfekke]

43 minutes ago, cluelessgenius said:

more monitor nobody can effetivly game on and more drm bullshit and new cool features but the are propriatary as f*ck and we are gonna find out that some huge company is spying on us again and something will either replace this rgb trend or it will evolve into something different and what else ... maybe some huge government is finally stop this bitcoin bullshit 

You sir actually know what you are talking about.

@minervrx just made a list wishing what would happen.
And clearly doesn't care about the actual consumer, but just believes what the corporate machine tells us.
#KillRGB #SaveTheHDD #KeepCD #StopSpying

          ^ There, now go spread the word ^

Edited November 7, 2017 by Sfekke
Added missing comma, and made a sentence sound better.

[KenjiUmino]

1 hour ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

ever seen a USB stick? or a AUX cable and a phone/music player

yeah, sure ... i use those a lot when i'm not at home.

 

but ... 

 

 

 

... how do you think i can get these onto my phone, portable player or NAS without any optical drive in my computer?

 

and that collection will only get bigger because i see no reason to quit buying physical media. 

 

i mean ... you can't have this on a lossles flac download, can you

 

 

in fact, you can't have most of the signed CDs and vinyl records i have as a download AT ALL

 

and nothing beats going to a concert and buying the CD right on the spot if you liked the band (along with talking to the band in person.)

 

you see ... i NEED optical drives to stay unless amazon and everyone else (including small ass bands) start including a lossless download with every physical album you purchase.

 

 

 

[minervx]

4 hours ago, Sfekke said:

You sir actually know what you are talking about.

@minervrx just made a list wishing what would happen.
And clearly doesn't care about the actual consumer, but just believes what the corporate machine tells us.
#KillRGB #SaveTheHDD #KeepCD #StopSpying

          ^ There, now go spread the word ^

i made a prediction list that borders fantasy.  and he made a writeup about some weird government "Kinect is spying on our childrens" conspiracy.

[Sfekke]

7 minutes ago, minervx said:

i made a prediction list that borders fantasy.  and he made a writeup about some weird government "Kinect is spying on our childrens" conspiracy.

Kinect?
I do not remember that.
What I do know is that normal Home/Pro W10 spies on users more then previous versions.
There is even evidence of a keylogger (Not sure about that)

MicroSoft wants this data, it is worth a lot to them and advertisers.
If they (MS) get away with this I'm eating my keyboards keycaps, every single last one!

[PeteTeradactyl]

Case Manufacturers FINALLY TAKE A HINT and include USB Type C on all mid-range to high end cases *cough cough* NZXT Cooler Master *cough*

[Sfekke]

3 minutes ago, PeteTeradactyl said:

Case Manufacturers FINALLY TAKE A HINT and include USB Type C on all mid-range to high end cases *cough cough* NZXT Cooler Master *cough*

What about those running an older motherboard or those who do not care about USB-C?
I'd just scrap the USB-C idea.

On phones it does wonders. On the desktop it isn't usefull. 
I'm wondering why they didn't just up the spec on the normal USB A connector & made it backwards compatible.
Since I ain't buying heaps of new USB flashdrives anytime soon  

[Syntaxvgm]

9 hours ago, minervx said:

• RAM prices will drop 10%

They've doubled this year so I hope more then 10 god damn percent. 

9 hours ago, minervx said:

• SSD prices will drop 30%

Back to where they were?

9 hours ago, minervx said:

• Mini ITX builds become very popular

They already are very popular, and the popularity has waned some. They had their hot thing moment and now they are still popular. 

9 hours ago, minervx said:

• Motherboards adopt USB-C and wifi instead of legacy ports

...why the fuck would be want wifi over Ethernet? Wifi can already be added, and the boards that include it, mostly itx boards, have it in a slot you can swap. 

And why the fuck would people want to use fucking dongles on a desktop when there's NO reason to have less ports? And the first USB C boards where shown in as far back CES 2015. What the actual fuck are you talking about? They're already adopted! Go look on newegg! 

9 hours ago, minervx said:

• AMD releases a high clock-speed Ryzen line for gamers

...so Ryzen, but for gamers this time. Got it. You mean pre-overclocked? Gonna see that 220w sweetness again? Cause the 9590 was sosuccessful over the 8350

 

9 hours ago, minervx said:

• AMD integrated graphics will help raise its market share

Wel...yah. AMD's FX line kept it alive before ryzen.

And will continue to do well when refreshed with new arch. 

9 hours ago, minervx said:

• SFX power supplies will be more than just a near-invisible niche

They've been fucking everywhere for a couple of years now, not just silverstone. And it's not like you need some crazy options in a small form factor build.

9 hours ago, minervx said:

• Vega will still be mehhh 

My car also didn't get better with age. 

9 hours ago, minervx said:

• Hard drives live on, but most cases won't have triple drive ways

I mean yah SSD prices are going up soo...

..."triple drive ways" what the fuck

edit Bays? Why would FULL atx cases have only 2 bays? What are they cutting them fore? More SSD bays? When prices are going up? The fuck? I mean yah compact cases have less bays, but why would that be most cases? 

9 hours ago, minervx said:

• And, please, the abolition of the CD disc

The Compact Disc disc is already gone. The driver CDds are only a thing for people that would bitch if they were not there, mainly no internet access. No one needs a Compact Disc disc drive to do 99.95% of shit. Even windows is easier to install on a USB. Even games on disc for PC are now just steam codes on a disc. Or in COD WW2's case a paper insert where the disc goes with a code. 

 

 

What the fuck even is this list/10

 

[vanished]

9 hours ago, minervx said:

• Motherboards adopt USB-C and wifi instead of legacy ports

Many already do have wifi, but I would like to see VGA and PCI go away.

 

Do I think it will happen?

 

 

no.

9 hours ago, minervx said:

• And, please, the abolition of the CD disc

I think for all intents and purposes this has already happened.  I mean, some people still use them presumably but they are an extremely rare niche now.  For 99% of people there's no need for them and we've already moved on with no drama.