Intel’s 18 CORE EXTREME EDITION!

[Emily Young]

Intel's new lineup of HEDT CPUs has finally arrived, but are they just a power-hungry reaction to AMD?

 

 

Buy the Core i9 7980XE:
On Amazon: TBD
On Newegg: http://geni.us/UA7b

 

Buy the Core i9 7960X:
On Amazon: TBD
On Newegg: http://geni.us/5Lq9

 

Buy the Core i9 7900X:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/Ap5A5Q
On Newegg: http://geni.us/BjtfQzW

 

Buy the Threadripper 1950X:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/oJLhSO
On Newegg: http://geni.us/CApUc8

 

Buy the ASUS Rampage VI Apex:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/ADuEF
On Newegg: http://geni.us/xcB1uat

Edited September 25, 2017 by GabenJr
Added Newegg links for new i9s

[Daniel644]

guess it's a good thing I haven't gone to bed yet.

[themctipers]

this is how much i care about x299 right now:

-i dont even know how many pins are on the socket

-i don't even know the cpu lineup

[Guest]

When Linus said 3DMark and Unigene Superposition, the chart didn't appear right away

[dfg666]

As expected. Fast and destroys AMD. But not in price.

[Klovnious]

Are you going to overclock it in a later video? Would be fun to see with a custom water cooling setup

[Morgan MLGman]

1 hour ago, dfg666 said:

As expected. Fast and destroys AMD. But not in price.

If a bit more performance for almost 2x the money is "destroying" to you then sure!

[leadeater]

1 hour ago, Morgan MLGman said:

If a bit more performance for almost 2x the money is "destroying" to you then sure!

Weird thing that I didn't expect was in the some of the game tests TR performed better, 7900X was still better but we know that already. Nice to know predictions come true though, more cores more power more heat = lower clocks = lower performance in lower thread workloads.

[Morgan MLGman]

Just now, leadeater said:

Weird thing that I didn't expect was in the some of the game tests TR performed better, 7900X was still better but we know that already. Nice to know predictions come true though, more cores more power more heat = lower clocks = lower performance in lower thread workloads.

Those cases might be a result of the new cache design of Skylake-X chips, similarly to how they perform relatively poor in gaming compared to other CPUs, even to Ryzen.

Though I agree, the HCC parts (18 & 16 core) perform pretty much just as expected considering everything we knew about them before.

 

I'm still waiting for someone to overclock the crap out of the 7980XE on a top-notch X299 motherboard and then measure the power draw

[leadeater]

3 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

I'm still waiting for someone to overclock the crap out of the 7980XE on a top-notch X299 motherboard and then measure the power draw

LTT troll build, 7980XE + 2x Vega 64 + OC everything, can your PSU take it? Lets find out. 

[Morgan MLGman]

Just now, leadeater said:

LTT troll build, 7980XE + 2x Vega 64 + OC everything, can your PSU take it? Lets find out. 

This is actually the best idea for a new video! Though I wonder what motherboard will be required to survive this video (poor VRMs) and how expensive it will be

[Alariel]

Every day the blue paint moves further up Linus' arms, maybe by the time Tech Showdown launches he'll actually look like a smurf, that'd be fun.

[scottyseng]

39 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

I'm still waiting for someone to overclock the crap out of the 7980XE on a top-notch X299 motherboard and then measure the power draw

LN2...but 800W-1000W. lol

 

It's scary on what cinebench score was hit though...

[King_of_Oz]

35 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

This is actually the best idea for a new video! Though I wonder what motherboard will be required to survive this video (poor VRMs) and how expensive it will be

[Princess Luna]

6 hours ago, dfg666 said:

Fast and destroys AMD.

What? the 1950x is extremely close to the i9 7980x in a great deal of workloads, in fact they trade blows so close you can not even say "destroys" it is grammatically wrong.

 

@Morgan MLGman Hardware Unboxed already done a lot of power draw comparisons, OC'ed and Stock.

Spoiler

 

 

[Morgan MLGman]

6 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

What? the 1950x is extremely close to the i9 7980x in a great deal of workloads, in fact they trade blows so close you can not even say "destroys" it is grammatically wrong.

 

@Morgan MLGman Hardware Unboxed already done a lot of power draw comparisons, OC'ed and Stock.

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I posted that exact video in a status update today, but I wonder about more "serious" overclocks like 4,6-4,7GHz and above and how big will the power draw be then

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

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Isn't cooling the biggest issue? Far more than power draw and motherboards? if at 4.1ghz it was already doing close to 80Cº on a custom loop like his, I fear for the barbecue this processor can cause hehe

[PCGuy_5960]

9 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

I posted that exact video in a status update today, but I wonder about more "serious" overclocks like 4,6-4,7GHz and above and how big will the power draw be then

7 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Isn't cooling the biggest issue? Far more than power draw and motherboards? if at 4.1ghz it was already doing close to 80Cº on a custom loop like his, I fear for the barbecue this processor can cause hehe

7980XE@4.6GHz. 

https://www.kitguru.net/components/leo-waldock/intel-core-i9-7980xe-extreme-edition-18-cores-of-overclocked-cpu-madness/

Power Consumption:

Spoiler

I'm actually surprised, I thought that it would draw way more power than it did 

Temps (with a 240mm AiO):

Spoiler

 

[DildorTheDecent]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

 

Temp pic that actually works lol

[DildorTheDecent]

2 hours ago, scottyseng said:

LN2...but 800W-1000W. lol

 

It's scary on what cinebench score was hit though...

That's nothing new lol. A 3770K at 7GHz would haul 600W+ 

 

Threadripper actually pulls more than a 7980XE in Kitguru's test. There's the real meme. 

[leadeater]

8 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

7980XE@4.6GHz. 

https://www.kitguru.net/components/leo-waldock/intel-core-i9-7980xe-extreme-edition-18-cores-of-overclocked-cpu-madness/

Power Consumption:

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I'm actually surprised, I thought that it would draw way more power than it did 

Temps (with a 240mm AiO):

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Their TR power draw seems quite a bit higher than from other sources.

[Princess Luna]

8 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I'm actually surprised, I thought that it would draw way more power than it did

Well for what is worth this still is Intel, sure the prices are sky high, the platform was rushed and every thing, the TR 1950x still makes plenty more sense for a great number of user cases etc...

 

But Intel would never get to the point of having the most expensive CPU in the market not being the best available... From what I saw from all the benchmarks I do feel that as we previously talked about the i9 7860x does offer the best performance in the end of the day as it has better balance between single and multi threaded raw numbers while we definitely seen a lot of software side bottlenecking making all 18 cores too much even if you try.

 

@done12many2 Which of the 2 is going to be?

[Moress]

600+ watts with a good OC. Can even high end Mobos handle that? How much power can 2x8pin EPS cables supply safely? Not to mention VRMs

[done12many2]

25 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Their TR power draw seems quite a bit higher than from other sources.

 

pcper and other reviewers as well pegged power consumption at stock clocks all about the same.

 

OC and shit goes right out the window, but so does that return.  

 

[done12many2]

43 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Well for what is worth this still is Intel, sure the prices are sky high, the platform was rushed and every thing, the TR 1950x still makes plenty more sense for a great number of user cases etc...

 

But Intel would never get to the point of having the most expensive CPU in the market not being the best available... From what I saw from all the benchmarks I do feel that as we previously talked about the i9 7860x does offer the best performance in the end of the day as it has better balance between single and multi threaded raw numbers while we definitely seen a lot of software side bottlenecking making all 18 cores too much even if you try.

 

@done12many2 Which of the 2 is going to be?

 

I'm going with the 7980XE myself.  It has the same single-threaded performance as any of the other 10-16c parts.  The multi-threading is higher than what's seen in most reviews simply because it's running at suck a low stock clock, which you know I don't do and some software can't take advantage of the additional cores yet.

 

On a separate, but fun note.  Anyone who says that these chips aren't usable under a serious load while overclocked doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about.  They will require big boy cooling solutions when pushed hard, but they can do some amazing things when you prep them right.

 

@Moress Some friends and I were having fun with my 7920X and LinX MLK with AVX-512 in fore bore.  At 4.2 GHz the 7920X cranked out 984 GFlops.  It did draw a shitload of power (~600w CPU alone / 680w + from the wall) and was definitely warm (88c) on hottest core, but the amount of work it was producing is pretty sick!  Delidded, I imagine that it could have cranked out 4.3 GHz and over 1000 GFlops while remaining in the 70's.   That's probably the heaviest load that any of these chips will see.