Intel’s 18 CORE EXTREME EDITION!

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

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That does sounds all exciting, I did think you'd settle for the 7960x to be honest, the 7980xe is more than what our virtuality needs

 

Let me see what your power house can do once complete, if all goes well I can't wait to have my i7 8700k at hand this next month to show off as well some single thread goodies :3

[Moress]

15 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

Some friends and I were having fun with my 7920X and LinX MLK with AVX-512 in fore bore.  At 4.2 GHz the 7920X cranked out 984 GFlops.  It did draw a shitload of power (~600w CPU alone / 680w + from the wall) and was definitely warm (88c) on hottest core, but the amount of work it was producing is pretty sick!  Delidded, I imagine that it could have cranked out 4.3 GHz and over 1000 GFlops while remaining in the 70's.   That's probably the heaviest load that any of these chips will see.

Nearly 700w is absolute insanity. Although its cool to see actual enthusiast parts coming back. (Thanks AMD!)

[done12many2]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

That does sounds all exciting, I did think you'd settle for the 7960x to be honest, the 7980xe is more than what our virtuality needs

 

I'm a big fan of more cores, but I'm a bigger fan of more stronger cores. 

 

Intel's newer SpeedShift is night and day better than the old Speedstep.  Newer Intel processors can go from idle to max speed and can skip scaling steps along the way, which is something that Speedstep lacked.  This is to say that a newer Intel chip that is taking advantage of power saving modes and running cooler at idle can ramp up to full speed WAY faster than older Intel chips.  This alone makes the general feel of the chip as it relates to user interface that much better.  SpeedShift is so fast that most monitoring software don't poll fast enough for you to see it happen.  

 

Higher IPC combined with things like SpeedShift make the stock 7920X feel like a much snappier processor compared to my overclocked 5960x when doing light tasks within Windows.  Sure, the stock 7920x will destroy my overclocked 5960x in any multi-threaded task, but it's what happens when it's not using all the cores that's even more impressive.

 

We like to look at all the big numbers when comparing chips, but sometimes it's the smaller refinements that you come to appreciate the most when you actually start using them.

 

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Let me see what your power house can do once complete, if all goes well I can't wait to have my i7 8700k at hand this next month to show off as well some single thread goodies :3

 

I have a feeling that you're going to love that 8700k.  I'm thinking about replacing my 7700k with one myself.  We'll see.   I'm looking forward to seeing your results.

[leadeater]

48 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

pcper and other reviewers as well pegged power consumption at stock clocks all about the same.

 

OC and shit goes right out the window, but so does that return.  

Yea I was actually just meaning the TR OC power draw were higher than most others I'd seen. Not that it matters anyway.

[DildorTheDecent]

50 minutes ago, Moress said:

600+ watts with a good OC. Can even high end Mobos handle that?

Yes. High end mobos are designed for the sole purpose for going as fast as possible. Just don't use an MSI board or it'll explode lol.

50 minutes ago, Moress said:

How much power can 2x8pin EPS cables supply safely?

EPS connectors spec is rated for 336W per 8P connector. Reality is that it can easily do much higher. Probably 450W+ per connector. Like the PCI-E "spec" it's more of a guideline for appropriate wire gauges. A great PSU will have no issue with power. And most of the time the CPU will not be pulling whatever the recorded peaks are. 

50 minutes ago, Moress said:

Not to mention VRMs

VRM is fine. Again, a proper motherboard will have zero issues with this processor. The MSI Raider however, will end up exploding. 

[Moress]

52 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

The MSI Raider however, will end up exploding. 

I want to see another burning motherboard video like we saw back with the release of the FX 9590. 

[My_Display_Nmae]

If these new Intel  HEDT CPU (what does HEDT stand for again?) chips generate that much heat and pull that much power that even the wiring get hot to touch because of all the power pouring in, this sounds like an argument, if you're going to try to build a system using these chips, for a total liquid immersion system.

[GrayTech]

Looks like we have another FX9590. Another CPU which appariently needs very high end motherboards.

Seriously I don't know what Intel is currently doing. I would still buy an intel CPU if it is the better choice but Ryzen ways the better choice for me.

[DildorTheDecent]

1 minute ago, GrayTech said:

Looks like we have another FX9590. Another CPU which appariently needs very high end motherboards.

Seriously I don't know what Intel is currently doing. I would still buy an intel CPU if it is the better choice but Ryzen ways the better choice for me.

Except the 7980XE is actually a capable processor unlike the FX 9590. And of course you're getting a big boy board for a big boy processor. 

 

Threadripper isn't any better on the power side either. If anything it's worse for idle and power per core. 

Spoiler

 

[GrayTech]

1 minute ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Except the 7980XE is actually a capable processor unlike the FX 9590. And of course you're getting a big boy board for a big boy processor. 

Yeah, of course. But when Linus said that he didn't want to overclock on his ASUS Prime board, I immediately thought about the FX9590 .

[AnonymousGuy]

5 hours ago, scottyseng said:

LN2...but 800W-1000W. lol

 

It's scary on what cinebench score was hit though...

Doesn't power consumption go down on LN2?

 

What's really going to break shit is direct die chilled water.  We're going to see 1000W plus.

 

Shit my test bench may not have a big enough PSU for this....

 

And my comment on LTT's video is that Linus is a pussy.  "oh no I'm too lazy to overclock".

[Marinatall_Ironside]

11 hours ago, Morgan MLGman said:

This is actually the best idea for a new video! Though I wonder what motherboard will be required to survive this video (poor VRMs) and how expensive it will be

I'll answer that for you so you can 360-no-scope me

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-7980XE 2.6GHz 18-Core Processor  ($2158.92 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake - Floe Riing RGB 360 TT Premium Edition 42.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($215.98 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME EATX LGA2066 Motherboard  ($701.98 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($779.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($479.50 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 2.0TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($593.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 2.0TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($593.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)  ($755.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)  ($755.98 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair - Air 740 ATX Full Tower Case  ($161.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA T2 1600W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($484.80 @ Amazon) 
Total: $7683.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 19:18 EDT-0400

 

 

Of course RGB all the things because why not. Estimated power draw of this bad boy is up at 973 watts at stock speeds, so you'll definitely need the Supernova 1600 T2 for this thing before something catches fire. Sales tax assumes an 8% rate, so you can subtract that from all the parts if you want to.

 

As a side note, did you know that the Pentium II 300 came at USD $1,981, and it came out 6 months after I was born 

Edited September 25, 2017 by JurunceNK

[leadeater]

59 minutes ago, JurunceNK said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-7980XE 2.6GHz 18-Core Processor  ($2158.92 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake - Floe Riing RGB 360 TT Premium Edition 42.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($215.98 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME EATX LGA2066 Motherboard  ($701.98 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($779.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($479.50 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 2.0TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($593.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 2.0TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($593.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)  ($755.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)  ($755.98 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair - Air 740 ATX Full Tower Case  ($161.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA T2 1600W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($484.80 @ Amazon) 
Total: $7683.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 19:18 EDT-0400

Should really put on the list Vega 64 LC edition, I'm sure Linus could get his hands on two of them if he tried .

[Drak3]

8 hours ago, My_Display_Nmae said:

If these new Intel  HEDT CPU (what does HEDT stand for again?) chips generate that much heat and pull that much power that even the wiring get hot to touch because of all the power pouring in, this sounds like an argument, if you're going to try to build a system using these chips, for a total liquid immersion system.

High End DeskTop

 

Also known as the Enthusiast line. Which meant investing time into researching cooling systems, optimizing them, power delivery on boards, the exact spec of PSUs, and reading more material than a regular consumer could comprehend (which honestly, just means they read more than the marketing page and box of the product they buy). It's not for the faint of heart, just like every other enthusiast platform outside of computing.

 

@done12many2 will probably agree with me that HCC Intel chips are beasts that will, metaphorically, rip out your throat if you approach them wrong. And that it's not hard to learn how to approach them, but many people aren't willing to spend the time or money to do so.

 

People like him, and to an extent, me, don't necessarily care about how fast we can go from parts hit doorstep to gaming comfortably. That's not as fun as pushing hardware.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

41 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Should really put on the list Vega 64 LC edition, I'm sure Linus could get his hands on two of them if he tried .

I could have, but that would mean extra 120mm fan spots. The only practical case I can think of if he were to squeeze in two would be a Caselabs case. All of the other cases IMO suck in terms of cooling performance for all of the components in question.

 

Also if he really wanted to instead, he could hit up EKWB for some EK-FC Radeon Vega GPU blocks, and then proceed to put in the time to power mod the GPU using registry hacks to (theoretically) unlock a ~240% maximum Power Target. Now there's an idea

[Ryujin2003]

This was a pretty good video. Kinda followed the expected path of Linus's videos. I do miss the days where he would do the fact stuff, but he would also speculate a bit. You know, use his experience to do a bit more compare and contrast. Yes, it's not a consumer CPU, but it's still interesting to follow.

 

 

And, since I haven't seen anyone else ask..

 

What is up with the picture? The thumbnail makes it look like Linus hasn't washed his hands in years. It's pretty gross.

[leadeater]

18 minutes ago, JurunceNK said:

I could have, but that would mean extra 120mm fan spots. The only practical case I can think of if he were to squeeze in two would be a Caselabs case. All of the other cases IMO suck in terms of cooling performance for all of the components in question.

LD PC-V7 should be able to do it, if not step up to my LD PC-V8. V8's engines are better anyway .

[Drak3]

1 hour ago, leadeater said:

V8's engines

Turbo charged diesel inline 6's are better.

 

1 hour ago, leadeater said:

if not step up to my LD PC-V8.

Do you mean that we need to buy yours specifically, or that you made them?

[OhYou_]

627W?

That's cute.

Skulltrail Love power

[leadeater]

14 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Do you mean that we need to buy yours specifically, or that you made them?

Which ever sounds more impressive and awesome .

 

Wouldn't mind selling mine actually, the PC-V8 Reverse which came out later is better layout for water cooling so I'd rather have that.

[Drak3]

Just now, leadeater said:

Which ever sounds more impressive and awesome

Ah. So -Redacted insult-

 

1 minute ago, leadeater said:

Wouldn't mind selling mine actually, the PC-V8 Reverse which came out later is better layout for water cooling so I'd rather have that.

I'd rather just use a plethora of Corsair HD RGBs and EK Vardars in a push pull, provided that the Vardars can push more air when at full rated speed.

[leadeater]

2 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

I'd rather just use a plethora of Corsair HD RGBs and EK Vardars in a push pull, provided that the Vardars can push more air when at full rated speed.

I use 3x 480mm RADs with all EK Vardar F5-120 (3000 RPM fans), I only went for those since they were the only full black Vardar's at the time and the grey looks ugly AF. Most of the fans aren't actually plugged in and more often than not the system runs passive with all fans disabled.

[Drak3]

Just now, leadeater said:

I use 3x 480mm RADs with all EK Vardar F5-120 (3000 RPM fans), I only went for those since they were the only full black Vardar's at the time and the grey looks ugly AF. Most of the fans aren't actually plugged in and more often than not the system runs passive with all fans disabled.

Since I've validated that there is no performance loss pairing different fans on my H100i V2, even at very different speeds, I've decided that I'll run all my rads like that when I go full custom.

[Morgan MLGman]

8 hours ago, Drak3 said:

And that it's not hard to learn how to approach them, but many people aren't willing to spend the time or money to do so.

That's because it's probably just not worth it in this case Going TR makes you save half of the money you'd spend on getting an i9-7980XE and you lose like ~10-15% of performance (and actually gaining in some instances). Your power bill should also be lower

[jcgruenhage]

Could someone tell me what the song playing around the fourth minute is?