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Intel announces 8th gen Kaby Lake refresh for mobile. Desktop in fall

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So no i7 8700k at all yet? damn sold my 3970x for nothing :/ Might as well keep up with this 6700 all the way to Ice Lake then... such a bloody waste.

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Damn. I was expecting this event to contain nothing of value to me, and you know what? I was wrong.

Intel's 6-core desktop CPUs are meaningless to me, I already got a 1700X, but 4-core ULV parts? I've hated how companies seem to think that 4-core chips necessitate a dGPU -It's wasted space, heat, power, and cost if you don't use it- But if there's gonna be 4-core ULV chips, even if they still need beefier cooling and more power, we might finally start seeing an actual selection there.

 

I don't think I'm gonna let go of my T450s for a while more, but I might start getting tempted soon.

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So, the U-Series i5 again has the same number of threads and cores as the u-Series i7? I guess we can expect minimal performance difference between them (except for cache-heavy situations where 2MB more make a difference) given that they'll throttle in many situations anyways...

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1 minute ago, Ground said:

So, the U-Series i5 again has the same number of threads and cores as the u-Series i7? I guess we can expect minimal performance difference between them (except for cache-heavy situations where 2MB more make a difference) given that they'll throttle in many situations anyways...

Yeah... I have no idea what Intel is doing with their naming scheme anymore. It seems like they're just abandoning any form or structure and going "well let's give the top couple skus this name and like just Hodge lodge the rest of the skus under our other two names."

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22 minutes ago, Sniperfox47 said:

Yeah... I have no idea what Intel is doing with their naming scheme anymore. It seems like they're just abandoning any form or structure and going "well let's give the top couple skus this name and like just Hodge lodge the rest of the skus under our other two names."

To be fair, it's not like this is anything new for their mobile chips. The 'i9' and 'X' branding got screwed up on desktop, but so far (even though it could change very soon), they seem to be keeping i3/i5/i7 consistent on the consumer platform.

 

Of course bumping the ULV chips to 4 cores gave them a golden opportunity to make the naming scheme consistent, with the same core/thread counts as with the higher power and desktop chips, but they obviously didn't take it.

"Do as I say, not as I do."

-Because you actually care if it makes sense.

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44 minutes ago, Dash Lambda said:

Damn. I was expecting this event to contain nothing of value to me, and you know what? I was wrong.

Intel's 6-core desktop CPUs are meaningless to me, I already got a 1700X, but 4-core ULV parts? I've hated how companies seem to think that 4-core chips necessitate a dGPU -It's wasted space, heat, power, and cost if you don't use it- But if there's gonna be 4-core ULV chips, even if they still need beefier cooling and more power, we might finally start seeing an actual selection there.

 

I don't think I'm gonna let go of my T450s for a while more, but I might start getting tempted soon.

Why are hexa cores meaningless?i5 8400 will be cheaper than 1600 and unlocked hexa cores will certainly be more useful than extra 2 cores to some people.

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Z370 boards appear to be coming in October, which means that's likely the launch window. Late September/Early October has seemed the timeline for a while, so that's not surprising.

 

"8th Gen" for Intel is a mess. They've got parts on 14nm+, 14nm++ and 10nm processes. 14nm was rough for Intel. 10nm must have cost a lot of execs a lot of hair.

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24 minutes ago, MyName13 said:

Why are hexacores meaningless?

They're meaningless →to me←.

I don't have to explain how, if the rumors are true, they'll be great chips across the board and, even if they're more expensive, they'll challenge Ryzen in a way that the 7th gen just wasn't capable of.

But I got a 1700X. I'm perfectly happy with it, I won't be changing it any time soon, and so I don't care about them.

"Do as I say, not as I do."

-Because you actually care if it makes sense.

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This is disappointing. I was hoping that desktop CPUs would be announced today as well.

 

Well, they better announce them before the end of October, because that's when I decide to stick with Intel or go AMD.

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9 hours ago, porina said:

Intel only stated that other members of the 8th Generation family (which contains Kaby Lake Refresh, Coffee Lake and Cannon Lake)

At this point, why even bother grouping things in "generations"...? 9_9

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8700k is October 5th release.

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I'm intrigued by these. My work laptop has a Kaby Lake Xeon (4c/8t), I think 45w, and it gets astonishingly good battery life with the Quadro deactivated. If that has trickled down to the cheaper SKUs, I might be looking at a new home laptop that doesn't need the processing power.

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22 minutes ago, juri-han said:

didn't intel delay the desktop coffee lake till 2018? 

Sort of. 

 

K SKUs should be out in October with the Z370 board. Non-K SKUs Q1'2018 it seems.

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Let the Core Wars begin ;)

 

 

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1 hour ago, snortingfrogs said:

Let the Core Wars begin ;)

 

 

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