Posted May 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, Okjoek said: Worse value than the RX 550 you think? That card shouldn't cost over 70 dollars as it is IMO. 1050 ~ 560 1050Ti ~ 20% faster than a 1050 1050Ti ~ 100% faster than a 1030 1050 ~ 65% faster than a 1030 ------- 560 ~ 65% faster than a 1030 560 ~ 100% faster than 550 So, a 1030 is roughly 30% faster than a 550 and I'm expecting it to be priced at about the same $80. 6 minutes ago, Droidbot said: this little thing would be enough for CSGO, League, DOTA, WoT, etc. not aaa, but better than nothing If Nvidia sticks to previous generation's pricing, this will be about $80. PSU Tier List | CoC Gaming Build | FreeNAS Server Spoiler i5-4690k || Seidon 240m || GTX780 ACX || MSI Z97s SLI Plus || 8GB 2400mhz || 250GB 840 Evo || 1TB WD Blue || H440 (Black/Blue) || Windows 10 Pro || Dell P2414H & BenQ XL2411Z || Ducky Shine Mini || Logitech G502 Proteus Core Spoiler FreeNAS 9.3 - Stable || Xeon E3 1230v2 || Supermicro X9SCM-F || 32GB Crucial ECC DDR3 || 3x4TB WD Red (JBOD) || SYBA SI-PEX40064 sata controller || Corsair CX500m || NZXT Source 210. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 5 hours ago, djdwosk97 said: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11106/palit-announces-kalmx-passively-cooled-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-graphics-card Thanks for that link, although I can't find it on sale from a reputable retailer though. On second thought, the benchmarks make me a little gun shy. The 1050 ti just doesn't do 60FPS at 1080 in enough titles for me to consider it. Maybe a passive 1060 is the next step then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 9 hours ago, The Benjamins said: its for systems with out a iGPU like xeons, x99, ryzen. My server has integrated graphics on the mobo but its extremely slow. Linux terminal would lag horribly. This usually isnt a problem as remote connection is what i typically use but on the odd occasions where i need direct access it helps immensely with both saving time and sanity. I threw in a 610 and have no regrets. CPU: Intel i7 - 5820k @ 4.5GHz, Cooler: Corsair H80i, Motherboard: MSI X99S Gaming 7, RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB DDR4 2666MHz CL16, GPU: ASUS GTX 980 Strix, Case: Corsair 900D, PSU: Corsair AX860i 860W, Keyboard: Logitech G19, Mouse: Corsair M95, Storage: Intel 730 Series 480GB SSD, WD 1.5TB Black Display: BenQ XL2730Z 2560x1440 144Hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 7 hours ago, djdwosk97 said: Or just get a motherboard with remote access support (e.g. Supermicro's IPMI, HP's ILO, etc...) and just connect to the server from another computer. I doubt I could get that within my current budget. Spoiler The CPU + cooler + board + RAM + boot drive + GPU + case + PSU + OS combined (basically the entire build not counting storage drives) should cost about as much as either a single 6-8 TB "green"/"Archive"/SMR HDD, 500-1TB SATA (WD Blue, Crucial MX300, etc) SSD OR 250-500GB NVMe (Intel 600p, MyDigitalSSD BPX, etc) SSD. As for the storage, I'd like to get as good or better $ per TB and drive quality/reliablity than the links indicate. Also while I'm fine with using older parts (like LGA1155, LGA1366, LGA775, etc), it still has to support SATA, and drives larger than 2 TB. I'd also consider just getting a couple 8TB HGST Deskstar NAS drives (or 10TB Seagate Ironwolf) when they're on sale next Black Friday, copying stuff to them then setting them on a shelf, but then that doesn't help with automatic on-the-fly backups. (Online won't work, as I only have a 7 Mbps up connection, and record a lot of audio & video. My camera can do 4K at 100 Mbps.) Don't really want to say more in this topic/post though, as it's about the GT 1030, not building a NAS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 4 hours ago, djdwosk97 said: 1050 ~ 560 1050Ti ~ 20% faster than a 1050 1050Ti ~ 100% faster than a 1030 1050 ~ 65% faster than a 1030 ------- 560 ~ 65% faster than a 1030 560 ~ 100% faster than 550 So, a 1030 is roughly 30% faster than a 550 and I'm expecting it to be priced at about the same $80. If Nvidia sticks to previous generation's pricing, this will be about $80. The current MSRP for the 1030 & RX 550 are just the first run. The price will come down over time, as they're not going to be making new chips in this space for a LONG time. Eventually they'll be available for 50-60 in new packaging. And, well, the eventually refreshes every 18 months. I'd be really surprised if there's any new hardware in this space before 2020, though a refresh might get a DP 1.5 or HDMI 2.2 (or whatever they name the next update to those protocols). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 12 hours ago, MyName13 said: Why would anyone use these instead of igpus? While benching I found an odd effect when running iGPU, I'd get much lower Cinebench CPU scores than otherwise. Had it on more than one system, but didn't try to diagnose it further and just stuffed any old GPU into those systems. 12 hours ago, Mr.Meerkat said: Would it be faster than the GTX 750 tho? I mean the HD 6200 isn't too far off a 750 so... At 384 cores it is some way off the 750Ti at 640 cores (don't have 750 numbers on hand). Then again, at 35W TDP I wouldn't expect high clocks to compensate, but they might have good OC potential. Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, RTX 4070, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 3070, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, random 1080p + 720p displays. Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 I would get one of these just so I can build an overpowered arcade machine or for a over-the-top-because-why-not HTPC Remember kids, the only difference between screwing around and science is writing it down. - Adam Savage PHOΞNIX Ryzen 5 1600 @ 3.75GHz | Corsair LPX 16Gb DDR4 @ 2933 | MSI B350 Tomahawk | Sapphire RX 480 Nitro+ 8Gb | Intel 535 120Gb | Western Digital WD5000AAKS x2 | Cooler Master HAF XB Evo | Corsair H80 + Corsair SP120 | Cooler Master 120mm AF | Corsair SP120 | Icy Box IB-172SK-B | OCZ CX500W | Acer GF246 24" + AOC <some model> 21.5" | Steelseries Apex 350 | Steelseries Diablo 3 | Steelseries Syberia RAW Prism | Corsair HS-1 | Akai AM-A1 D.VA coming soon™ xoxo Sapphire Acer Aspire 1410 Celeron 743 | 3Gb DDR2-667 | 120Gb HDD | Windows 10 Home x32 Vault Tec Celeron 420 | 2Gb DDR2-667 | Storage pending | Open Media Vault gh0st Asus K50IJ T3100 | 2Gb DDR2-667 | 40Gb HDD | Ubuntu 17.04 Diskord Apple MacBook A1181 Mid-2007 Core2Duo T7400 @2.16GHz | 4Gb DDR2-667 | 120Gb HDD | Windows 10 Pro x32 Firebird//Phoeniix FX-4320 | Gigabyte 990X-Gaming SLI | Asus GTS 450 | 16Gb DDR3-1600 | 2x Intel 535 250Gb | 4x 10Tb Western Digital Red | 600W Segotep custom refurb unit | Windows 10 Pro x64 // offisite backup and dad's PC Saint Olms Apple iPhone 6 16Gb Gold Archon Microsoft Lumia 640 LTE Gulliver Nokia Lumia 1320 Werkfern Nokia Lumia 520 Hydromancer Acer Liquid Z220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 13 hours ago, Okjoek said: My source: https://smallformfactor.net/news/gt1030s-appear-gigabyte-msi " NVIDIA’s first ‘new’ sub **50 cards in an age (since the GT210/610, etc were just rebrands!) have started to appear" " Each card has 384 CUDA cores, 24 TMUs and 8 ROPs. Also identical across the cards is the RAM- 2GBs of DDR5 1750MHz (7000MHz effective), with 56GB/s bandwidth. GPU clock speeds have yet to be announced, But I expect the active cooled variants to be clocked higher than the passive variants, but they are quoted as having a 35W TDP." My opinion: I love these entries into the market because I personally think graphics in most desktop circumstances are best left discrete due to the sheer progress we've made in making them more efficient and cool running. These passive cards get me in the spirit as I've said I want to in the past of creating my own fully passive PC that gets all its air flow from a single high quality fan rather than needing a fan on every component in the case. Given the current terrible value of the RX 550 I hope this competition gives me some more entry-level toys to play with. Hey Linus, are you going to do a video rant on this card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 And sadly, these cards are better than my cards. Main System: Phobos AMD Ryzen 7 2700 (8C/16T), ASRock B450 Steel Legend, 16GB G.SKILL Aegis DDR4 3000MHz, AMD Radeon RX 570 4GB (XFX), 960GB Crucial M500, 2TB Seagate BarraCuda, Windows 10 Pro for Workstations/macOS Catalina Secondary System: York Intel Core i7-2600 (4C/8T), ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3, 16GB GEIL Enhance Corsa DDR3 1600MHz, Zotac GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB, 240GB ADATA Ultimate SU650, Windows 10 Pro for Workstations Older File Server: Yet to be named Intel Pentium 4 HT (1C/2T), Intel D865GBF, 3GB DDR 400MHz, ATI Radeon HD 4650 1GB (HIS), 80GB WD Caviar, 320GB Hitachi Deskstar, Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows Server 2003 R2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 16 hours ago, The Benjamins said: why would it? So you don't have to use converter for old shit monitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, bigneo said: So you don't have to use converter for old shit monitors ok, but it is 2017 and almost every monitor sold now has HDMI or DVI. it make no sense to have a new card have a big port for a dead video out standard, it is a waste of space. If you only have access to a VGA only monitor then maybe you shouldn't buy a new GPU and get a older used one. why don't we have firewire, serial, printer ports on our PC's? if you want to annoy me, then join my teamspeak server ts.benja.cc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 15 hours ago, djdwosk97 said: Well, someone who's considering a 970 would get a 570/580/1060. Also, you like to have the "newest most efficient hardware", yet you go AMD. mmmmmk. I would like to drive a Porsche, yet I drive an Audi. I'm such a hypocrit... qq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 30 minutes ago, Senzelian said: I would like to drive a Porsche, yet I drive an Audi. I'm such a hypocrit... qq AMD isn't substantially cheaper than Nvidia though. PSU Tier List | CoC Gaming Build | FreeNAS Server Spoiler i5-4690k || Seidon 240m || GTX780 ACX || MSI Z97s SLI Plus || 8GB 2400mhz || 250GB 840 Evo || 1TB WD Blue || H440 (Black/Blue) || Windows 10 Pro || Dell P2414H & BenQ XL2411Z || Ducky Shine Mini || Logitech G502 Proteus Core Spoiler FreeNAS 9.3 - Stable || Xeon E3 1230v2 || Supermicro X9SCM-F || 32GB Crucial ECC DDR3 || 3x4TB WD Red (JBOD) || SYBA SI-PEX40064 sata controller || Corsair CX500m || NZXT Source 210. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 Author It doesn't matter at all for the GT 1030, but I definitely prefer the Polaris reference design with its utilitarian feel than the Pascal series that has too many ugly angles on it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 31 minutes ago, Okjoek said: It doesn't matter at all for the GT 1030, but I definitely prefer the Polaris reference design with its utilitarian feel than the Pascal series that has too many ugly angles on it IMO. I'll take Pascal's reference cooler over AMD's any day. PSU Tier List | CoC Gaming Build | FreeNAS Server Spoiler i5-4690k || Seidon 240m || GTX780 ACX || MSI Z97s SLI Plus || 8GB 2400mhz || 250GB 840 Evo || 1TB WD Blue || H440 (Black/Blue) || Windows 10 Pro || Dell P2414H & BenQ XL2411Z || Ducky Shine Mini || Logitech G502 Proteus Core Spoiler FreeNAS 9.3 - Stable || Xeon E3 1230v2 || Supermicro X9SCM-F || 32GB Crucial ECC DDR3 || 3x4TB WD Red (JBOD) || SYBA SI-PEX40064 sata controller || Corsair CX500m || NZXT Source 210. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 Author 2 hours ago, djdwosk97 said: I'll take Pascal's reference cooler over AMD's any day. Fair enough. Different tastes is all. I just really like the industrial look. As far as the GT 1030s are concerned I feel the Gygabyte passive cooler is the best of the four. As opposed to something like this: Only is best when you have an airflow focused down the channels via a fan. A passive cooler should have something omni-directional like this: So hot air has a higher amount of area in which it can dissipate in. Gigabyte's cooler is the closest to this design of the two passive coolers there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 20 hours ago, Dan Castellaneta said: You really overestimate this as being hard to do at 2160p. I turn the internal rendering resolution up to 6x native. The game itself runs at 30fps (Game Cube) but FRAPS reports 60. 19 hours ago, ivan134 said: I mean, 480 uses less power than a 970. At least at stock. I have a 580 and am using it as an adapter. 17 hours ago, valdyrgramr said: Um, emulation of older systems and streaming from an XBO don't count. Those take no effort to run at a solid 60. Also, you're confusing an OS issue with driver support. I don't have an xBox Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400, GTX 460, 700W PSU. (YouTube link) Main build: Intel Xeon E3 1240 | 16GB Avexir Red | Custom GTX 1050Ti | 1.5TB RAID0 | 500GB RAID0 | 240GB SSD | 240mm AiO | Thermaltake Dragonscale | Corsair CX600 v1 Media Center: Intel i5 3470 | 8GB Corsair XMS3 | GTX 550Ti XLR8 RED | 500GB WD Blue | Stock Intel | Dell 3010 Case | 250W PSU Main Laptop: Gold HP DV7 1127CL | AMD Turion X2 RM-72 | 4GB DDR2 | AMD HD 3200M Graphics | 32GB Hually SSD | 1TB Western Digital Blue Backup Laptop: Intel C2M T7200 | 4GB DDR2 | AMD X1600 Graphics | 160GB Seagate Momentus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 1 minute ago, valdyrgramr said: Then how are you playing all those Halo games? Because Halo CE, Halo 2, and Halo 3 were for PC, as is Halo Online. 4, Reach, and 5 were being streamed over WiFi from my neighbor's house, we did that just for fuck's sake. Being able to stream 60fps over 100 metres is nice, not so much my video card as my wireless adaptor ;_; You wouldn't believe the impedance a 100m Ethernet cable has when it's being used as a USB extender for a wired controller. Main build: Intel Xeon E3 1240 | 16GB Avexir Red | Custom GTX 1050Ti | 1.5TB RAID0 | 500GB RAID0 | 240GB SSD | 240mm AiO | Thermaltake Dragonscale | Corsair CX600 v1 Media Center: Intel i5 3470 | 8GB Corsair XMS3 | GTX 550Ti XLR8 RED | 500GB WD Blue | Stock Intel | Dell 3010 Case | 250W PSU Main Laptop: Gold HP DV7 1127CL | AMD Turion X2 RM-72 | 4GB DDR2 | AMD HD 3200M Graphics | 32GB Hually SSD | 1TB Western Digital Blue Backup Laptop: Intel C2M T7200 | 4GB DDR2 | AMD X1600 Graphics | 160GB Seagate Momentus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 Just now, valdyrgramr said: Halo 3 was never on PC.... Yes, it was. The most annoying thing was the xBox icons instead of keys. Halo Online (El Dewrito) is based off of Halo 3's engine. (Reddit link) Main build: Intel Xeon E3 1240 | 16GB Avexir Red | Custom GTX 1050Ti | 1.5TB RAID0 | 500GB RAID0 | 240GB SSD | 240mm AiO | Thermaltake Dragonscale | Corsair CX600 v1 Media Center: Intel i5 3470 | 8GB Corsair XMS3 | GTX 550Ti XLR8 RED | 500GB WD Blue | Stock Intel | Dell 3010 Case | 250W PSU Main Laptop: Gold HP DV7 1127CL | AMD Turion X2 RM-72 | 4GB DDR2 | AMD HD 3200M Graphics | 32GB Hually SSD | 1TB Western Digital Blue Backup Laptop: Intel C2M T7200 | 4GB DDR2 | AMD X1600 Graphics | 160GB Seagate Momentus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 Just now, valdyrgramr said: That's not Halo 3. Ther'es no campaign. Just because the base it off an engine doesn't mean Halo 3 is for PC. If it was then MS would have officially branded it as such. It's close enough, a lot of the online multiplayer maps from Halo 3 were (are) present. I got maybe 24 fps on the GT 710. Main build: Intel Xeon E3 1240 | 16GB Avexir Red | Custom GTX 1050Ti | 1.5TB RAID0 | 500GB RAID0 | 240GB SSD | 240mm AiO | Thermaltake Dragonscale | Corsair CX600 v1 Media Center: Intel i5 3470 | 8GB Corsair XMS3 | GTX 550Ti XLR8 RED | 500GB WD Blue | Stock Intel | Dell 3010 Case | 250W PSU Main Laptop: Gold HP DV7 1127CL | AMD Turion X2 RM-72 | 4GB DDR2 | AMD HD 3200M Graphics | 32GB Hually SSD | 1TB Western Digital Blue Backup Laptop: Intel C2M T7200 | 4GB DDR2 | AMD X1600 Graphics | 160GB Seagate Momentus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 Author 4 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said: That's not Halo 3. Ther'es no campaign. Just because the base it off an engine doesn't mean Halo 3 is for PC. If it was then MS would have officially branded it as such. I heard there was a project going on named Installation 01 for making a Halo-3 PC variant that even has Microsoft's blessing. EDIT: I used to play Halo CE a ton on PC, but I never followed the series because I wasn't getting an XBOX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 I would like to see the difference between the 1030, 730, and an igpu. CPU i7 8700K ( 5 GHz) RAM G Skill Trident Z 32 GB (3200 MHz) GPU EVGA RTX 2080 XC Ultra Motherboard Asus ROG Strix z370 E Gaming Cooling NZXT Kraken x62 R2 PSU EVGA SuperNova 650 W 80+ Platinum Storage 500 GB Samsung 970 EVO NVME M.2, 1TB Samsung 860 EVO M.2, 1TB Samsung 850 EVO SATA, 1TB Samsung 860 EVO SATA Display Dell QHD 144Hz 27'' Case NZXT H500 Black Keyboard Corsair K95 RGB Platinum Mouse Logitech G900 Operating System Windows 10 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 Author 5 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said: That's going to cause a lot of copyright issues. https://installation01.org/about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 12, 2017 23 minutes ago, H0R53 said: Yes, it was. The most annoying thing was the xBox icons instead of keys. Halo Online (El Dewrito) is based off of Halo 3's engine. (Reddit link) Halo 3 was never on PC CPU i7 6700 Cooling Cryorig H7 Motherboard MSI H110i Pro AC RAM Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB DDR4 2133 GPU Pulse RX 5700 XT Case Fractal Design Define Mini C Storage Trascend SSD370S 256GB + WD Black 320GB + Sandisk Ultra II 480GB + WD Blue 1TB PSU EVGA GS 550 Display Nixeus Vue24B FreeSync 144 Hz Monitor (VESA mounted) Keyboard Aorus K3 Mechanical Keyboard Mouse Logitech G402 OS Windows 10 Home 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 13, 2017 Author Darn. was hoping this would get a mention in the WAN show. Linus hates budget GPUs CONFIRMED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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