nVIDIA GT 1030 pictures from MSI & Gigabyte

[79wjd]

9 minutes ago, PianoPlayer88Key said:

I've been thinking of building a NAS, and I'd probably get one of these, or a GT 710.  Although I've seen server boards with built-in VGA ports, I don't have a display with VGA in, just HDMI and DisplayPort.  AFAIK adapters that do VGA out to HDMI/DP in aren't cheap, and I don't want to get a second VGA monitor, so for that use case getting a discrete low-end GPU with HDMI/DP built in would be a must.

Or just get a motherboard with remote access support (e.g. Supermicro's IPMI, HP's ILO, etc...) and just connect to the server from another computer. 

[Guest Darth Revan]

2 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

He didn't missed any point. You must have missed his point about low end video cards.

No, you missed the point just like Linus and Luke did.

The people who buy these low end cards don't buy them for performance.

They buy them because they just want something to display an image on their monitor. They don't care about gaming or how many frames per second it gets in whatever title.

They just want a way to use their PC. The people who fall in this category either have old machines that either don't have an integrated GPU or it broke (including if they had a dedicated card and it broke) or they're getting a machine now, second hand or new that doesn't have an integrated GPU.

So they just need something to be able to connect their display to the PC.

Of course there's the exception that someone is actually going to buy them for gaming because either they don't know or someone informed them that this low end stuff is more than enough.

 

Linus and Luke never even thought about these things and just assumed everyone buying video cards are only interested in playing games, so they focused on that and showed some benchmarks to show how pathetic low end stuff performs in games without realizing that's not the point of these cards.

 

 

[Dabombinable]

1 hour ago, H0R53 said:

It trashes performance in general.

 

Windows 10 was made by Microsoft after Bill Gates retired. Therefore, it was made by the devil.

 

Bill Gates was still in active management when W7 was released. Just like when Jobs was still at apple, things were acceptable there. He's gone, and now everything is shit.

Explain then why modded Skyrim runs a shitload smoother after I recently updated Windows 7 Pro x64 to 10 (which got hit by the anti-beacon bat)

[Bleedingyamato]

3 hours ago, Energycore said:

At 384 CUDA cores it should be around half the performance of a 1050 which is still quite ahead of the latest Intel iGPU and as for AMD, they haven't announced their APUs yet.

Are iGPUs really that terrible?  Ouch Intel.  lol

 

What's the point of these vs at least a 1050 or 1050 ti?

[Bleedingyamato]

4 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Explain then why modded Skyrim runs a shitload smoother after I recently updated Windows 7 Pro x64 to 10 (which got hit by the anti-beacon bat)

What's anti-beacon?  

[NumLock21]

Just now, Darth Revan said:

No, you missed the point just like Linus and Luke did.

The people who buy these low end cards don't buy them for performance.

They buy them because they just want something to display an image on their monitor. They don't care about gaming or how many frames per second it gets in whatever title.

They just want a way to use their PC. The people who fall in this category either have old machines that either don't have an integrated GPU or it broke (including if they had a dedicated card and it broke) or they're getting a machine now, second hand or new that doesn't have an integrated GPU.

So they just need something to be able to connect their display to the PC.

Of course there's the exception that someone is actually going to buy them for gaming because either they don't know or someone informed them that this low end stuff is more than enough.

 

Linus and Luke never even thought about these things and just assumed everyone buying video cards are only interested in playing games, so they focused on that and showed some benchmarks to show how pathetic low end stuff performs in games without realizing that's not the point of these cards.

No you missed the point and it all comes down to cost.

They don't have any issue with those who buys low end cards for basic use when it cost less than $30-50 dollars. But these cards cost like $80 to $100 dollars and they are crap in terms of gaming performance and overkill for basic use. The user can spent a bit more and get a proper entry level gaming card that offers better specs.

 

Video cards for basic use, $30-$50, okay that's fine

Video card for basic use, $80-$100, not okay, wasting too much on it and yet crap for games

Proper entry level gaming card $150-$200

[Dabombinable]

1 minute ago, Bleedingyamato said:

What's anti-beacon?  

Spybot Anti-Beacon, its a free tool to disabled the tracking and telemetry BS in Windows 10.

[elkenrod]

They need to figure out how to passively cool their XX50 series of cards, then they would have something compelling.

[79wjd]

6 minutes ago, Bleedingyamato said:

Are iGPUs really that terrible?  Ouch Intel.  lol

 

What's the point of these vs at least a 1050 or 1050 ti?

iirc HD 630 is a bit ahead of AMD's 7860k.

 

They're cheaper $80~ and consume less power. Although even $80 is a lot considering they should really be used for extra monitors/in place of a dead or lack of iGPU.

2 minutes ago, elkenrod said:

They need to figure out how to passively cool their XX50 series of cards, then they would have something compelling.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11106/palit-announces-kalmx-passively-cooled-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-graphics-card

[AntonChigurh]

Just now, Dabombinable said:

Spybot Anti-Beacon, its a free tool to disabled the tracking and telemetry BS in Windows 10.

You can disable that stuff without any third-party applications

[Dabombinable]

1 minute ago, N1ghtshade said:

You can disable that stuff without any third-party applications

Its more time consuming disabling the settings manually than getting Skyrim up and running after I kill my mod setup....

[AntonChigurh]

Just now, Dabombinable said:

Its more time consuming disabling the settings manually than getting Skyrim up and running after I kill my mod setup....

Yeah, I know. I just don't like having unnecessary applications on my PC

[Okjoek]

5 minutes ago, elkenrod said:

They need to figure out how to passively cool their XX50 series of cards, then they would have something compelling.

They have passively cooled GTX 1050 and RX 460, but they're not low-profile sadly. That's an interesting mod idea though. if I could get the right sized heatsinks.

[Guest Darth Revan]

6 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

No you missed the point and it all comes down to cost.

They don't have any issue with those who buys low end cards for basic use when it cost less than $30-50 dollars. But these cards cost like $80 to $100 dollars and they are crap in terms of gaming performance and overkill for basic use. The user can spent a bit more and get a proper entry level gaming card that offers better specs.

 

Video cards for basic use, $30-$50, okay that's fine

Video card for basic use, $80-$100, not okay, wasting too much on it and yet crap for games

Proper entry level gaming card $150-$200

Oh for God sake. Yet again you missed the point and started to sound like Linus and Luke.

It's not about specs and spending a bit more and getting the best for your buck.

It's about, will this card allow me to use my PC? Yes.

That's it.

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, Darth Revan said:

Oh for God sake. Yet again you missed the point and started to sound like Linus and Luke.

It's not about specs and spending a bit more and getting the best for your buck.

It's about, will this card allow me to use my PC? Yes.

That's it.

Yes, but the problem is that something like a GT x10 would be a better choice for most of those people and would be cheaper. 

[NumLock21]

20 minutes ago, Bleedingyamato said:

Are iGPUs really that terrible?  Ouch Intel.  lol

 

Their Iris and Iris Pro are not terrible igpus.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Darth Revan said:

Oh for God sake. Yet again you missed the point and started to sound like Linus and Luke.

It's not about specs and spending a bit more and getting the best for your buck.

It's about, will this card allow me to use my PC? Yes.

That's it.

So a $30 to $50 dollar basic video card will not let you use your PC?!

 

 

[Dabombinable]

2 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Yes, but the problem is that something like a GTx10 would be a better choice for most of those people and would be cheaper. 

Much like my PCX5750 (still amazed that I can run it under Windows 7, let alone my older FX5500 with 2x Pentium III 1GHz)

[dexT]

Just now, NumLock21 said:

 

So a $30 to $50 dollar basic video card will not let you use your PC?!

 

 

How much is this going to be?

[mr moose]

29 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Explain then why modded Skyrim runs a shitload smoother after I recently updated Windows 7 Pro x64 to 10 (which got hit by the anti-beacon bat)

I didn't even notice any performance or running experience changes when I installed anit-beacon.  In fact I forgot that I even did install it.

[Dabombinable]

1 minute ago, mr moose said:

I didn't even notice any performance or running experience changes when I installed anit-beacon.  In fact I forgot that I even did install it.

That'd be because its not aimed at anything that could affect performance. I was just stating that I use anti-beacon with Windows 10.

[mr moose]

1 minute ago, Dabombinable said:

That'd be because its not aimed at anything that could affect performance. I was just stating that I use anti-beacon with Windows 10.

ahh,  I thought there might have been some reported slows like you occasionally see with some antivirus and spyware programs.

[79wjd]

6 minutes ago, dexT said:

How much is this going to be?

Around $80~ would be my guess.

[NumLock21]

1 hour ago, dexT said:

How much is this going to be?

Its main competitor is the AMD RX550 which has a MSRP of $80 dollars. Nvidia might price this around $70 to $80 dollars.

On newegg, most expensive RX550 is $110

[dexT]

Just now, NumLock21 said:

It's main competitor is the AMD RX550 which has a MSRP of $80 dollars. Nvidia might price this around $70 to $80 dollars.

Yuk. Ok I thought it was going to be $30-$50 like the 710 and 730.

[Bleedingyamato]

34 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Spybot Anti-Beacon, its a free tool to disabled the tracking and telemetry BS in Windows 10.

Does that mess up Windows update?

 

32 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

iirc HD 630 is a bit ahead of AMD's 7860k.

That's a rather bad AMD card I assume?

 

15 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Their Iris and Iris Pro are not terrible igpus.

Ok but almost nothing has those.  Most Intel CPUs have the standard Intel iGPUs.