Been out of the game for a while, need advise

[ImNotThere]

Budget (including currency): 2500 gbp±10%

Country: England, UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: escape from tarkov, cyberpunk, final fantasy remakes, horizon forbidden west etc. Most other workloads I do are cpu bound 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

No peripherals needed, I have nice monitors etc already

[Millios]

3 minutes ago, ImNotThere said:

Budget (including currency): 2500 gbp±10%

Country: England, UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: escape from tarkov, cyberpunk, final fantasy remakes, horizon forbidden west etc. Most other workloads I do are cpu bound 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

No peripherals needed, I have nice monitors etc already

Target resolution and Fps? or any other use like 3d modeling streaming etc? Also do you want aesthetics or have any specific case in mind?

[ImNotThere]

1 minute ago, Millios said:

Target resolution and Fps? or any other use like 3d modeling streaming etc? Also do you want aesthetics or have any specific case in mind?

I'd like to aim for 3440x1440, or just 1440p high refresh rate so idek what that is anymore, I'd say 100 fps most of the time, if possible more.

 

I do stream from time to time but assuming the cpu is good enough nowadays it's a non issue?

 

No aesthetic, I've done the rgb stuff to death, bonus points if the case doesn't have a glass panel.

 

Usb c on case would be cool.

[GuiltySpark_]

Is onboard Wifi a requirement? 

[GuiltySpark_]

Quick and dirty, assuming you don't need wifi. One of if not the best air cooling cases on the market and no window at all. Things like storage and the GPU (which for 1440p you really wouldn't benefit from anything faster) can be adjusted. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£319.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£35.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£103.70 @ NeoComputers) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£108.52 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£124.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (£775.00 @ MoreCoCo) 
Case: Fractal Design Torrent Compact ATX Mid Tower Case  (£119.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£109.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1696.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 16:06 BST+0100

[Millios]

29 minutes ago, ImNotThere said:

I'd like to aim for 3440x1440, or just 1440p high refresh rate so idek what that is anymore, I'd say 100 fps most of the time, if possible more.

 

I do stream from time to time but assuming the cpu is good enough nowadays it's a non issue?

 

No aesthetic, I've done the rgb stuff to death, bonus points if the case doesn't have a glass panel.

 

Usb c on case would be cool.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ymkg7R

 

This should be good. Altough under budget it should be able to give ALOT of performance. The case if you want you can chage but i think this one is pretty cool while also having good airflow and much room.
And you can throw a few fans even though it comes with 3 pre installed ones

[ImNotThere]

4 minutes ago, Millios said:

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ymkg7R

 

This should be good. Altough under budget it should be able to give ALOT of performance. The case if you want you can chage but i think this one is pretty cool while also having good airflow and much room.
And you can throw a few fans even though it comes with 3 pre installed ones

I've heard the nh d15 is overpriced for its performance, how does it stack up against a be quiet dark rock 5 pro?

 

Thanks for sticking under budget this looks great

[GuiltySpark_]

2 minutes ago, ImNotThere said:

I've heard the nh d15 is overpriced for its performance, how does it stack up against a be quiet dark rock 5 pro?

Both are absurdly overpriced and companies surviving on name recognition alone. In this world, those that follow this stuff are well aware that Thermalright pretty much has the market beat on offering the same or better performance than those brands for less money. Sometimes considerably less. 

 

I cannot think of a single reason why you'd spend $100+ on an air cooler anymore.

 

Let alone for a 7800x3D which can be adequately cooled by blowing on it with a straw.

[Millios]

Just now, GuiltySpark_ said:

Both are absurdly overpriced and companies surviving on name recognition alone. In this world, those that follow this stuff are well aware that Thermalright pretty much has the market beat on offering the same or better performance than those brands for less money. Sometimes considerably less. 

 

I cannot think of a single reason why you'd spend $100+ on an air cooler anymore.

i mean yeah fair. Although overpriced it should get the job done tho.

[Millios]

3 minutes ago, ImNotThere said:

I've heard the nh d15 is overpriced for its performance, how does it stack up against a be quiet dark rock 5 pro?

 

Thanks for sticking under budget this looks great

No worries. And if you want you can change the cooler for any youd like. Or go for 32gb ram instead of 64 as it would be plenty but some more wont hurt

[ImNotThere]

13 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Both are absurdly overpriced and companies surviving on name recognition alone. In this world, those that follow this stuff are well aware that Thermalright pretty much has the market beat on offering the same or better performance than those brands for less money. Sometimes considerably less. 

 

I cannot think of a single reason why you'd spend $100+ on an air cooler anymore.

 

Let alone for a 7800x3D which can be adequately cooled by blowing on it with a straw.

Any particular thermalright cooler?

[Agall]

15 minutes ago, ImNotThere said:

I've heard the nh d15 is overpriced for its performance, how does it stack up against a be quiet dark rock 5 pro?

 

Thanks for sticking under budget this looks great

It is unless you want to do extreme mods like a direct-die. Otherwise, the sub $50 USD 120mm options are effectively 'just as good'. The offset bracket for AM5 is at least a useful upgrade for the 7800x3D. The CCDs on AM5 are heavily biased towards the lower part of the die, effectively on the edge of the IHS.

[GuiltySpark_]

1 minute ago, ImNotThere said:

Any particular thermalright cooler?

Did you happen to see my build list above? 

 

The current lineup of dual towers, so the Peerless Assassin 120 (and its variants) and the Phantom Spirit 120 (and its variants) are all you'd need today. 

[Agall]

15 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Both are absurdly overpriced and companies surviving on name recognition alone. In this world, those that follow this stuff are well aware that Thermalright pretty much has the market beat on offering the same or better performance than those brands for less money. Sometimes considerably less. 

 

I cannot think of a single reason why you'd spend $100+ on an air cooler anymore.

Recently purchased a Noctua NH-L9x65 and it came with the 7mm offset capable AM5 brackets in the box. Noctua at least retains their status as a company more than willing to product improve, so they can take my money. Definitely not economical for the normal PC part consumer though.

[ImNotThere]

1 minute ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Did you happen to see my build list above? 

 

The current lineup of dual towers, so the Peerless Assassin 120 (and its variants) and the Phantom Spirit 120 (and its variants) are all you'd need today. 

I did not! I have now thank you very much 

[Millios]

4 minutes ago, ImNotThere said:

Any particular thermalright cooler?

other than thermalright you can go for a deepcool like the deepcool AK400

[GuiltySpark_]

1 minute ago, Agall said:

Recently purchased a Noctua NH-L9x65 and it came with the 7mm offset capable AM5 brackets in the box. Noctua at least retains their status as a company more than willing to product improve, so they can take my money. Definitely not economical for the normal PC part consumer though.

I was staunchly in that camp but as time has moved on, I just can't justify it any longer. At least for me. 

[8tg]

21 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

I cannot think of a single reason why you'd spend $100+ on an air cooler anymore.

Pure performance isn't everything to everybody. I use an NHD15 chromax black because it looks cool. I buy whatever big air cooler looks the best.

[brob]

PCPartPicker Part List

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor (£319.00 @ Amazon UK) 

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£35.00 @ Computer Orbit) 

Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (£179.00 @ Computer Orbit) 

Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£108.52 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£153.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Video Card: Asus ProArt OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card (£968.99 @ MoreCoCo) 

Case: Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower Case (£133.97 @ NeoComputers) 

Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£99.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Total: £1998.45

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 16:42 BST+0100

[Millios]

2 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

I was staunchly in that camp but as time has moved on, I just can't justify it any longer. At least for me. 

I mean same goes for nvidia. Unless we are talking the super high ends like 4090s you cant really justify the price. LIke a rx 7900xtx will do far more than a 4080 while costing the same or even less

[Agall]

3 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

I was staunchly in that camp but as time has moved on, I just can't justify it any longer. At least for me. 

Well I bought the cooler to throw it on an i7 4790k or A10 7850k , the 4790k won since I needed to order another fm2+ backplate+mounts for the 7850k anyways.

[Why_Me]

3 hours ago, ImNotThere said:

I'd like to aim for 3440x1440, or just 1440p high refresh rate so idek what that is anymore, I'd say 100 fps most of the time, if possible more.

 

I do stream from time to time but assuming the cpu is good enough nowadays it's a non issue?

 

No aesthetic, I've done the rgb stuff to death, bonus points if the case doesn't have a glass panel.

 

Usb c on case would be cool.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/broadcasting-guide/

 

Glass panels are tough to avoid these days with the better gaming cases. This allows you to use DLSS 3.0. That MSI board down below includes Realtek 4080 audio codec along with PCIe 5.0 for your gpu and SSD.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£344.99 @ Ebuyer) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£59.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Motherboard: *MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£224.99 @ MoreCoCo) 
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£107.29 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: *Lexar NM710 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£112.49 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (£977.99 @ MoreCoCo) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£89.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Power Supply: *Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£139.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  (£108.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Monitor: *Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ3A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor  (£218.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £2384.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 18:58 BST+0100

 

A better look at those components.

 

https://www.asus.com/us/displays-desktops/monitors/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-vg27aq3a/ 

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-Z790-TOMAHAWK-WIFI 

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230491/intel-core-i713700f-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK620-ZERO-DARK-High-Performance-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16124.shtml 

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4080-super-gaming-oc/31.html 

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N408SWF3V2-16GD#kf 

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/lexar-nm710-1-tb/  

 

https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/p/psu/cp-9020250-uk/rme-series-rm1000e-fully-modular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-cp-9020250-uk 

 

Optional dust filter for that case.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/196287124241  

 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/ 

 

[ImNotThere]

12 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/broadcasting-guide/

 

Glass panels are tough to avoid these days with the better gaming cases. This allows you to use DLSS 3.0. That MSI board down below includes Realtek 4080 audio codec along with PCIe 5.0 for your gpu and SSD.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£359.99 @ Ebuyer) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£59.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Motherboard: *MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£224.99 @ MoreCoCo) 
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£107.29 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: *Lexar NM710 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£112.49 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (£977.99 @ MoreCoCo) 
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£89.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Power Supply: *Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£139.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  (£108.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Monitor: *Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ3A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor  (£218.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £2399.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 18:14 BST+0100

 

A better look at those components.

 

https://www.asus.com/us/displays-desktops/monitors/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-vg27aq3a/ 

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-Z790-TOMAHAWK-WIFI 

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230490/intel-core-i713700-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html 

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AK620-ZERO-DARK-High-Performance-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16124.shtml 

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4080-super-gaming-oc/31.html 

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N408SWF3V2-16GD#kf 

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/lexar-nm710-1-tb/  

 

https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/p/psu/cp-9020250-uk/rme-series-rm1000e-fully-modular-low-noise-atx-power-supply-cp-9020250-uk 

 

Optional dust filter for that case.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/196287124241  

 

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/ 

 

 

Ooo, you're the only one to recommend blue over red, is there a compelling reason? 

[Why_Me]

7 minutes ago, ImNotThere said:

Ooo, you're the only one to recommend blue over red, is there a compelling reason? 

Because the 7800x3D is all these posters on here know. I've even seen some of them recommend that cpu for productivity builds. If you plan on streaming while achieving high frame rates then the Intel i7 is the obvious choice.

[Why_Me]

No window case. The 120mm fan goes inside the back of this case for an exhaust fan.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ B&H) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($9.19 @ Amazon) 
Total: $79.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 13:50 EDT-0400

 

USB-C cable for that case. 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fractal-Design-USB-C-10Gpbs-Model/dp/B0B12TL4H5/ 

https://pricespy.co.uk/search?search=fractal design focus 2 usb-c 10gbps cable model d 

 

https://www.arctic.de/us/P12-PWM-PST/ACFAN00120A 

 

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-solid/