Netflix UHD streaming for Pascal based video cards is in the works

[The Sloth]

8 minutes ago, Ithanul said:

You not only one.

I have a player that can stream 4K content.  I doubt that has a GPU like that in it.  (Though, streaming is useless for me with a 20GB cap)

But seriously, I said crap it and bought a player on sell.  Way cheaper than dealing with all the requirements to have the PC run that content.

 

i feel good about getting my parents a PS4 pro and a Switch combo every day, these stupid exclusives are really ruining the core experience. 

[DoctorJohnSmith]

2 minutes ago, zMeul said:

DRM

i know, BUT why is it necessary?

[AshleyAshes]

24 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

There's not a big push for pirated 4k content, in fact a lot of the 1080p rips are really low bitrate as people prefer small files to better quality. 

What's that?  I can't hear you over the sound of 118GiB of Bill Nye Saves The World. :V

 

[Syntaxvgm]

7 minutes ago, zMeul said:

I still have the GTX970 and had issues with HW accelerating UHD content, dunno exactly if it was only 10bit tho

That might be it, idk. Never really done 10 bit content myself, if I get it I usually just convert it to 8 bit to save a bit of space. 

[zMeul]

5 minutes ago, AmazingRez97 said:

i know, BUT why is it necessary?

necessary?!?!

 

it's there to prevent people from copying the "protected" content

[Syntaxvgm]

4 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

What's that?  I can't hear you over the sound of 118GiB of Bill Nye Saves The World. :V

 

Jesus, that's bigger than GTA5

Also that show

 

"That's the right message"

 

I swear when I heard people complaining about that show I thought they were making a big fuss out of nothing...then I saw it. 

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, Syntaxvgm said:

Jesus, that's bigger than GTA5

 

 

 

[Syntaxvgm]

10 minutes ago, AmazingRez97 said:

i know, BUT why is it necessary?

There's no logic here just DRM 

[EunSoo]

5 minutes ago, zMeul said:

necessary?!?!

 

it's there to prevent people from copying the "protected" content

Then why cant I watch Netflix 4k on my Rx 480?

[AshleyAshes]

5 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

Jesus, that's bigger than GTA5

It's pretty typical filesize for a Netflix 4K rip really.  But hard drives are cheap and I have a 4K TV.

[zMeul]

1 minute ago, SCGazelle said:

Then why cant I watch Netflix 4k on my Rx 480?

because

• NetFlix
• MicroSoft
• Intel
• AMD

[EunSoo]

2 minutes ago, zMeul said:

because

• NetFlix
• MicroSoft
• Intel
• AMD

I don't understand

[Zodiark1593]

21 minutes ago, Ithanul said:

You not only one.

I have a player that can stream 4K content.  I doubt that has a GPU like that in it.  (Though, streaming is useless for me with a 20GB cap)

But seriously, I said crap it and bought a player on sell.  Way cheaper than dealing with all the requirements to have the PC run that content.

Could be why the restrictions on PC are so onerous. Studios are probably hesitant to put their content on PC at all. It's likely Microsoft had a great deal of butt kissing to do to convince them their content won't be pirated. And on a PC, the only way to keep encryption keys out of main memory is to employ a TPM type module. 

 

The GM206 duo (GTX 960 /950) have both hdcp 2.2 and full 10 bit HEVC decode, though additional Drm bits may be missing. Or Nvidia is just being a tight wad. I can't be sure which, if either is the truth. 

[Zodiark1593]

41 minutes ago, Ithanul said:

You not only one.

I have a player that can stream 4K content.  I doubt that has a GPU like that in it.  (Though, streaming is useless for me with a 20GB cap)

But seriously, I said crap it and bought a player on sell.  Way cheaper than dealing with all the requirements to have the PC run that content.

Accidental double post... 

[Zodiark1593]

35 minutes ago, zMeul said:

I still have the GTX970 and had issues with HW accelerating UHD content, dunno exactly if it was only 10bit tho

10 bit HEVC results in better quality for a given file size, though tends to be more taxing to decode. My Blu Ray anime rips are encoded this way to reduce banding as well. 

 

1080P with Main10 HEVC taxes both cpu and GPU of my Bay Trail Intel Atom system to the limits, though frame drops are very rare. MPC-HC is quite an excellent bit of software to make use of shaders to help the Atom in lieu of a hardware decoder. 

 

My smartphone (LG G2) also gets a strong workout playing the same files due to also lacking HEVC decode, though interestingly, the Snapdragon 800 fares much better than the Intel Atom. It gets warm, and hits the battery quite hard, but 1080P Main10 works flawlessly. I use Mxplayer in my phone. 

 

Considering I'm running a GTX 960, there's no need to mention how well Nala fares. 

[zMeul]

15 minutes ago, SCGazelle said:

I don't understand

• NetFlix - they decide who and what gets to decode their streams
• MicroSoft - they create and implement DRM into their OS; both them and Intel are heavy and aggressively pushing DRM
• Intel - they create and implement DRM into their HW
• AMD - they aren't getting involved for providing support to their products

[zMeul]

4 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said:

Considering I'm running a GTX 960, there's no need to mention how well Nala fares

Nala ?!

 

GTX960 and GTX950 are the only Maxwell cards to support 10bit HDR HW decoding

[yian88]

27 minutes ago, zMeul said:

DRM

Whats the point of HDCP and DRM when rippers can record the entire screen using all sorts of tools? or if worst comes worst and they cant, they can use a high quality camera to record a 4K screen and record audio separately and then make torrents.

[Zodiark1593]

Just now, zMeul said:

Nala ?!

 

GTX960 and GTX950 are the only Maxwell cards to support 10bit HDR HW decoding

The name I gave my desktop. Anything I build gets it's own name. 

 

You are correct about the aforementioned cards. Other cards within the Maxwell generation support hybrid decode of 8 bit, though to the best of my knowledge, they do not help with 10 bit decode. 

[zMeul]

3 minutes ago, yian88 said:

Whats the point of HDCP and DRM when rippers can record the entire screen using all sorts of tools?

well, they can't

at least in theory, because from what I can see there are already ripped HDCP 2.2 content available - 2160p HDR 10bit movies

[aisle9]

1 hour ago, nerdslayer1 said:

 

 

Perhaps this is NVIDIA's backdoor way of announcing that there will be a 3GB 1050 to compete with the RX 560?

 

Or some PR guy just ran the release that the intern handed him.

[tlink]

2 hours ago, huilun02 said:

All those caveats... just to bust your datacap

lol

datacap? what is that? _{/s just throwing shade}

[Zodiark1593]

9 minutes ago, tlink said:

datacap? what is that? _{/s just throwing shade}

It's those people in the black suits that come in, slaps you in the face, and tells you to go outside for once.

[Ithanul]

2 hours ago, Zodiark1593 said:

Could be why the restrictions on PC are so onerous. Studios are probably hesitant to put their content on PC at all. It's likely Microsoft had a great deal of butt kissing to do to convince them their content won't be pirated. And on a PC, the only way to keep encryption keys out of main memory is to employ a TPM type module. 

 

The GM206 duo (GTX 960 /950) have both hdcp 2.2 and full 10 bit HEVC decode, though additional Drm bits may be missing. Or Nvidia is just being a tight wad. I can't be sure which, if either is the truth. 

Then again, how many actually watch 4K content on a PC?

Heck, most around here still either buying or sticking to 1080P TVs.  (Like no joke, I sold my parents' 1080P six year old TV for 100 bucks)

 

It probably the studios.  They tend to be tight wads with their rights on content.  Don't blame them, they making a killing.

But at the end, the content going to get rip sooner or later.

 

Myself, buying the 4K HDR player and TV came out cheaper.

[Prysin]

2 hours ago, AmazingRez97 said:

is there a reason for nvidia to rrestrict 4k netflix exclusively for pascal? any hope for maxwell or older cards?

O fcourse there is a reason;
A - Pascal has a new media engine

B - to sell more Pascal and Volta cards, DUH