AMD Ryzen 5 1500X and 1600X Review: Intel's Core i5 Lineup is Obsolete Now

[i_build_nanosuits]

3 minutes ago, Natsoup said:

So many baseless assumptions on this thread. Hope it gets locked.

what is it even doing in the news section...

[Natsoup]

1 minute ago, Fonzie92 said:

Yeah, let's lock a thread because people are posting their opinions. Nice logic you got there

People are making up bullshit.

 someone said and r3 is going to sell for $30

 someone said Pentiums are going to be killed off

 

I said baseless assumptions, not opinions. There's a difference.

[Fonzie92]

2 minutes ago, Natsoup said:

People are making up bullshit.

 someone said and r3 is going to sell for $30

 someone said Pentiums are going to be killed off

 

I said baseless assumptions, not opinions. There's a difference.

 

 

I said if the R3 prices could match anywhere near the g4560, it would essentially kill off the Pentium (g4560 pentium). Which is true 

 

R3 going to sell $30? I didn't hear that in this thread

[Natsoup]

1 hour ago, Damascus said:

If AMD continues the price trends the most expensive r3 CPU will cost $90-$110...  Meaning the lowest end will cost about $30-$50  So much more expensive!!!

@Fonzie92

[Fonzie92]

1 minute ago, Natsoup said:

@Fonzie92

I think he forgot to add "more" after $30-50 lol

[The Benjamins]

3 minutes ago, Fonzie92 said:

 

 

I said if the R3 prices could match anywhere near the g4560, it would essentially kill off the Pentium (g4560 pentium). Which is true 

 

R3 going to sell $30? I didn't hear that in this thread

Raven Ridge shouls have parts that compete in the sub $80 area, I see R3 as a i3 competitor mostly.

 

Raven Ridge is 4 Zen cores and 11 Vega CU's at its max. I can see products down the range of 2 Cores and 2-4 CU's.

[Fonzie92]

5 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

Raven Ridge shouls have parts that compete in the sub $80 area, I see R3 as a i3 competitor mostly.

 

Raven Ridge is 4 Zen cores and 11 Vega CU's at its max. I can see products down the range of 2 Cores and 2-4 CU's.

The thing is, the g4560 is extremely underrated and acts just like an i3 (what, 5% less performance in games?). And costs literally 2x less (could be 2.5), than the R3.

 

Raven Ridge is apparently not coming until 2018.. Which by that time, It's probably too late:

 

R3s should be priced around the g4560. They are not going to sell imo

[TidaLWaveZ]

1 hour ago, Spenser1337 said:

Because he has an intel CPU and believes a multi billion dollar corporation cares about him 

Contrary to someone who has an AMD CPU and believes a multi billion dollar corporation cares about them?

 

Spoiler

AMD is a multi-billion dollar coporation and they do not care about you.

 

[79wjd]

13 minutes ago, Fonzie92 said:

R3s should be priced around the g4560. They are not going to sell imo

By that logic i5's wouldn't have been selling this entire time.....but they have been. A hyperthreaded dual core is simply just not as good as a quad core. 

[Scionyde]

Why are we posting reviews from no-name websites that are 2 weeks late at evaluating Ryzen 5? Nothing new here.

[FratStar]

57 minutes ago, Fonzie92 said:

R3 is not a great a value. You're paying almost 2-3x the cost compared to a 45-50$ G4560 that can do 1080p 60fps gaming 

 

Just admit it. R3s will be a disaster and will be overpriced 

R3 isnt even out yet man.

[Ashiella]

1 hour ago, M.Yurizaki said:

The average joe has no real need for 6C/12T anyway, even gamers. Not all of us stream on Twitch or YouTube.

 

Pick the right tool for the job. The tool is only obsolete when it no longer does the job.

I'm not the average joe.

[Phate.exe]

31 minutes ago, Fonzie92 said:

The thing is, the g4560 is extremely underrated and acts just like an i3 (what, 5% less performance in games?). And costs literally 2x less (could be 2.5), than the R3.

 

R3s should be priced around the g4560. They are not going to sell imo

The G4560 is great for what it is, and it pretty much makes the idea of a 2c/4t i3 pretty pointless.  Which is hilarious by itself.

 

For basic 1080p gaming, a G4560 and an RX470 will go a LONG way, especially if you stick to CSGO or Overwatch, but as soon as you need more threads you're hosed.

 

I'm going 1600X because I need more than 6 threads, and it's only like a $50-60 difference between a 1500X and the 1600X.

[Soonercoop]

2 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

how will a locked , 3.5ghz dual core with gimped AVX support beat a quad core chip that is clocked the same or higher , with similar IPC ?

Sure , it'll be cheaper , but that's it.

I think he means price/performance. It's still the best "budget buy" for really low end systems (the majority of systems).

[Coaxialgamer]

35 minutes ago, Soonercoop21 said:

I think he means price/performance. It's still the best "budget buy" for really low end systems (the majority of systems).

I got that. But the pentiums were always great for performance/dollar. They just weren't very fast is all. 

[XenosTech]

The ryzen + vega apu's are supposed to be the pentiums contender not the r3's, those are the direct competiors to the i3's

[goodtofufriday]

For what its worth im on a 9590 and havent seen a need to upgrade. i still play triple A titles on High/Ultra settings with a 3440x1440 resolution. Most recent being Mass Effect Andromeda

[Phate.exe]

21 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

For what its worth im on a 9590 and havent seen a need to upgrade. i still play triple A titles on High/Ultra settings with a 3440x1440 resolution. Most recent being Mass Effect Andromeda

I'm still playing 1080p mostly high settings on a Phenom II 1090T, lol.  Forza Horizon 3 is one that I have to run somewhere between dynamic medium and dynamic high.

 

This machine absolutely still does the job, I just want new stuff because I make more money than I used to.

[MoonSpot]

I donno, the R5 1400 really takes a dive perf wise compared to the other R5s in the AMDs lineup.  I don't believe the R3s will be a good get, or thats what my crystal ball is telling me.  But I don't think i3s are worth anyones time either, unless they simply cannot afford anything else.  Their performance is soo atrocious they're only good for background systems(NAS & home e-mail server type of things). 

Even making grandma a facebook machine with an i3 is a bit of a dick move.  Not right away, but after 2 or 3 months of "updates", its just another POS Pewdur.

[SSL]

i5 vs Ryzen 5 frame times don't look too hot. I'll take smoother framerates any day.

[MoonSpot]

Just now, ONOTech said:

Your grandma must be running some high-end VR games and maybe a couple of virtual machines on the side, because our family computer uses an i3 4150 and has been for months and it works perfectly fine  Does it have an SSD? i3 + SSD feels snappier than an i5 + mechanical HDD combo.

No SSD(yet).  Has Norton.  She particularly likes videos that family members post, and she's a tab fiend.  Ads and weak sauce CPU were her biggest problems.

She may not be a power user, but she's not nearly as daft as her children when it comes to using computers.  I'm not a fan of Norton but she is, and thats that as far as Norton's system impact is concerned.

[Soonercoop]

3 minutes ago, MoonSpot said:

No SSD(yet).  Has Norton.  She particularly likes videos that family members post, and she's a tab fiend.  Ads and weak sauce CPU were her biggest problems.

She may not be a power user, but she's not nearly as daft as her children when it comes to using computers.  I'm not a fan of Norton but she is, and thats that as far as Norton's system impact is concerned.

In my experience non tech oriented people somehow figure out how to slow their systems as much as possible regardless of their system specs. I really don't understand how somebody manages to download so much adware and useless background processes but nonetheless it continues happening. In good hands a pentium or i3 should run non game applications flawlessly. Most users don't even use anything but chrome nowadays

[Mira Yurizaki]

8 minutes ago, Soonercoop21 said:

In my experience non tech oriented people somehow figure out how to slow their systems as much as possible regardless of their system specs. I really don't understand how somebody manages to download so much adware and useless background processes but nonetheless it continues happening. In good hands a pentium or i3 should run non game applications flawlessly. Most users don't even use anything but chrome nowadays

The same reason why people take out 9 year car loans for that sweet $50,000 SUV.

[vanished]

This isn't really news, more just a CPU discussion.  -moved-

[goodtofufriday]

23 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

This isn't really news, more just a CPU discussion.  -moved-

-waits for the people saying you have an intel agenda to appear-