AMD ZEN based server chip, pictured

[Notional]

Too bad consumer ZEN isn't LGA like these server chips. That socket looks badass.

[Bouzoo]

22 minutes ago, Notional said:

Too bad consumer ZEN isn't LGA like these server chips. That socket looks badass.

Yeah, from now on, every MBO ever should say WCCFtech on the socket. 

[Notional]

Just now, Bouzoo said:

Yeah, from now on, every MBO ever should say WCCFTech on the socket. 

That would be the heatshield on the CPU itself, not the socket.. smartbutt 

[mariushm]

They designed the server chip in modules of 8 cores, so they can have 8 , 16 and 32 core processors, with hyperthreading doubling the number of threads.

 

They're also designed in such a way that they plan to put up to 2 such modules on an interposer along with a VEGA light graphics card and some HBM memory and sell this as a workstation / server chip.  Think 16 cores + vega + 16 GB HBM2 on an interposer. 

 

If they get it right, with HSA and HUMA, they could use the 16 GB of HBM2 memory as a level 4 cache memory.

 

... and a bunch of people said 512 MB level 3 cache... it's more like 512 megabit (64MB)  , 8 MB or 16 MB per module, or something like that.

 

The desktop Zen processors are a single 8 core module, with some failed chips repurposed as 4 core chips after disabling non-functioning cores. There are plans to have Zen APUs with Vega and HBM2 memory on interposer (could be pre-run before doing the server cpus which would require larger, more expensive interposers)

 

As far as I know, they still have difficulties with HBM2 memory, especially when it comes to temperature. With stacks of up to 8 dies on top of a controller die, the bottom dies would be much hotter than the top dies so you have different thermal expansion between dies, and the height of the memory chips compared to cpu die height can also cause slight issues (they may have to add filler material/thermal paste/whatever between cpu die and the metal lid on top of the cpu)

 

[Bouzoo]

3 minutes ago, Notional said:

That would be the heatshield on the CPU itself, not the socket.. smartbutt 

Now when I better look at it, yes, it really is on the CPU. On first it looked like it's the socket shield. 

 

Also word of advice, don't google socket shield. 

Edited December 10, 2016 by Bouzoo

[Me1z]

3 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

Now when I better look at it, yes, it really is on the CPU. On first it looked like it's the socket shield. 

 

Also word of advice, don't google socket shield. 

When you said not to google it, you really weren't kidding. I wish I could just erase that whole experience from my brain. 

[TheRandomness]

41 minutes ago, Notional said:

Too bad consumer ZEN isn't LGA like these server chips. That socket looks badass.

If you want a similar representation that you can actually buy for cheap (sometimes) have a look at Socket G34 CPUs and motherboards c:

[iamdarkyoshi]

5 hours ago, Trik'Stari said:

 

Had to be done.

Get the salt!

[Trik'Stari]

40 minutes ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

Get the salt!

WCCF is the CNN/FOX NEWS of the tech world.

[FPSwithaWacomTablet]

9 hours ago, Tataffe said:

No one realizes that's a SandyBridge E5 Xeon?

I am missing out on this, wtf is the joke? PM is appreciated here -_-"

[patrickjp93]

9 hours ago, Sauron said:

512Mb of L3 cache? If that's true it's insane.

It's not accurate.

[goodtofufriday]

3 hours ago, Bouzoo said:

Now when I better look at it, yes, it really is on the CPU. On first it looked like it's the socket shield. 

 

Also word of advice, don't google socket shield. 

LISTEN To This Mans Wisdom

MRW I Did Not Heed His Warning

 

 

[FPSwithaWacomTablet]

3 hours ago, Bouzoo said:

Now when I better look at it, yes, it really is on the CPU. On first it looked like it's the socket shield. 

 

Also word of advice, don't google socket shield. 

Oh right, mine healed with open sockets... Wasn't very pleasant at the time

[it_dont_work]

6 hours ago, FPSwithaWacomTablet said:

Oh right, mine healed with open sockets... Wasn't very pleasant at the time

Yea I looked up the whole process, fascinating reading. Don't want to have one done to me...

[Ryujin2003]

20 hours ago, Festive said:

Poor @patrickjp93, you will never live this one down.

We need to stop encouraging him. Every post he comments gets closed by moderators. We don't want to kill every interesting topic.

[FPSwithaWacomTablet]

17 hours ago, it_dont_work said:

Yea I looked up the whole process, fascinating reading. Don't want to have one done to me...

No I mean mine is still open, but healed

[That Norwegian Guy]

Just checking every day for motherboard promotional material leaks.

 

When you see the first leak of motherboard promo material is when you know a CPU is 1 to 1.5 months away.

[Vode]

On 12/11/2016 at 0:02 AM, Notional said:

That would be the heatshield on the CPU itself, not the socket.. smartbutt 

If you want to sound smart call it a heatspreader.

[Notional]

1 minute ago, Vode said:

If you want to sound smart call it a heatspreader.

It doesn't really spread heat that much though. It's mostly a shield to protect the core, so you don't crack it. But yeah, it's usually called a heatspreader.

[Vode]

3 minutes ago, Notional said:

It doesn't really spread heat that much though. It's mostly a shield to protect the core, so you don't crack it. But yeah, it's usually called a heatspreader.

Let's just agree to not google socket shield ever again. Sent a cold shiver down my spine. :((

[Notional]

Just now, Vode said:

Let's just agree to not google socket shield never again. Sent a cold shiver down my spine. :((

I didn't 

[Vode]

2 minutes ago, Notional said:

I didn't 

Do it and you'll regret it.

[Urishima]

4 minutes ago, Vode said:

Do it and you'll regret it.

Why do I get the feeling that you are really just trying to get people to google it and be extremely disappointed by the results that are not nearly as bad as your posts suggest.

 

Seriously, I don't see how anything bad could come from it.

[Curufinwe_wins]

That die looks way too big. Intel threw 24 cores on socket 2011, which is way smaller than this thing. this is KNL size and let's nother even imagine comparing core counts there.

 

But cool overall.

[Drak3]

39 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

That die looks way too big. Intel threw 24 cores on socket 2011, which is way smaller than this thing. this is KNL size and let's nother even imagine comparing core counts there.

 

But cool overall.

As of right now, AMD's 32c/64t server chip is going to be an MCM design, which takes more room than monolithic dies such as the LGA2011 CPUs