Election time. Who are you voting for?

[BiscuitMassacre]

I am just going to say, if you actually watch CNN and believe it, that really sucks. I almost trust buzzfeed more than CNN.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

42 minutes ago, Praesi said:

There  are always People who are  too lazy to think. Watching  CNN is more easy than read through wikileaks i guess.

Hey, if you ever see an argument, give it my regards.

 

But if I'm going to make predictions like "end of the two party system", "war with Russia" (no, really, I didn't make that up), or that the NSA spying on us depends on who's president, at least I won't start preaching about "thinking". That'd be like Clinton complaining about political dynasties, or Trump demanding political correctness. 

[Praesi]

8 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

Hey, if you ever see an argument, give it my regards.

 

But if I'm going to make predictions like "end of the two party system", "war with Russia" (no, really, I didn't make that up), or that the NSA spying on us depends on who's president, at least I won't start preaching about "thinking". That'd be like Clinton complaining about political dynasties, or Trump demanding political correctness. 

Go and read leaked emails. Proof is all there. Nothing more to say. 

[2FA]

3 hours ago, samcool55 said:

What internet do you mean?

They don't have a internet, they have 2, sort of.

 

The first network is limited to N-Korea itself, it's completely separated from the internet we know, they even go as far as saying building A can have N-korea internet and building B with "normal" internet (the one we use) needs to be X meters away. That's legit how far they go. Yes it has its own class systems, DNS servers, everything.

 

Both internets are not allowed in the same building. There has to be a gap between them.

And normal people iirc can access the N-korea internet with computers in their library. Also the elite of N-Korea that can afford a computer usually also have access to the N-Korea network.

You are confusing an intranet with the internet which there can only be one of.

[SteveGrabowski0]

Holy fuck, Trump just sued Clark County in Nevada for letting people already in line when polling stations officially closed being allowed to early vote. What a piece of shit party, the GOP's entire strategy for winning is to just suppress turnout.

[dizmo]

5 hours ago, Tm_Carbon said:

I would rather not have minimum wage rise. The thing is everyone who earns minimum will end up getting paid more while others who are paid more than minimum won't get extra. Companies then try to compensate for paying their employees more by raising prices of different products/services. The people who earned more now start to earn less because of the prices increasing and people who earn minimum wage don't change at all financially. Minimum wage employees complain that they want a job and the cycle keeps happening. Eventually the economy will crash because no one can afford the basic necessities. 

 

I just don't understand how most people think you should be able to live off minimum wage. Minimum wage jobs are meant for kids in highschool/college to earn a little bit of money (unless the company is ripping you off but thats another issue). Its not meant to support an entire family and for you to buy whatever you want. 

While I can understand why you think that, it's been proven many times over to be the other way around.

Minimum wage increases, those people in turn are able to purchase more. The economy as a whole improves, businesses don't have to raise prices because they're doing more volume which greatly outweighs the added per-employee cost.

 

Are you kidding? People who make minimum wage would love to be able to spend more money. That's a ridiculous thing to think.

By your logic, Australia should have already collapsed, and Seattle and London should be in utter ruin.

 

[Thunderpup]

46 minutes ago, dizmo said:

While I can understand why you think that, it's been proven many times over to be the other way around.

Minimum wage increases, those people in turn are able to purchase more. The economy as a whole improves, businesses don't have to raise prices because they're doing more volume which greatly outweighs the added per-employee cost.

 

You are partially correct. 

It has been proven that there can be an economic benefit toward raising the minimum wage, but you get diminishing returns as the the amount of said raise is increased.

While it is true that price increases aren't as stark after a minimum wage increase as a lot of people make it out to be; it isn't because those business are suddenly pushing more volume.  Americans are very sensitive to prices and always wanting to get the most for our money. This is especially evident in the restaurant business where we get a lot of food for a relatively low price, but at the expense of quality.  So instead of raising prices these businesses offset costs in other manners.  Some of the methods used are layoffs, automation, using immigrant labor, lower product quality etc... 

Lastly while a lot of economist strongly support raising the minimum wage to say $10 an hour most of those same economist oppose raising it to $15.  As that would have a negative impact especially in rural or suburban regions where the cost of living is more tame.  Places like NYC would be ok as it's already expensive to live in those places. 

[Djole123]

I vote for Misha 

 

Spoiler

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[dizmo]

I just found out that you don't get time off work to go vote. Really? That's ridiculous.

[Real_PhillBert]

11 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I just found out that you don't get time off work to go vote. Really? That's ridiculous.

Federally there is no law requiring employers to allow employees time off to work, however, almost every state does have such a law, so in reality, you do get time off to vote. 

 

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/taking-time-off-voting-jury-29708.html

[dizmo]

3 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

Federally there is no law requiring employers to allow employees time off to work, however, almost every state does have such a law, so in reality, you do get time off to vote. 

 

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/taking-time-off-voting-jury-29708.html

Well, that's good to know. I'm surprised how many states don't give that time paid though.

[Real_PhillBert]

10 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Well, that's good to know. I'm surprised how many states don't give that time paid though.

At the risk of sounding like an ass, it's really not your employers responsibility to pay you for doing things non work related. However, I would be very much in support of increased voting hours, perhaps even multiple days, unfortunately the government did not consult me when setting up the regulations.

[Speedyv]

2 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

At the risk of sounding like an ass, it's really not your employers responsibility to pay you for doing things non work related. However, I would be very much in support of increased voting hours, perhaps even multiple days, unfortunately the government did not consult me when setting up the regulations.

I get the feeling they don't consult us about anything really....

[Canada EH]

2 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

At the risk of sounding like an ass, it's really not your employers responsibility to pay you for doing things non work related. However, I would be very much in support of increased voting hours, perhaps even multiple days, unfortunately the government did not consult me when setting up the regulations.

Voting stations are allowing people to enter the line when the poll is closed.

[dizmo]

11 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

At the risk of sounding like an ass, it's really not your employers responsibility to pay you for doing things non work related. However, I would be very much in support of increased voting hours, perhaps even multiple days, unfortunately the government did not consult me when setting up the regulations.

It is if it's legislated

At least they thought of absentee ballots. Being able to do it on your own time is a huge benefit.

In Canada we have absentee ballots as well as 4 days to vote prior to election day.

I'm surprised they don't have something like that down there, since you have 10x the population.

[ThinkWithPortals]

Even though I'm not a US citizen, I don't believe that I would ever be able to fully support Donald Trump. We agree on a few things, but ultimately I just don't think I'd be able to side with that man.

 

My main issue is that both candidates support the death penalty. Sorry guys, but until you abolish the death penalty you're a third world country in my eyes.

[Magikarpdrowned]

3 minutes ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

Even though I'm not a US citizen, I don't believe that I would ever be able to fully support Donald Trump. We agree on a few things, but ultimately I just don't think I'd be able to side with that man.

 

My main issue is that both candidates support the death penalty. Sorry guys, but until you abolish the death penalty you're a third world country in my eyes.

Nerd³?

 

[ThinkWithPortals]

Just now, Magikarpdrowned said:

Nerd³?

What?

[Magikarpdrowned]

Just now, ThinkWithPortals said:

What?

Sorry, just what you said was a pitch-perfect recreation of what he said in that video.

[ThinkWithPortals]

Just now, Magikarpdrowned said:

Sorry, just what you said was a pitch-perfect recreation of what he said in that video.

Brb, looking him up  Sounds like my kind of guy.

[Magikarpdrowned]

1 minute ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

Brb, looking him up  Sounds like my kind of guy.

Reload the page, I attached the video.

[Donut417]

Just got done voting. Took my niece with me so she could see the process. Gotta start them young.  

[ThinkWithPortals]

10 minutes ago, Magikarpdrowned said:

Reload the page, I attached the video.

Wow, that's uncanny. Similar opinions, similar style of comedy - we even have a similar accent. I think I found my spirit animal  

[Canada EH]

What has Hillary accomplished in her time from being first lady, to governor of NY state to whatever she was at the White House with Obama Hussein.

 

9/11 workers health care after 12 yrs. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! After how many cancer cases.

 

Negotiated the toughest sanctions Iran has ever faced.

Negotiated a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.

Which any ole bloke could have done.

 

Oh heres another website.

 

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/carly-fiorina-debate-hillary-clintons-greatest-accomplishment-213157

[Ktk]

Trump would be a favorite if he didn't embrace such a ridiculously racist image. He should have focused on targeting the non-white working class. He had the white working class on lock so early, sticking to that audience for so long is questionable. His last scramble for diversity votes was eyebrow-raising at best. I think he would've even gotten over the sexist image problem. Maybe vice versa too.

Saying stupid things like "build the wall" put his campaign under the waterline to boot.

 

The predictable response was huge minority turnout in NV and FL and the most early votes ever, which favors democrats. Hillary leading Hispanics on exits 65 to 25, business as usual there. If he loses NV+FL, he's cooked. Ignoring everything else, Trump's campaigning strategy set himself up to lose and I'm watching his campaign manager, live, essentially admit this. He needs a sweep, which is optimistic, to say the least. He's going to win Texas, but it might be by the smallest margin ever.

 

I'm genuinely curious on how the alt right is supposed to be attractive to "others". Isn't it fundamentally about making white Americans feel like they belong again? The issue there is that it's frequently achieved at the expense of all the rest. Bringing back tribalism, conservative instinct, old culture. But white American culture is also rooted in systematic racism + sexism. Separating the two cleanly is basically a non-starter. I have friends that support Trump and are civil. But I've seen too many on social media (so as to say it's not the news coloring my views) that simply aren't interested in separating the problems. So the idea of bringing back old culture is reasonably scary for non-white-males. Plus, from the minority's perspective, rich white people control the US already. Though rich and poor white people are a very different group.

 

I must admit most of my news sources aren't pro- alt right though. Anyone have some serious alt right news sources to teach myself, if I'm off base? Is it just Brietbart? Anything more serious? The whole movement makes me think it's punk in a technology-powered age.

 

Clinton flip-flops. I consider that a plus, it makes her more conservative. Minorities who are humming along would rather have politics as usual (under handed corruption and all) than politics working to actively work against them. It appears to be the opposite for working class white Americans who feel disenfranchised, who perceive the system to be working against them, and need to revert back to the past when things were better.

 

Also, why on EARTH did Trump not spend his own money on the campaign 6 months ago? He admits he's very rich. He could've had such better ground support. Donors should be frustrated that Trump didn't have his own skin in the game instead of "bragging" about not spending over 10 grand. Also it would prove that he's not a sellout.

 

A refined redo in 2020 should be EXTREMELY interesting, based on the popularity of Sanders and Trump.