Phill Schiller explains why MacBook Pros don't have a 32GB RAM option

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, Chaos_Sorcerer said:

the 13" models are targeted to idiot consumers who have no idea what they're buying. 

I would not put it that far. I love PCs and Windows, but there is no way I would make a Windows machine my laptop. 

 

Some people just want MacOS and some like the reliability of MacOS (also having an iPhone is certainly incentive to go Mac) 

[AresKrieger]

8 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Don't buy MacBookPro if you are a Pro?

 

Seems legit .

Well their specs (especially this time) are far from what should be considered professional grade

[iamdarkyoshi]

20 minutes ago, rn8686 said:

Macbook "Pro". 

Op, mark solved

[AresKrieger]

3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I would not put it that far. I love PCs and Windows, but there is no way I would make a Windows machine my laptop. 

 

Some people just want MacOS and some like the reliability of MacOS (also having an iPhone is certainly incentive to go Mac) 

It's got a dual core cpu with  I think 8GB of ram and no gpu for ~2 grand, it is a massive rip off even by apple standards

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, AresKrieger said:

it is a massive rip off 

Hey, if you think that more power to you. 

[Chaos_Sorcerer]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

I would not put it that far. I love PCs and Windows, but there is no way I would make a Windows machine my laptop. 

 

Some people just want MacOS and some like the reliability of MacOS (also having an iPhone is certainly incentive to go Mac) 

I know about all of the reliability and the clean look of the OS, but is that really enough to justify for $1500 for a 13" laptop with integrated graphics, an ULV i5, an awful keyboard, and basically no compatibility with anything without adapters? Yeah, the drive speeds are pure insanity, and the trackpad is really nice, but there are so many better Windows alternatives that I find it difficult to drop any money on a Mac. I'm not a content creator, so I see no benefit from using Final Cut or anything. For students, the Dell XPS 13 is a much better option...unless their Dad is Craig Federighi or something. 

[zMeul]

16 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

What was that? DDR4L only consumes 1.05V? Hmmm... if they just used SODIMMs, it'd make them much better. 

current is measured in Amps not Volts

[TheRandomness]

Just now, zMeul said:

current is measured in Amps not Volts

I just put what I got when I googled 'DDR4L Power consumption'

I think a measure in watts would've been better to use. 

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, Chaos_Sorcerer said:

 

1 minute ago, Chaos_Sorcerer said:

I know about all of the reliability and the clean look of the OS

 

but is that really enough to justify for $1500 for a 13" laptop

 

Yeah, the drive speeds are pure insanity, and the track pad is really nice,

For some those are enough 

[AresKrieger]

2 minutes ago, Chaos_Sorcerer said:

I know about all of the reliability and the clean look of the OS, but is that really enough to justify for $1500 for a 13" laptop with integrated graphics, an ULV i5, an awful keyboard, and basically no compatibility with anything without adapters? Yeah, the drive speeds are pure insanity, and the trackpad is really nice, but there are so many better Windows alternatives that I find it difficult to drop any money on a Mac. I'm not a content creator, so I see no benefit from using Final Cut or anything. For students, the Dell XPS 13 is a much better option...unless their Dad is Craig Federighi or something. 

I feel like I've read this comment at least 2 times before déjà vu

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, Chaos_Sorcerer said:

 For students, the Dell XPS 13 is a much better option...

And thats just like your opinion man

[iamdarkyoshi]

1 minute ago, Chaos_Sorcerer said:

I know about all of the reliability and the clean look of the OS, but is that really enough to justify for $1500 for a 13" laptop with integrated graphics, an ULV i5, an awful keyboard, and basically no compatibility with anything without adapters? Yeah, the drive speeds are pure insanity, and the trackpad is really nice, but there are so many better Windows alternatives that I find it difficult to drop any money on a Mac. I'm not a content creator, so I see no benefit from using Final Cut or anything. For students, the Dell XPS 13 is a much better option...unless their Dad is Craig Federighi or something. 

Hell, even a 20$ chromebook running windows is a good enough device for college or general use

[zMeul]

Just now, TheRandomness said:

I just put what I got when I googled 'DDR4L Power consumption'

I think a measure in watts would've been better to use. 

yes, but only KabyLake+ are capable of using DDR4L and LPDDR4

[Chaos_Sorcerer]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

And thats just like your opinion man

I feel like it's what most other people have to say. I say Apple's innovation died with Steve. 

[Chaos_Sorcerer]

2 minutes ago, AresKrieger said:

I feel like I've read this comment at least 2 times before déjà vu

?

[TheRandomness]

Just now, zMeul said:

yes, but only KabyLake+ are capable of using DDR4L and LPDDR4

Apple isn't using the latest hardware in their top of the line MacBook? RIPOFFFFFFF

(/s ish)

But still, a normal DDR4 chip/stick uses around 1.2V~, which still isn't that much. Would probably require a larger battery to get the 10 minutes of life back. 

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, Chaos_Sorcerer said:

 Apple's innovation died with Steve. 

I would have to agree. Tim Cook is not Steve Jobs, he is there to keep the company going to to rake in the dough. So far he has not failed at that so there is no reason for the board or his investors to get angry at him. Apple is doing business as usual and that may be a bad thing or it may not, but its what is happening and there isnt anything that can change it really. 

[AresKrieger]

3 minutes ago, Chaos_Sorcerer said:

?

Yeah I'm confused as well, hence calling it déjà vu I find it very odd to say the least as the comment really couldn't have existed as the info on the macbook pro just came out.

 

Maybe I should start thinking about the lottery

[zMeul]

Just now, TheRandomness said:

Apple isn't using the latest hardware in their top of the line MacBook? RIPOFFFFFFF

(/s ish)

But still, a normal DDR4 chip/stick uses around 1.2V~, which still isn't that much. Would probably require a larger battery to get the 10 minutes of life back. 

I'm still trying to find full electrical specs on DDR3L and DDR4 to see how much power actually they use

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, TheRandomness said:

Apple isn't using the latest hardware in their top of the line MacBook? RIPOFFFFFFF

 

You have to realize that Apple would have had a whole slew of more problems if they waited for the new Intel chips. Its not as easy as dropping a part in and selling it. 

[TheRandomness]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

You have to realize that Apple would have had a whole slew of more problems if they waited for the new Intel chips. Its not as easy as dropping a part in and selling it. 

Yeah, but from the perspective of anyone who actually needs over 16GBs of RAM waiting would make sense. They could at least reduce the price for this year's model...

[Chaos_Sorcerer]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

I would have to agree. Tim Cook is not Steve Jobs, he is there to keep the company going to to rake in the dough. So far he has not failed at that so there is no reason for the board or his investors to get angry at him. Apple is doing business as usual and that may be a bad thing or it may not, but its what is happening and there isnt anything that can change it really. 

Yeah. He's a great businessman, but he's not the creative genius that Steve was. I say there are only five viable Apple products right now:

 

iPhone 7 Plus

Retina 5K iMac

15" Retina MacBook Pro

12" Retina MacBook (very rare cases)

Mac Pro (very rare cases)

 

Rest in Peace, good sir Jobs, you will be remembered by all of us as the second-greatest innovator in the industry of all time (second only to the one and only Lord Gaben).

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, TheRandomness said:

They could at least reduce the price for this year's model...

That wouldn't be a very capitalist thing to do......

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, Chaos_Sorcerer said:

(second only to the one and only Lord Gaben).

 hahahaha

[SSL]

11 minutes ago, Chaos_Sorcerer said:

I know about all of the reliability and the clean look of the OS, but is that really enough to justify for $1500 for a 13" laptop with integrated graphics, an ULV i5, an awful keyboard, and basically no compatibility with anything without adapters?

 

$1500 isn't much for someone with a real job. No, it probably doesn't make much sense for a student on a budget, but that isn't the only market for a 13" notebook.