Posted June 16, 2016 Sounds good. Filling a gap I suppose. I'd want 480 power or more for an upgrade but there's a place for this for sure. Solve your own audio issues | First Steps with RPi 3 | Humidity & Condensation | Sleep & Hibernation | Overclocking RAM | Making Backups | Displays | 4K / 8K / 16K / etc. | Do I need 80+ Platinum? If you can read this you're using the wrong theme. You can change it at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 36 minutes ago, TheAmazingCookieFromSquare said: Yes tech news... A mod will move it at some point lel There is going to be the RX 490 later on in the year I think this might be the first post ever to be moved in to tech news Solve your own audio issues | First Steps with RPi 3 | Humidity & Condensation | Sleep & Hibernation | Overclocking RAM | Making Backups | Displays | 4K / 8K / 16K / etc. | Do I need 80+ Platinum? If you can read this you're using the wrong theme. You can change it at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 17 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said: I have a feeling that people with older GPUs are suddenly going to see games completely unplayable when they spent $500 4 years ago while a $150 GPU will play 1440p reasonably... kinda weird to think that this generation of GPUs has just skyrocketed in capability but I think it's going to encourage companies to make "Crysis syndrome" games that are horribly un-optimized. Just a guess though. You're telling me. Look at my sig. It was once an awesome setup, but these days it's quite lacking. "If a Lobster is a fish because it moves by jumping, then a kangaroo is a bird" - Admiral Paulo de Castro Moreira da Silva "There is nothing more difficult than fixing something that isn't all the way broken yet." - Author Unknown Spoiler Intel Core i7-3960X @ 4.6 GHz - Asus P9X79WS/IPMI - 12GB DDR3-1600 quad-channel - EVGA GTX 1080ti SC - Fractal Design Define R5 - 500GB Crucial MX200 - NH-D15 - Logitech G710+ - Mionix Naos 7000 - Sennheiser PC350 w/Topping VX-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 24 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said: I have a feeling that people with older GPUs are suddenly going to see games completely unplayable when they spent $500 4 years ago while a $150 GPU will play 1440p reasonably... kinda weird to think that this generation of GPUs has just skyrocketed in capability but I think it's going to encourage companies to make "Crysis syndrome" games that are horribly un-optimized. Just a guess though. *cough* ubisoft *cough* "We don't really care about efficiency on PC since if it doesn't run well, you can just buy a bigger GPU" Solve your own audio issues | First Steps with RPi 3 | Humidity & Condensation | Sleep & Hibernation | Overclocking RAM | Making Backups | Displays | 4K / 8K / 16K / etc. | Do I need 80+ Platinum? If you can read this you're using the wrong theme. You can change it at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 Now I'm more curious about the RX 460. I could easily toss one of those in my guest PC and not have to do any upgrades other than the CPU since the monitor it uses is only 1440x900 Currently it has a GTX 670 paired with a 955 BE PC: i3 6100/R9 380X 4GB/8GB DDR4/840GB worth of SSDs * rMBP: i7 4870HQ/GT 750M 2GB/16GB DDR3/512GB SSD * Wii U 8GB/XB1S 2TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 And this is why I never found value in buying expensive GPUs. I got an R9 280 that I bought for peanuts, overclocked it within an inch of its life and now I'm getting going to get the RX 480 which will give me a damn nice jump in performance for very little money again. Had I bought the GTX 980 or 980ti, I would be kicking myself for having spent that money. Lower class proletarian computing! "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity" - George Carlin (1937-2008) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, Ze_Mako said: Now I'm more curious about the RX 460. I could easily toss one of those in my guest PC and not have to do any upgrades other than the CPU since the monitor it uses is only 1440x900 Currently it has a GTX 670 paired with a 955 BE Yeah, it would probably fly at that resolution. Get yourself the RX 470 and you'll be maxing out pretty much everything with 60 FPS. "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity" - George Carlin (1937-2008) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 17 minutes ago, killcomic said: And this is why I never found value in buying expensive GPUs. I got an R9 280 that I bought for peanuts, overclocked it within an inch of its life and now I'm getting going to get the RX 480 which will give me a damn nice jump in performance for very little money again. Had I bought the GTX 980 or 980ti, I would be kicking myself for having spent that money. Lower class proletarian computing! When I remember how much GPUs costed when I was building my PC... 7970 €520 GTX 680 €500 GTX 770 €380 (got this one) Now GTX 970 €300 R9 390 €330 RX 480 €230 RX 470 €180 GPUs are getting more and more powerful and cheaper too. I hope that I will be able to sell my 770 for at least €100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 The RX 470 is barely a touch more performing than an R9 280X OC, which is what I have. My card can run most things on a mix of high/medium settings at 1920x1200, so I wouldn't recommend a 470 to anyone that wants to play max settings at 1080p in AAA games. Quote I have a feeling that people with older GPUs are suddenly going to see games completely unplayable when they spent $500 4 years ago while a $150 GPU will play 1440p reasonably... kinda weird to think that this generation of GPUs has just skyrocketed in capability but I think it's going to encourage companies to make "Crysis syndrome" games that are horribly un-optimized. Just a guess though. A graphics card lasting 4 years while still playing games on high settings is a phenomenon that didn't exist prior to the Xbox 360 and PS3 releases. Up until Crysis' release in 2007, it was full-steam ahead with each new gen taking a big leap being made over the previous gen in performance, and there was a so-called "graphics war," where ever next AAA game made an effort to out-do all others that had already been released. Crysis' release was the final say on the graphics war, before the great graphics-standstill of many years. But because the 360 and PS3 dominated game sales for their time, most all developers stopped developing for the PC first, and the game the PC did get were usually ported from their console versions, without any extra PC features or visual enhancements. So, since most all games were targeting a static console's performance for a long number of years, graphics in games suddenly stopped progressing by any noteworthy degree, and so graphics cards makers must have decided that there was no point in making big graphical performance leaps year after year, and the rate of performance increase in graphics cards came to a relative stand-still over what was previously normal. Only with the GTX 980 ti would I say that things started to pick up the pace a bit again. But the only people who are going to be surprised that a many-years-old card isn't a top performer anymore are people who started buying cards during the great lull in graphics hardware progression of the 360 / PS3 generation, or thereafter, or people who accepted that lull as the new norm. But me, I personally hope that the lull was a temporary aberration caused by the strangling restraint those consoles held over the market for many years, and that now graphics tech development will somewhat continue onward into greater graphics glory. But we currently aren't seeing games move forward in graphical fidelity at rates similar to pre-Crysis standards. Also, it appears to me that AMD and Nvidia have no trouble turning their generational graphics card performance increases up and down, like a faucet , to parallel the practical needs of the gaming industry. So, I'm not amazed by how much performance can be achieved per dollar, as ability to develop and manufacture doesn't seem to be the governing factor for how powerful each new graphics-tech gen is. It seems that raw graphics performance increase road-maps are largely a product of those companies calculating how much they need to do, to accommodate the market, while not getting too ahead. You own the software that you purchase - Understanding software licenses and EULAs "We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the american public believes is false" - William Casey, CIA Director 1981-1987 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Energycore said: The whole xx9.99 is a weird paradigm in marketing that I'd rather went away. I'm more likely to remember a product's price when it says 150 than when it says 149.99 It's 100% a marketing construct, based on real world phenomenon. It's not aimed at online retailers or people that shop around (and try to remember a price). It's aimed at impulse buyers and people just casually looking around. Basically, when you're standing in a store, looking at various price tags, subconsciously, 149.99 is easier to swallow then 150. It has an even bigger affect when nearing the closest tens or hundreds. Take for example: 299.99 vs 300. 299.99 is "under 300" (if only just), but the brain of the average shopper equates that with a better value. 1 hour ago, Energycore said: Yes, but it's a lie. In retail, stores are likely to outright refuse to give you your penny back (or they won't have any), and even then the difference is so little. It's misleading marketing, which I guess is a redundant statement to make. Erm... what? No. It's not a lie. 299.99 is 299.99. Some countries (Take Canada, for example) have removed pennies from circulation, so any prices are rounded up or down, to the closest $0.05. But there is tax on (nearly) every item anyway, including graphics cards. So 299.99 with sales tax in Canada is actually $338.99 (13% tax). If you pay in cash, you'd actually pay $339 even. But if you pay with Debit or Credit Card (or any digital form of payment, gift cards, Apple Pay, etc), then you pay the exact figure, $338.99. With the system in Canada, it averages out pretty evenly, so sometimes you pay a few more pennies, and sometimes you pay a few less pennies. But I never carry cash, and certainly sure as hell don't buy things like graphics cards in cash, so it never affects me anyway. In your country, assuming pennies are still in circulation, if they are not giving you your penny back, then that store is actually straight up stealing from you - Report the cashier to their manager, and shop elsewhere (Though good luck going to the police over one penny). If they don't have any pennies, wait for them to get change from their safe. If they are out of pennies, then simply don't buy the product right that moment, or use a different payment method. For Sale: Meraki Bundle iPhone Xr 128 GB Product Red - HP Spectre x360 13" (i5 - 8 GB RAM - 256 GB SSD) - HP ZBook 15v G5 15" (i7-8850H - 16 GB RAM - 512 GB SSD - NVIDIA Quadro P600) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said: Because they only announced Polaris, not Vega. Yes, and since it's not announced, like the GP102... I don't count it as relevant... Spartan 1.0 Spoiler CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Extreme ATX LGA1150 MotherboardMemory: Corsair Dominator 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 MemoryStorage: OCZ Vector Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State DriveStorage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Classified ACX 2.0 Video CardCase: Thermaltake Urban S41 ATX Mid Tower CasePower Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power SupplyOptical Drive: LG BH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOptical Drive: LG BH10LS30 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOperating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bitSound Card: Creative Labs ZXR 24-bit 192 KHz Sound CardMonitor: 2x Asus VG278HE 27.0" 144Hz MonitorKeyboard: Logitech G19s Wired Gaming KeyboardKeyboard: Razer Orbweaver Elite Mechanical Gaming Keypad Wired Gaming KeyboardMouse: Logitech G700s Wireless Laser MouseHeadphones: Creative Labs EVO ZxR 7.1 Channel HeadsetSpeakers: Creative Labs GigaWorks T40 Series II 32W 2ch Speakers Hades 1.0 Spoiler Laptop: Dell Alienware 15 2015 CPU: i7-4720HQ CPU Memory: 16GB DDR3 SODIMM RAM Storage: 256GB M.2 SSD Storage: 1TB 5400rpm 2.5" HDD Screen: 15.6" FHD Display Video Card: Nvidia GTX 970M with 3GB Operating System: Windows 10 Pro Project: Spartan 1.2 PLEASE SUPPORT ME NEW CHANNEL > Tech Inquisition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said: Plus, that would be acting like a 280x can't game because didn't the 7970 come out like 4-5 years ago? The 7970 =a 280x. Yeah, but that was within the great slowdown of graphics tech generational performance increases, while the consoles' dominating market-shares were the governing factor in what game developers' made as their graphical and game-performance targets. That's the only example in PC graphics history of that happening, with the 7970-380x perhaps being the penultimate example of micro-progression in generational tech, and people shouldn't read that as the norm, but as the worst-case example of graphic-tech idleness. You own the software that you purchase - Understanding software licenses and EULAs "We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the american public believes is false" - William Casey, CIA Director 1981-1987 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Energycore said: Yes, but it's a lie. In retail, stores are likely to outright refuse to give you your penny back (or they won't have any), and even then the difference is so little. It's misleading marketing, which I guess is a redundant statement to make. Whoa! What country are you in? Don't you have consumer protection laws? That's outright stealing! "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity" - George Carlin (1937-2008) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Ryan_Vickers said: Sounds good. Filling a gap I suppose. I'd want 480 power or more for an upgrade but there's a place for this for sure. htpc + console emulation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 46 minutes ago, killcomic said: Yeah, it would probably fly at that resolution. Get yourself the RX 470 and you'll be maxing out pretty much everything with 60 FPS. I'll have to wait and see what the prices for the two cards are for since it's a PC I don't plan on dumping a whole lot of money into. Pretty sure the 955 BE would bottleneck both cards to some extent so I may need to upgrade that first. PC: i3 6100/R9 380X 4GB/8GB DDR4/840GB worth of SSDs * rMBP: i7 4870HQ/GT 750M 2GB/16GB DDR3/512GB SSD * Wii U 8GB/XB1S 2TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 1 hour ago, STRMfrmXMN said: I have a feeling that people with older GPUs are suddenly going to see games completely unplayable when they spent $500 4 years ago while a $150 GPU will play 1440p reasonably... kinda weird to think that this generation of GPUs has just skyrocketed in capability but I think it's going to encourage companies to make "Crysis syndrome" games that are horribly un-optimized. Just a guess though. Wouldn't shock me in the fucking slightest. Hell, it already kinda happened in the 7th generation and it wasn't any better in the 6th generation, with such gems as SimCity 4, The Simpsons: Hit and Run, and many many more titles like Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. Check out my guide on how to scan cover art here! Local asshole and 6th generation console enthusiast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, huilun02 said: But ofc there be people whining about how AMD should die off so they can finally pay less for Nvidia cards. No, they should actually compete at a level footing rather than just pander to the general masses like the console clans... Fury and Fury X were real competitors for the 980/980Ti/TitanX... (although the 4GB memory put my off) We need 1070/1080 competition sooner than later... I've grown sick and tired of AMD just making do... until they actually compete again... I will never support their products. Spartan 1.0 Spoiler CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Extreme ATX LGA1150 MotherboardMemory: Corsair Dominator 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 MemoryStorage: OCZ Vector Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State DriveStorage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Classified ACX 2.0 Video CardCase: Thermaltake Urban S41 ATX Mid Tower CasePower Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power SupplyOptical Drive: LG BH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOptical Drive: LG BH10LS30 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOperating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bitSound Card: Creative Labs ZXR 24-bit 192 KHz Sound CardMonitor: 2x Asus VG278HE 27.0" 144Hz MonitorKeyboard: Logitech G19s Wired Gaming KeyboardKeyboard: Razer Orbweaver Elite Mechanical Gaming Keypad Wired Gaming KeyboardMouse: Logitech G700s Wireless Laser MouseHeadphones: Creative Labs EVO ZxR 7.1 Channel HeadsetSpeakers: Creative Labs GigaWorks T40 Series II 32W 2ch Speakers Hades 1.0 Spoiler Laptop: Dell Alienware 15 2015 CPU: i7-4720HQ CPU Memory: 16GB DDR3 SODIMM RAM Storage: 256GB M.2 SSD Storage: 1TB 5400rpm 2.5" HDD Screen: 15.6" FHD Display Video Card: Nvidia GTX 970M with 3GB Operating System: Windows 10 Pro Project: Spartan 1.2 PLEASE SUPPORT ME NEW CHANNEL > Tech Inquisition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, huilun02 said: Funny how Nvidia is the big bad wolf trying to rape our wallets but the hate goes somewhere else. Funny how Nvidia's blamed for high prices, but we want their products and there's no alternative... It's because AMD fails to compete at the level we want that Nvidia can dictate the prices. Competition at the high end will bring prices down. Nvidia is doing what any company without any competition and high demand will do... allow the prices to climb. Economics 101... It's not Nvidia being bad... they are following the law of competition... AMD's the one that's lost the fight. Spartan 1.0 Spoiler CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Extreme ATX LGA1150 MotherboardMemory: Corsair Dominator 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 MemoryStorage: OCZ Vector Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State DriveStorage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Classified ACX 2.0 Video CardCase: Thermaltake Urban S41 ATX Mid Tower CasePower Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power SupplyOptical Drive: LG BH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOptical Drive: LG BH10LS30 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOperating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bitSound Card: Creative Labs ZXR 24-bit 192 KHz Sound CardMonitor: 2x Asus VG278HE 27.0" 144Hz MonitorKeyboard: Logitech G19s Wired Gaming KeyboardKeyboard: Razer Orbweaver Elite Mechanical Gaming Keypad Wired Gaming KeyboardMouse: Logitech G700s Wireless Laser MouseHeadphones: Creative Labs EVO ZxR 7.1 Channel HeadsetSpeakers: Creative Labs GigaWorks T40 Series II 32W 2ch Speakers Hades 1.0 Spoiler Laptop: Dell Alienware 15 2015 CPU: i7-4720HQ CPU Memory: 16GB DDR3 SODIMM RAM Storage: 256GB M.2 SSD Storage: 1TB 5400rpm 2.5" HDD Screen: 15.6" FHD Display Video Card: Nvidia GTX 970M with 3GB Operating System: Windows 10 Pro Project: Spartan 1.2 PLEASE SUPPORT ME NEW CHANNEL > Tech Inquisition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, huilun02 said: You're right they have absolutely no choice when it comes to pricing. Neither does Apple because there are no adequate Android alternatives. Its never the fault of people who vote with their wallet by accepting stupid prices. That's because want is sometimes a stronger driver than need... Spartan 1.0 Spoiler CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Extreme ATX LGA1150 MotherboardMemory: Corsair Dominator 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 MemoryStorage: OCZ Vector Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State DriveStorage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Classified ACX 2.0 Video CardCase: Thermaltake Urban S41 ATX Mid Tower CasePower Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power SupplyOptical Drive: LG BH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOptical Drive: LG BH10LS30 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOperating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bitSound Card: Creative Labs ZXR 24-bit 192 KHz Sound CardMonitor: 2x Asus VG278HE 27.0" 144Hz MonitorKeyboard: Logitech G19s Wired Gaming KeyboardKeyboard: Razer Orbweaver Elite Mechanical Gaming Keypad Wired Gaming KeyboardMouse: Logitech G700s Wireless Laser MouseHeadphones: Creative Labs EVO ZxR 7.1 Channel HeadsetSpeakers: Creative Labs GigaWorks T40 Series II 32W 2ch Speakers Hades 1.0 Spoiler Laptop: Dell Alienware 15 2015 CPU: i7-4720HQ CPU Memory: 16GB DDR3 SODIMM RAM Storage: 256GB M.2 SSD Storage: 1TB 5400rpm 2.5" HDD Screen: 15.6" FHD Display Video Card: Nvidia GTX 970M with 3GB Operating System: Windows 10 Pro Project: Spartan 1.2 PLEASE SUPPORT ME NEW CHANNEL > Tech Inquisition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, GidonsClaw said: That's because want is sometimes a stronger driver than need... ^That's it right there The kind of mind set that's killing prices for everyone else. i5 2400 | ASUS RTX 4090 TUF OC | Seasonic 1200W Prime Gold | WD Green 120gb | WD Blue 1tb | some ram | a random case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 16 minutes ago, GidonsClaw said: Funny how Nvidia's blamed for high prices, but we want their products and there's no alternative... It's because AMD fails to compete at the level we want that Nvidia can dictate the prices. Competition at the high end will bring prices down. Nvidia is doing what any company without any competition and high demand will do... allow the prices to climb. Economics 101... It's not Nvidia being bad... they are following the law of competition... AMD's the one that's lost the fight. Who is this "we"? I sure as hell do not want a $500-$800 (CDN) GPU. I will never spend that much to play a video game. "We" don't see the value in buying an expensive GPU. "We" have learned that developers make game to saturate as much of the market as possible, not to appease the small percentage of consumers that spend $500+ (USD) for a single PC component to play video games. AMD is competing at a price point that "we" appreciate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 This guy is just pissed that his less than a year old GTX 980 is now a shit tier card in his own eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, stconquest said: Who is this "we". I sure as hell do not want a $500-$800 (CDN) GPU. I will never spend that much to play a video game. "We" don't see the value in buying an expensive GPU. "We" have learned that developers make game to saturate as much of the market as possible, not to appease the small percentage of consumers that spend $500+ (USD) for a single PC component to play video games. AMD is competing at a price point that "we" appreciate. Don't worry... we didn't include you... Spartan 1.0 Spoiler CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Extreme ATX LGA1150 MotherboardMemory: Corsair Dominator 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 MemoryStorage: OCZ Vector Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State DriveStorage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Classified ACX 2.0 Video CardCase: Thermaltake Urban S41 ATX Mid Tower CasePower Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power SupplyOptical Drive: LG BH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOptical Drive: LG BH10LS30 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOperating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bitSound Card: Creative Labs ZXR 24-bit 192 KHz Sound CardMonitor: 2x Asus VG278HE 27.0" 144Hz MonitorKeyboard: Logitech G19s Wired Gaming KeyboardKeyboard: Razer Orbweaver Elite Mechanical Gaming Keypad Wired Gaming KeyboardMouse: Logitech G700s Wireless Laser MouseHeadphones: Creative Labs EVO ZxR 7.1 Channel HeadsetSpeakers: Creative Labs GigaWorks T40 Series II 32W 2ch Speakers Hades 1.0 Spoiler Laptop: Dell Alienware 15 2015 CPU: i7-4720HQ CPU Memory: 16GB DDR3 SODIMM RAM Storage: 256GB M.2 SSD Storage: 1TB 5400rpm 2.5" HDD Screen: 15.6" FHD Display Video Card: Nvidia GTX 970M with 3GB Operating System: Windows 10 Pro Project: Spartan 1.2 PLEASE SUPPORT ME NEW CHANNEL > Tech Inquisition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 1 minute ago, GidonsClaw said: Don't worry... we didn't include you... I know. I included me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 16, 2016 1 minute ago, stconquest said: I know. I included me. Your "we" isn't required at the high spec level... Spartan 1.0 Spoiler CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Extreme ATX LGA1150 MotherboardMemory: Corsair Dominator 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 MemoryStorage: OCZ Vector Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State DriveStorage: Seagate Desktop HDD 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Classified ACX 2.0 Video CardCase: Thermaltake Urban S41 ATX Mid Tower CasePower Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power SupplyOptical Drive: LG BH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOptical Drive: LG BH10LS30 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD WriterOperating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bitSound Card: Creative Labs ZXR 24-bit 192 KHz Sound CardMonitor: 2x Asus VG278HE 27.0" 144Hz MonitorKeyboard: Logitech G19s Wired Gaming KeyboardKeyboard: Razer Orbweaver Elite Mechanical Gaming Keypad Wired Gaming KeyboardMouse: Logitech G700s Wireless Laser MouseHeadphones: Creative Labs EVO ZxR 7.1 Channel HeadsetSpeakers: Creative Labs GigaWorks T40 Series II 32W 2ch Speakers Hades 1.0 Spoiler Laptop: Dell Alienware 15 2015 CPU: i7-4720HQ CPU Memory: 16GB DDR3 SODIMM RAM Storage: 256GB M.2 SSD Storage: 1TB 5400rpm 2.5" HDD Screen: 15.6" FHD Display Video Card: Nvidia GTX 970M with 3GB Operating System: Windows 10 Pro Project: Spartan 1.2 PLEASE SUPPORT ME NEW CHANNEL > Tech Inquisition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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