Call Of Duty: Infinte Warfare Pre Orders Very Low

[79wjd]

11 minutes ago, Energycore said:

For anyone interested in playing Cod4, why not just buy Cod 4?

Servers

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

Servers

I'm sure an unofficial server could be set up. I do see the point of that, but I wouldn't want to give Activision more money even if I liked CoD 4.

[LAwLz]

15 minutes ago, JurunceNK said:

Do you have any links to the research? I would be interested in this. But then at the same time, I feel like it's BS without providing any evidence or any citations of where you got this info from. Can you please provide them? Much appreciated

Found the link. It was from an interview with the president of Tripwire (developers of Killing Floor and Red Orchestra 2).

Very good interview. Here is a citation:

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When I was developing Action Mode [for RO2], I got a group of people that I know that are pretty hardcore Call of Duty players. And my goal was to create something that was accessible enough for them to enjoy the game—not turn it into Call of Duty, but try to make something that I thought was casual enough but with the Red Orchestra gameplay style that they would enjoy. And we iterated on it a lot. And just listening to all the niggling, pedantic things that they would complain about, that made them not want to play the game, I just thought, “I give up. Call of Duty has ruined this whole generation of gamers.”

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What did they complain about?

 

Gibson: It's the gameplay mechanics that they become used to. The way that players instantly accelerate when they move, they don't build up speed. “The weapons really don't have a lot of power” [in RO2]. They're all very weak. The way they handle... They're like: “I hate Red Orchestra, I can't play it.” Well, why? “Because the guy doesn't move like he does in Call of Duty. Call of Duty has great movement.” Why is it great? “Because it just is, I just like the way it works.” So you don't like the momentum system in Red Orchestra? “Yeah, it sucks, it's clunky, it's terrible.” Well, why? “It's just because I'm used to this.”

 

I make it sound like there was a combative conversation, probably because I get a little emotional when I think about it. But it was really a calm discussion of, “What don't you like?” and “It doesn't feel like Call of Duty.” Almost every element boiled down to “it doesn't feel like Call of Duty.”

 

It was the same interview as the comparison between COD and a slot machine is from.

[Prysin]

15 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

This is a good sign in my opinion. Perhaps people have finally learned not to pre-order things.  That or they've just lost interest in CoD

either way that is good.

 

One less ultra unrealistic FPS game.

 

Unfortunatly, the chance of meeting someone who "fucked yer momma" in some other game will dramatically increase.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

43 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Found the link. It was from an interview with the president of Tripwire (developers of Killing Floor and Red Orchestra 2).

Very good interview. Here is a citation:

 

It was the same interview as the comparison between COD and a slot machine is from.

Thanks! Sure is a good read.

 

I even agree with the guys over at Tripwire Interactive that COD has perhaps ruined an entire generation of gamers because they all now want that instant gratification they've become used to.

[byalexandr]

So where are the numbers for BF1?

[Prysin]

32 minutes ago, byalexandr said:

So where are the numbers for BF1?

1 million

[Doobeedoo]

Still to early to tell how much it will sell.

Also, sheeps aside and haters aside.

 

From trailer, while game being futuristic, at least they're taking it in space, doing something else, so I can see it being different in that regard gameplay wise. There will be like no gravity gameplay, mechs, ships, exos I'm sure.

I know people would like older setting, WaW2 or something would be really good. Then again, people complained that there were to many WW2 games and all, now they complain there are to much futuristic ones. Circle. 

 

As far as WW older setting gameplay, we'll see how new BF1 will be. For futuristic, even off planet, CoD:IW will be there.

[Ethernet]

This will only be until Call of Duty releases their multiplayer trailer/gameplay. Once people see the gameplay, and like it, they will preorder it,

[Ethernet]

22 hours ago, Kimmers said:

Call of Duty should be like Porsche 911s.

 

New but not new. The community has spoken and we don't want this futuristic flying in the air bullshit shooter.

The community has spoken by the developers haven't yet. Why? Because each game has a 3 year development cycle. Since the boosting/jumping was popular in Advanced Warfare and Black Ops 3, Infinity Ward (this time around) can't stop production of a game that has been in development for years now and start over. Especially if the movements (jumping/boosting) is a key part of the game (higher spots, walls you can run on, etc). Hopefully by the next Call of Duty they will fix all this bull crap stuff.

[Kimmers]

1 hour ago, Ethernet said:

The community has spoken by the developers haven't yet. Why? Because each game has a 3 year development cycle. Since the boosting/jumping was popular in Advanced Warfare and Black Ops 3, Infinity Ward (this time around) can't stop production of a game that has been in development for years now and start over. Especially if the movements (jumping/boosting) is a key part of the game (higher spots, walls you can run on, etc). Hopefully by the next Call of Duty they will fix all this bull crap stuff.

Ever since boosting was introduced, COD sales are gone down dramatically.

[RagnarokDel]

I dont understand... It's the only Call of Duty I've had an interest on in years...

[79wjd]

13 minutes ago, RagnarokDel said:

I dont understand... It's the only Call of Duty I've had an interest on in years...

Give it some time. I've preordered (yes, blasphemous, I know) the last few and I didn't even know they're taking preorders yet (and I'm sure I'm not alone).

[hex4]

The music alone killed it.

[Thiback]

I don't get the hype over BF1. I agree it that a change of theme is welcome, with WW1 being under-represented in video games compared to other conflicts regarding its importance IMO. But while the subsequent hate over COD is understandable due to the corruption it has extended to the gaming community with proposing the same gameplay every year, and all the arguments made by previous posts, I don't get why anybody should praise BF1 that much :
I've played BF 1942 and its extensions, and BF2. The last Battlefield game I played was BF3, which I made the mistake to buy recently. I played it for 200hr before realising I had stopped to play it for anything else than unlocking new weapons after 50 hrs. Sure, it differs from COD (vehicules, parachuting, large scale battles...), but it has borrowed a lot of COD bells and whisltes since BF3, like gameplay unlocks and congratulating players on anything they do in the game for instance. 

Indeed, the addiction it provides stems from the game displaying "100 points for that", "100 points for this" every ten seconds, for everything you do ingame. It even awards the player points if he/she has provided "suppressive fire" which is in my mind the same as giving you a consolation prize for having missed your target.
Also, don't forget the game will be produced by EA, which probably means, like in BF3 and later titles, that we will most likely get little content from the start for a $60 game, with DLCs offering small portions of gameplay for hefty premiums after the initial fun momentum from release have faded.

 

Now on COD. Although I find the trailer is better than the BF1 one (come on it shows more than BF1's, and has more original music), I am not hyped about the game in any way. The only thing I would have looked forward to playing/watching would be that COD4 remake, just to see how far we came since 2006. But since this is behind a paywall that I am in no way interested to get, Activision can suck it.

AAA shooters should stop trying to emulate COD, whose formula has been overused. I understand that the gaming community has become tired of being masturbated by COD-style of ingame player ego reward. Devs should try to delve futher into original gameplay, like Overwatch. Also I would love to see new good RTS.

 

[tl:dr] COD isn't makning me excited at all, and that BF1 hype train might be months away from crashing into a huge disappointment if it obeys the typical EA marketing schemes.

[Thiback]

20 hours ago, Energycore said:

For anyone interested in playing Cod4, why not just buy Cod 4?

Older COD titles see their official servers disappearing to entice gamers into moving to more recent titles. Remaining servers are plagued with hackers (they even somehow made their way onto the console versions) that Activision won't bother protecting legit players against.

[goodtofufriday]

cod 3 was announced on april 9th. It had a lot more time for preorders. 

[Energycore]

2 hours ago, Thiback said:

Older COD titles see their official servers disappearing to entice gamers into moving to more recent titles. Remaining servers are plagued with hackers (they even somehow made their way onto the console versions) that Activision won't bother protecting legit players against.

That's a shame. Of course Activision wouldn't protect their old customers, they only care about the ones who buy in today, to the new thing, and give them more money.

[FPSwithaWacomTablet]

I had been on the CoD train for a while, from CoD 4 to BOps 2. I lost interest since Ghosts onwards. Maybe it's just me, but always worrying about having your back shot at with today's map balance is what derailed me from CoD.

 

I miss camping.

[dalekphalm]

I honestly couldn't care less about BF OR COD Multiplayer. I'm one of the few that play them for their campaigns. I'm legitimately very interested in the COD:IW campaign. It looks very interesting, with some rather new twists on the franchise. The space fighter part of the trailer looks badass as fuck.

 

The thing about COD ruining gamers? Well I don't think that's fair. You personally may not like that kind of gameplay, but millions do. That does not make them wrong simply because they like a game you think is *sniff* "Beneath You".

 

WW1 has some interesting settings, but they are definitely taking a lot of creative freedom to make the setting more exciting - they are essentially taking aspects from COD to do this.

[79wjd]

1 hour ago, Energycore said:

That's a shame. Of course Activision wouldn't protect their old customers, they only care about the ones who buy in today, to the new thing, and give them more money.

it's also because the player bases of the previous releases fall off substantially after each successive year. It's not that Activision just says "fuck our entire user base" -- most moved on to a newer release and so it doesnt pay to maintain the older servers. 

 

22 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

The thing about COD ruining gamers? Well I don't think that's fair. You personally may not like that kind of gameplay, but millions do. That does not make them wrong simply because they like a game you think is *sniff* "Beneath You".

Agreed. There is a time  when I want to play CSGO, and there is a time when I want to just relax and have fun (and not worry about having to leave and do something in the next hour and a half).

[Bensemus]

On 6/5/2016 at 10:33 PM, christianled59 said:

Not to utterly defend ubi, but most of their hate comes from failed innovation (most of the time, this doesn't include Primal. That shit was pathetic). At least they tried to mix things up and improve on their stuff. Although in the end, it made things worse, they still tried. Unlike COD, where its the same game right down to the fucking engine. Tacking on more movement doesn't make it a new game.

They get a lot of hate for what they say and broken games too. The whole "Keep On Digging" thing started after they had a string of dumb PR statements. 

[kuddlesworth9419]

Don't worry I am sure it will sell a shitton anyway.

[christianled59]

5 hours ago, Bensemus said:

They get a lot of hate for what they say and broken games too. The whole "Keep On Digging" thing started after they had a string of dumb PR statements. 

Yeah I agree. Especially the fps thing.

[LAwLz]

15 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

The thing about COD ruining gamers? Well I don't think that's fair. You personally may not like that kind of gameplay, but millions do. That does not make them wrong simply because they like a game you think is *sniff* "Beneath You".

I assume that's aimed at me. I did not say they were "beneath me". For crying out loud I play "games" like Adventure Capitalist. I don't have any right to say some games are "beneath me". The thing I was trying to say with my post however is that some people basically only plays COD and that's not healthy for the industry. It's like eating only potato chips. Bag after bag every single day. Then when a developer tries to give you a dish with far more complexity and character the customer just goes "I don't like this. It does not taste like potato chips". It's no wonder so many games are just trying to copy COD nowadays (looking at you Halo).

 

What I said was that I think it would be good for the industry if these COD players would go out of their comfort zone and player something that isn't COD. If they did that then developers might be more willing to do new things instead of just falling back on the old COD formula.

 

 

15 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

Agreed. There is a time  when I want to play CSGO, and there is a time when I want to just relax and have fun (and not worry about having to leave and do something in the next hour and a half).

That's totally fine. You are not the problem. The problem are the people who only play COD, and compares all other games to COD. Like the people in the market research group.