Freezer 34 eSports DUO LGA 1700 installation

[frozensun]

Hi guys.Could someone explain me this part because I am confused.

On the pic : prepare backplate, does it mean I would need to remove stock intel backplate on my motherboard prior to installing backplate from Freezer?

https://support.arctic.de/freezer34esportsduor3

 

[RONOTHAN##]

2 minutes ago, frozensun said:

does it mean I would need to remove stock intel backplate on my motherboard prior to installing backplate from Freezer?

No, the Freezer would go over the ILM backplate. 

 

Unless there's a cooler backplate already installed, in which case I have other questions. 

[frozensun]

5 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

No, the Freezer would go over the ILM backplate. 

 

Unless there's a cooler backplate already installed, in which case I have other questions. 

U sure??No, the stock backplate is installed and I already attached contact frame on it.

[RONOTHAN##]

5 minutes ago, frozensun said:

U sure??No, the stock backplate is installed and I already attached contact frame on it.

Yeah, that back plate is just for the ILM. Cooler backplates with few exceptions are designed to mount overtop of it.

[frozensun]

3 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Yeah, that back plate is just for the ILM. Cooler backplates with few exceptions are designed to mount overtop of it.

Okay..thanks.

I dunno why I paid twice more for 34 when Freezer 36 costs half less.

Is 34 that better?

[Levent]

6 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Okay..thanks.

I dunno why I paid twice more for 34 when Freezer 36 costs half less.

Is 34 that better?

I own both, and they perform identical from my own testing. Feels like 36 replaced 34.

[frozensun]

4 minutes ago, Levent said:

I own both, and they perform identical from my own testing. Feels like 36 replaced 34.

But only 34 supports older sockets?

[RONOTHAN##]

6 minutes ago, frozensun said:

But only 34 supports older sockets?

As said above, the 36 is supposed to replace the 34. It's a new cooler when the newest socket this doesn't support stopped being made ~3 years ago. Why bother designing for and including the extra parts for support of something only a handful of their customers would need?

[frozensun]

8 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

As said above, the 36 is supposed to replace the 34. It's a new cooler when the newest socket this doesn't support stopped being made ~3 years ago. Why bother designing for and including the extra parts for support of something only a handful of their customers would need?

I need it because I have 6 desktop PCs in my room, from Pentium III, AM2, socket 2011 v3 etc...

I plan in future to fix computers and people here mostly have desktops older then 3 years

[TPCEA]

1 minute ago, frozensun said:

I need it because I have 6 desktop PCs in my room, from Pentium III, AM2, socket 2011 v3 etc...

I plan in future to fix computers and people here mostly have desktops older then 3 years

The reviews I've seen (I haven't gotten around to testing the 36, which I only got recently and is on a long list of air and water coolers to test) indicate that the 34 is better than the 36.

[RONOTHAN##]

1 minute ago, frozensun said:

people here mostly have desktops older then 3 years

Yes, but not many of them are interested in buying a new CPU cooler. I never said there was no reason to have the older socket support, but at the same time it's not much of a shock that they don't. 

[frozensun]

7 hours ago, RevGAM said:

The reviews I've seen (I haven't gotten around to testing the 36, which I only got recently and is on a long list of air and water coolers to test) indicate that the 34 is better than the 36.

Aha.Probably cuz bionic fans.

[TPCEA]

On 6/21/2024 at 10:41 PM, frozensun said:

Aha. Probably cuz bionic fans.

You know, that's probably true since the specs for the BioniX are somewhat better. Even having dual ball bearings (CO edition) isn't going to offset those lower specs. It's like when they put P12/P14 PWM PST fans on their LF3 instead of P12/P14 Max fans - it robbed the AIOs of a lot of performance.

The 36 is also slightly larger, but I don't think that would make much of a difference since it's not much larger.

 

According to PC Analytics, they are virtually identical unless you're OCing, in which case the 36 is better, but  the 34 is noisier.

Edited June 23, 2024 by RevGAM
Fixed Otto Rong's error.

[frozensun]

I've read somewhere that these things can cause memory instabillity issues, true?

[TPCEA]

2 hours ago, frozensun said:

I've read somewhere that these things can cause memory instabillity issues, true?

Sorry, what "things"?

[frozensun]

3 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Sorry, what "things"?

Contact frame.

[TPCEA]

2 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Contact frame.

I'm sorry, I've never heard of that but my suspicion would be that someone incorrectly installed the BCF or offset mount, leading to cracking of the mobo, which would cause lots of problems, including memory instability. Some people just don't understand that there must be some finesse when installing things, so they over-torque the bolts.

[frozensun]

12 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

I'm sorry, I've never heard of that but my suspicion would be that someone incorrectly installed the BCF or offset mount, leading to cracking of the mobo, which would cause lots of problems, including memory instability. Some people just don't understand that there must be some finesse when installing things, so they over-torque the bolts.

So how much should I tighten the screws, what ia the limit?

[TPCEA]

9 minutes ago, frozensun said:

So how much should I tighten the screws, what ia the limit?

Well, first of all, if you hear cracking, you've torqued them too much and probably need to get your mobo fixed...if that's even possible. So, don't do that.

 

My rule of thumb is that when if I start screwing and I feel resistance already, then I've misthreaded the bolt, so I back out until I feel it click into the proper thread alignment and reverse direction again. I continue to turn until either there is mounting pressure, which means that it may still be misthreaded or another problem, or until I feel major resistance, at which point I stop. Please make sure you screw in (and even unscrew) partway in an X pattern, like with lug nuts on a tire. If there's uneven pressure on the mounting mechanism (such as when you attach an AIO pump due to the tubes, especially if the rad is already mounted), you'll find that you won't (and shouldn't) be able to screw it all the way in. You should always try to minimize any unequal pressure without causing damage to the source of that pressure as well as to the rest of the components involved, which will make it easier. I generally screw each bolt in partway, then I proceed to use the X pattern until I feel resistance and stop for each. This often results in evening of the pressure, which will allow me to further screw the bolts in. I try to keep a visual on the progress of what I'm mounting and, when there's resistance I move to the next bolt. Proceed until all bolts are snug but without applying too much force. You may discover, depending on the evenness of pressure, that it may take several times around before you've fully mounted it. To clarify, once I feel that it's gone from a steady level of resistance to, rather suddenly, much more, I stop and try all of the other bolts. If one moves, it may have given slack to others. If none budge, it's done.

 

The two most important things to keep in mind are that manufacturers tend to make the screws too hardened, which can damage the other parts, which are harder to replace (or non-replaceable, like the mounting holes of a rad), if you repeatedly remove and reattach...Like has happened with my AIO's mounting holes - several of which were eventually stripped by the much harder mounting bolts after somewhere in the area of 100 or so uses. Admittedly, I am sure I made mistakes that contributed to the stripping, but I was not naked - I swear! Still, this is not a concern for any but the least dextrous and unskilled of people as the holes should withstand the very infrequent remounts typical for fans, pumps, BCFs, offset mounts, air coolers, etc.