Whats so wrong with communism?

[Overkilled]

In countries were poverty is a real issue wouldnt it be best to have a system were people get paid the same regardless?

[Volbet]

Other than the fact that it doesn't work in reaity? 

Not that much, actually.

 

Also:

[Kobathor]

If the country is in poverty, then who will pay everybody's paycheck?

 

Also, like other people said, on paper it doesn't seem like a bad idea.. Kinda like Socialism, people think it's good until it doesn't work.

[Swndlr]

In countries were poverty is a real issue wouldnt it be best to have a system were people get paid the same regardless?

History has proven that it does not work.

[Decon]

In countries were poverty is a real issue wouldnt it be best to have a system were people get paid the same regardless?

from what I've seen when people get payed the same regardless there is no incentive to work and nothing gets done

[Nineshadow]

Because Stalin.

[minibois]

inb4 full on flamewar.

 

I dunno. I'm not sure what would work better. IMO a system where hard working people get paid more, seems fair to me. But with all the welfare and stuff to pay to jobless people, it doesn't seem to work.

 

Doesn't matter anyways.

Economy is just an illusion it seems

[Nineshadow]

from what I've seen when people get payed the same regardless there is no incentive to work and nothing gets done

There is.

You work or you go to prison.

I don't think you wouldn't work in that case.

[KraftDinner]

Communism in it self is a great system, and yes it would work in a country riddled with poverty. The reason it tends to fail 10/10 times is that Communism puts way too much power in one persons hand and it is often abused, just my opinion.

[Glenwing]

In countries were poverty is a real issue wouldnt it be best to have a system were people get paid the same regardless?

 

Regardless...of how hard they worked. You didn't finish the sentence. No, that's not really a great system.

[Decon]

There is.

You work or you go to prison.

I don't think you wouldn't work in that case.

so.. slavery?  Forced to work or punished?  

 

doesn't seem like a great idea...

[ZetZet]

Because all of the attempts of applying communism to real life turned into dictatorships REAL FAST.

 

 

It also doesn't work nearly as well. Just imagine, people working every day to figure out the amounts of stuff they need to produce every day and sell it versus people who don't give two shits just setting arbitrary numbers of stuff they need.

 

 

since you are from England you can't really understand it. There were CONSTANT shortages of food in USSR for example because no one knew how much shit they need every day, it's actually one of the reasons it fell, people in Russia were starting to starve.

 

 

 

China is "communism" but it's not really.

 

There is.

You work or you go to prison.

I don't think you wouldn't work in that case.

people worked, like shit. Because they had no incentives. Also regulations were stupid, one good example: drivers were getting paid for the amount of fuel they used, so they just spilled the fuel all over the place and got more money.

[AresKrieger]

As a skilled worker I shun the idea that a fast food worker would make the same amount of money as me, screw communism.

[thekeemo]

the only thing wrong with is that no one has any idea what it truly is..

and people are using bad implementations as the "examples" of what happens

[ThatOneRussian]

True communism is ideal, nothing wrong with it....

[Godlygamer23]

Another issue I have with communism(other than what some of you have mentioned) is ownership is gone. You don't own anything.

[Nineshadow]

so.. slavery?  Forced to work or punished?  

 

doesn't seem like a great idea...

It does seem pretty decent when right after you finish high-school you get a job that pays well, with an apartment/house for free , and all you have to do is just keep working.

That's how communism worked in Romania at least.

[Decon]

communism also doesn't promote innovation or growth... another down side if a country wants to be successful on the world stage IMO

[ZetZet]

True communism is ideal, nothing wrong with it....

Not for humans it's not. Humans like to own stuff, they like to create, they like to invent. Communism pretty much removes all of those things because incentives are removed, you can reach however hard you want you can't reach anything in life.

 

It does seem pretty decent when right after you finish high-school you get a job that pays well, with an apartment/house for free , and all you have to do is just keep working.

That's how communism worked in Romania at least.

yes and Romania came out as one of the poorest countries in Europe after it's amazing communism ended, because it didn't have shit.

[babadoctor]

can of worms has been opened

[harrynowl]

Because it was spearheaded by corrupt governments.

[Atmos]

People have no incentive to go to school and work hard at it for many years to become a great scientist or a great engineer. Why work hard, when you can do the most basic job and be paid the same as the best neurosurgeon or movie star in the country? 

 

That and people are by nature greedy. We want the best life we can have, and so can be corrupt. Every communist government today, and in the past is so corrupt at its roots that its fucking insane. Look at china, look at north korea, are these places we want to be like? Places where you can literally pay your way out of ANYTHING?

for fucks sake, china's top military leaders are known to be actual organ harvesters from political prisoners, because it buffs up their pay checks considerably. this is not the kind of fucking world anyone should want to live in. And the only reason that china as a whole is still even around is because its adopted capitalist traits such as a free market.

 

If you think that first world countries like the US, UK, and DE are corrupt, try making them communist, then sit back and watch as they become hundreds and even thousands of times more corrupt.

[Swndlr]

There is.

You work or you go to prison.

I don't think you wouldn't work in that case.

Why would people care if they went to prison, they would still have a roof over their head, some type of clothing to wear, contact with other people, and get fed three meals a day. Its basically living the idea of communism without having to do work.

[Nineshadow]

people worked, like shit. Because they had no incentives. Also regulations were stupid, one good example: drivers were getting paid for the amount of fuel they used, so they just spilled the fuel all over the place and got more money.

Romania did just fine during communism. Probably better than it's doing right now.

For the past 30 years there have only been corrupt politicians who've done nothing. That's what caused things to go to shit.

The lack of liberty and all the others things? Yeah...that wasn't great. Still, from an economic , military , infrastructural and maybe even diplomatic point of view, we were better during communism.

[ThatOneRussian]

people commenting on this dont knw anything about communism. period. communism doesnt work because of the people and how humans behave. humanity is not ready for communism because of greed and because poverty is a thing. Communism is a perfect society, it is made for growth and to innovate and expand. There are people if we handpicked and carefully chose  people to move to a communist society. People that arent greedy had no human flaws it would work extremely well. In the soviet union when it existed life was amazing for the people. homeless people didnt exist, unlike in places such as the USA and even in NZ now. It doesnt work because of the theory it doesnt work because of the people.