Intel Skylake 6700k and 6600k confirmed, due Q3 2015

[Dabombinable]

He didn't even mention AMD at all.

 

He's just saying that upgrading from a 3570K still doesn't make any sense, and he's really not wrong.

I as going off what was posted, my point was that Intel is making CPU's worth a damn right now, its AMD who isn't.

[Victorious Secret]

The FX series wasn't worth a damn, even a 'low' end locked Haswell i5 is more the plenty for any game so Intel has shitloads of CPU's that are worth 'a damn'.

 

You're in a place where people think its sustainable to have 20% increases every year. 

 

To someone who has Haswell, the upgrade might not seem worth it. To someone who has Broadwell, it really isn't worth it. But someone running a i7-920? Yea, they might have a compelling performance jump to do so. 

 

I don't know what the fuck people here expect Intel to do. 10% year to year is what they can manage and who knows if its sustainable anymore. Intel makes a lot of CPUs worth a damn. The 4670K was a proper beast, the 5820K is amazing value for a X99 chip. The hell are people smoking. 

[sgloux3470]

I as going off what was posted, my point was that Intel is making CPU's worth a damn right now, its AMD who isn't.

 

You're getting hung up on his wording and missing his point.  Intel isn't competing with anyone, so they're not really trying to impress anyone.  Minor gains can't justify a multi hundred dollar motherboard + CPU swap to anyone who already has a recent generation Intel CPU.

 

 

You're in a place where people think its sustainable to have 20% increases every year. 

 

To someone who has Haswell, the upgrade might not seem worth it. To someone who has Broadwell, it really isn't worth it. But someone running a i7-920? Yea, they might have a compelling performance jump to do so. 

 

I don't know what the fuck people here expect Intel to do. 10% year to year is what they can manage and who knows if its sustainable anymore. Intel makes a lot of CPUs worth a damn. The 4670K was a proper beast, the 5820K is amazing value for a X99 chip. The hell are people smoking. 

 

 

Well, I think a lot of people really wanted them to bring 6 cores to the "consumer grade" CPU's rather than continuing to lock them behind an ethusiast grade paywall.

[BiG StroOnZ]

 

 

 

 

 

That's not how it works.

 

Broadwell is aimed at a completely different market segment than Skylake is.  Broadwell is the same performance at less power, and potentially slightly more overclocking headroom.  Skylake is increasing TDP, but presumably this is going to translate into good overclocking.

 

 

If you follow Intel's pattern, that's how it always works.

 

Even ticks (die shrinks) offer 5% increase in IPC minimum. Just look at Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge, even it offered 10% increase in IPC. I can post Cinebench benchmarks if you'd like.

 

Broadwell is a Die Shrink, therefore it will offer 5% increase in IPC minimum. But most likely more, as Intel is usually on a 10% increase in IPC pattern. Whether it be a tick or a tock minimum. So just because Broadwell will offer better iGPU and power consumption doesn't mean they aren't going to make any IPC gains. And Skylake is a tock, so an actual revision, therefore it will offer definitive IPC gains, whether that will be more than 10% or not is debatable, but at least 10%.

[Dabombinable]

You're getting hung up on his wording and missing his point.  Intel isn't competing with anyone, so they're not really trying to impress anyone.  Minor gains can't justify a multi hundred dollar motherboard + CPU swap to anyone who already has a recent generation Intel CPU.

Just a refresh on what I was talking about:

 

K, going into the cryogenic tube now, I've set the timer for 60 years but if against all odds Intel makes a processor worth a damn before that time, someone unfreeze me.

And what my response was:

 

The FX series wasn't worth a damn, even a 'low' end locked Haswell i5 is more the plenty for any game so Intel has shitloads of CPU's that are worth 'a damn'.

Points:

• Intel is currently making CPU's that are worth a damn, and is continuing to do so
• AMD is the one who is making CPU's that aren't worth a damn.

[alexyy]

I'm planning on upgrading to skylake once its out and sell my Z77 sabertooth board + 3770k. My 980 is being throttled by it

Considering it hasn't been worth upgrading since sandy bridge you're clearly wrong.

[Suika]

so they added one pin. interesting lol

And they removed five pins from Sandy Bridge to Haswell lol.

[Mew]

God damn..... Intel's naming scheme

First gen i5-750, second gen i5-2500k, third gen i5-3570k, forth gen i5-4670k, fifth gen i5-6600k

First gen i7-920/860, second gen i7-2600k, third gen i7-3770k, forth gen i7-4770k, fifth gen i7-6700k

Why can't it be 2500, 3500, 4500, 5500..... wait WHERE DID 5TH GEN GO

[BiG StroOnZ]

God damn..... Intel's naming scheme

First gen i5-750, second gen i5-2500k, third gen i5-3570k, forth gen i5-4670k, fifth gen i5-6600k

First gen i7-920/860, second gen i7-2600k, third gen i7-3770k, forth gen i7-4770k, fifth gen i7-6700k

Why can't it be 2500, 3500, 4500, 5500..... wait WHERE DID 5TH GEN GO

 

Actually the 2700k was the top tier i7 for Sandy Bridge on 1155 and you forgot Broadwell, which is even more random = i5-5675C / i7-5775C.

[SurvivorNVL]

Now they just need to throw us through a loop and surprise!  Intel Core i7 6700KX, the X is because it is a special edition six-core mainstream processor.  I can dream.  

[Mew]

Actually the 2700k was the top tier i7 for Sandy Bridge on 1155 and you forgot Broadwell, which is even more random = i5-5675C / i7-5775C.

 

I'm just listing the most popular cpu at release. That's why I didn't include the 4690k/4790k. Didn't know the Broadwell naming scheme lol but Intel's naming scheme is really awful. 

[DJSchmitty]

This is great news! I have been thinking about upgrading from my Ivy Bridge build, and Sky lake looks like the answer.

[Unhelpful]

I'm planning on upgrading to skylake once its out and sell my Z77 sabertooth board + 3770k. My 980 is being throttled by it

No it isn't.

[Unlikelyjoker]

God damn..... Intel's naming scheme

First gen i5-750, second gen i5-2500k, third gen i5-3570k, forth gen i5-4670k, fifth gen i5-6600k

First gen i7-920/860, second gen i7-2600k, third gen i7-3770k, forth gen i7-4770k, fifth gen i7-6700k

Why can't it be 2500, 3500, 4500, 5500..... wait WHERE DID 5TH GEN GO

i7-4960x i7-4930k, i7-5960x, i7-5930k, i7-5820k.

So its safe to say that Skylake-E will be 7000

[Sanctuary2808]

Hopefully Australian pricing isn't too far away, so I can update my current PC Part Picker list for my future upgrade.

[sgloux3470]

 

Just a refresh on what I was talking about:

 

And what my response was:

 

Points:

• Intel is currently making CPU's that are worth a damn, and is continuing to do so
• AMD is the one who is making CPU's that aren't worth a damn.

 

 

I know you got your fanboy panties in a bunch over his comment, I'm just explaining what he was saying since you missed his point entirely.

[patrickjp93]

According to tests I've run it is. I didn't believe it either.

BS to the nth power. You're either not up to your rated clocks, have a virus stealing CPU time, are getting thermal throttling, are not measuring your GPU usage correctly, are running in PCIe gen 2 mode at only 8x lanes, or have crippled system RAM either in single channel or ultra slow clocks or even both. There's no flipping way a 3770K can bottleneck a 980 when it can't bottleneck a 295x2 going at full tilt on stock clocks. Hell my 2600K at stock clocks can keep a 980 fed.

[patrickjp93]

Maybe DX 12 and Vulkan will surprise me, but I highly doubt 95% of gamers will see a need for more than a quad-core I7 for the next 3 years. I don't see hex-core going Z-series mainstream until 2020, partly because we already have a hex-core chip at the same cost as the top mainstream SKU on the X99 chipset, and DDR4 prices are falling to DDR3 parity at a good rate. I think we're in the dawn of the heterogeneous era, and CPU core counts won't jump again for some time.

 

Maybe if OpenMP takes off in consumer software?

[Demonking]

Well i guess i don't have to upgrade from my 4670K yes mores with this cpu 

[Guest Strangerbob]

another 1% gaming improvement!!! 

 

ASTONISHING! 

[MrSuperb]

Worth upgrading from a 4690k to the 5675c?

 

CPU wise the 5675c probably is a lower tier than the 4690k, but it afaik comes with Iris Pro Graphics.

[The Crazed Child]

Unlocked Broadwell = i7 5xxxC

Unlocked Skylake = i7 6xxxK

 

Logic = None

What's with the change from K to C and back to K for Skylake?

[Giannhs]

So should I upgrade my i5-750 to and i5 4690k or i7 4790k at june or wait till september to go skylake ? 

[mr moose]

So should I upgrade my i5-750 to and i5 4690k or i7 4790k at june or wait till september to go skylake ? 

 

Is your current PC letting you down, going way too slow or unable to run some games/programs to your liking?

 

What I always say, don't wait.  upgrade when you need to, otherwise you may as well wait for the next batch of chips which may be better then you may as well wait until zen, then you may as well wait for Intel's response and so on.

[Giannhs]

Is your current PC letting you down, going way too slow or unable to run some games/programs to your liking?

 

What I always say, don't wait.  upgrade when you need to, otherwise you may as well wait for the next batch of chips which may be better then you may as well wait until zen, then you may as well wait for Intel's response and so on.

yes the pc is terrible i5-750 and gts 250.....  so yeah i will go for the devil's cannon cpus. btw will a gtx 970 bottleneck with the i5 750 ?