possible AMD roadmap and a surprise

[monstercameron]

I'll take this one opcode...

 

 

 

 

note: no source! http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8545&page=63

 

http://apusilicon.com/bulldozers-last-hurrah/

 

note: zen octocore on the fm3 platform!

[Pony080905]

I hope these APUs support crossfire with a dedicated gpu

[MrRavens]

I hope these APUs support crossfire with a dedicated gpu

 

They probably will, if they work sorta the same way they do now.

 

But I'm tired of road maps and rumors lol. Let me get something tangible AMD!

[ApolloX75]

This will be sweet *if* it works and delivers.

I'm liking the fact that both mainstream and high performance share a common socket.

Come on AMD. Time to shine again. Bring your A(thlon 64) game!

[Notional]

I'm looking so much forward to Zen, and I hope we will get to see proper highend motherboards, with modern layouts (no more PCI non express, more M.2 connectors, etc).

 

I must admit though, that the 8 core Summit Ridge is a bit disappointing, as HSA should be the future of compute. If so then it might be a loss to not have built in GPU (you also miss out on a backup if your gaming card craps out). If HSA would work on discrete GPU's, then ok, that might be nice.

[Thony]

"Summit"

Would be super troll if they sponsored him.

[SurvivorNVL]

C'mon AMD... bring me some true, powerful, big ol' 8-cores at less than $1000!  

[ApolloX75]

I saw in an earlier release that all Zen cores are hyperthreaded. So if that turns out to be true then that Summit Ridge is gonna be a wallop.

[SurvivorNVL]

I'm looking so much forward to Zen, and I hope we will get to see proper highend motherboards, with modern layouts (no more PCI non express, more M.2 connectors, etc).

 

I must admit though, that the 8 core Summit Ridge is a bit disappointing, as HSA should be the future of compute. If so then it might be a loss to not have built in GPU (you also miss out on a backup if your gaming card craps out). If HSA would work on discrete GPU's, then ok, that might be nice.

I personally am hoping the new FM3 motherboards for Zen will be in the same league of features, style, and quality as how most of the Haswell / Haswell-e have been.  That and we can probably expect AMD branded DDR4

[deviant88]

I sure hope those are real because it means 1 socket for both apu and cpu and OPTION to choose from pure cpu+ dedicated gpu or just apu it will be great if its true i hope their chipset is great and they dont overcharge for it,i like how amd quality boards are so cheap(real prices), intel just overcharges everything they sell,similar quality boards from amd vs intel costs half the price with quality audio,multiple pci-e etc.

[The Benjamins]

They are going from 4 architectures to 1. excavator, steamroller, piledriver, puma platforms will move to the zen.

[BonSie]

They are going from 4 architectures to 1. excavator, steamroller, piledriver, puma platforms will move to the zen.

5 actually, there is puma and puma+

 

Interesting thins to note:

It will still use a GCN architecture, not its successor.

Summit Ridge is not a SoC, I suspect that there will still be a southbridge on the platform. Which the SOC's hopefully will also be able to use as well. 

Wonder when and in what time space they will arrive.

[Notional]

5 actually, there is puma and puma+

 

Interesting thins to note:

It will still use a GCN architecture, not its successor.

Summit Ridge is not a SoC, I suspect that there will still be a southbridge on the platform. Which the SOC's hopefully will also be able to use as well. 

Wonder when and in what time space they will arrive.

 

GCN doesn't have a successor, just revisions/upgrades. Fiji is GCN too.

[BonSie]

GCN doesn't have a successor, just revisions/upgrades. Fiji is GCN too.

Wasn't there a rumor that Artic Island would have the successor. If yes, that would mean that the APUs would not get it implemented.

[linuxfan66]

I personally am hoping the new FM3 motherboards for Zen will be in the same league of features, style, and quality as how most of the Haswell / Haswell-e have been.  That and we can probably expect AMD branded DDR4

Agreed im sick of the intel performance/efficiency monopoly. Given the entire idea for core was stolen from athlon 64 aguably this is incredibly ironic....

[Notional]

Wasn't there a rumor that Artic Island would have the successor. If yes, that would mean that the APUs would not get it implemented.

 

Not sure really. Some speculate, that there will, but most seems to just call it (Greenland) GCN or next gen GCN. It's too early to say either way, but so far, GCN gets big updates with each generation, so I guess that could just continue.

[Toddwjp]

Agreed im sick of the intel performance/efficiency monopoly. Given the entire idea for core was stolen from athlon 64 aguably this is incredibly ironic....

 

me too, but amd needs to release something

[HalGameGuru]

Agreed im sick of the intel performance/efficiency monopoly. Given the entire idea for core was stolen from athlon 64 aguably this is incredibly ironic....

I don't believe that is accurate. After the P4 fiasco they went back to the P3 and Pentium M system. When the early gen P4s were outperformed by the last gen P3s it got ugly. Athlon 64 was legit, but the Core series was jumping back and racing forward, not leaving their lane. At least according to Darek Mihocka:  http://emulators.com/pentium4.htm

[Opcode]

It's nice to see Bristol Ridge using Zen instead of the speculated Excavator. 2016 is going to be a badass year for AMD. As I expected it looks like AMD is targeting the low power market for a change hitting deals on cell phones and tablets starting this year with Amur. I'm curious as to how well K12 will perform as it has a wider engine than Zen.

[dalekphalm]

It's nice to see Bristol Ridge using Zen instead of the speculated Excavator. 2016 is going to be a badass year for AMD. As I expected it looks like AMD is targeting the low power market for a change hitting deals on cell phones and tablets starting this year with Amur. I'm curious as to how well K12 will perform as it has a wider engine than Zen.

Yeah Amur looks really intriguing. A ~2W ARM based SOC that's been totally redesigned by the guy behind the Apple A-series SOC's?

 

Fuck yeah. That sounds awesome.

[spartaman64]

2W ARM SOC? AMD phones?

[Eroda]

It's nice to see Bristol Ridge using Zen instead of the speculated Excavator. 2016 is going to be a badass year for AMD. As I expected it looks like AMD is targeting the low power market for a change hitting deals on cell phones and tablets starting this year with Amur. I'm curious as to how well K12 will perform as it has a wider engine than Zen.

i cant wait, please be as good as skylake intel AMD please.. i want to switch back so badly, i hope my 930 sticks around for 1 more year  . i mean the system has never been turned off unless the power is out or reboot for updates/new GPU etc so how many cycles has my CPU actually done compared to the typical 930

[Delphi1662]

 

I must admit though, that the 8 core Summit Ridge is a bit disappointing, as HSA should be the future of compute. If so then it might be a loss to not have built in GPU (you also miss out on a backup if your gaming card craps out). If HSA would work on discrete GPU's, then ok, that might be nice.

The way I understood HSA was that the GPU and CPU could work on something in memory without having to copy it around..so there shouldn't be much of a difference between using a discreet gpu or igpu...someone correct me if my interpretation is wrong 

[Notional]

The way I understood HSA was that the GPU and CPU could work on something in memory without having to copy it around..so there shouldn't be much of a difference between using a discreet gpu or igpu...someone correct me if my interpretation is wrong 

 

With HSA, you can move heavy floating point threads from the CPU's pipeline/FPU, onto the iGPU, and use that as a massive parallel compute unit. SO yes, they share memory pools, but it also allows the APU to offload threads to the igpu. I don't think it can do that with a discrete GPU.

[sgloux3470]

Zen topping out at 8 cores is going to be really interesting.  If it does have hyperthreading or some equivalent, we're looking at 8C/16T.  

 

 

Bristol Ridge could be cool too.  I'm really looking forward to seeing how APU's perform with access to DDR4 memory speeds, considering how bottlenecked they are right now by memory.