Experiences with non-techies

[Akolyte]

You can! How?

you talking about the windows Action Center alert?  Just go into action center and click the button that says "turn off alerts about antivirus software"  

[NeatSquidYT]

I used to tell my mom to back up, she didn't... 

 

She had her old XP computer (1GB of RAM, single core, 200GB HDD) for a while 12 years.  And I ran Crystal disk info and it was STILL FINE!!!  But, she needed a new computer so I smashed it up. 

You should've kept the hard drive for a desktop PC for music/photo storage...

[Akolyte]

I guess that is quite lucky. My dad had an office computer which was so PAINFULLY slow. It turned out the drive was shot beyond belief. HD Tach showed read speeds of unbeliveable 2 MB/s, I kid you not. 

lol...  

My moms computer took 30 minutes to boot.  She even used to go out to super market or go to bed and let it boot up so she could use it when she woke up or came back. 

[Akolyte]

You should've kept the hard drive for a desktop PC for music/photo storage...

mate, it was a 200GB hard drive, didn't use sata, it was IDE.  I would never use it.  

[soup]

you talking about the windows Action Center alert?  Just go into action center and click the button that says "turn off alerts about antivirus software"  

 

Took me all of two seconds to find that when I knew what I was looking for.  Had never seen/known about that before.

Ta.

 

Seeing but not registering?

[Akolyte]

Took me all of two seconds to find that when I knew what I was looking for.  Had never seen/known about that before.

Ta.

 

Seeing but not registering?

What do you mean, seeing but not registering?  And your welcome

[terrytek]

you can turn that off.

 

And MSE isn't bad, if you have safe online practices in all reality, theres no need for an antivirus (please don't tell AVG I'm saying this )  Because Chrome and Firefox block malicious downloads and websites, MSE is fine because it has no additional protection than just a database, which is fine.  

How come nobody likes Avast? The best part: IT'S FREE. Also, there is a Hardened Mode, for those non-techies in your life.

[NeatSquidYT]

How come nobody likes Avast? The best part: IT'S FREE. Also, there is a Hardened Mode, for those non-techies in your life.

I like it, but AVG is slightly better IMO

[terrytek]

I like it, but AVG is slightly better IMO

Nope, I still think Avast is better. If you get Premier, you get a whole lot more features, like Data Shredder, Privacy Browsing, and ID Theft Protection.

[steffen_anywhere]

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My head of grade's hard drive died today. He did have a backup. Had it up and running again after half a day in school...This is a MacBook we are talking about, so not every used is this intelligent. I've witnessed soooo many cases of people losing everything the have because they never backed shit up... stupid

[Speedbird]

Why someone would pirate a 32bit version when their hardware supports and they can just as easily get the 64bit version is beyond me :unsure:

Probably because those PCs had 32-bit Windows Vista installed (WTF HP?). And I believe their chipset is limited to 4GB of DDR2.

 

Also, my dad still thinks that his Core 2 Duo is 32-bit, even after I've told him several times that it is not.

[Riddler356]

you can turn that off.

 

And MSE isn't bad, if you have safe online practices in all reality, theres no need for an antivirus (please don't tell AVG I'm saying this )  Because Chrome and Firefox block malicious downloads and websites, MSE is fine because it has no additional protection than just a database, which is fine.  

 

thats all i use, my habits aren't safe, but they aren't dangerous either. I do dangerous things that others would get viruses from, but i do it in a way where I only get what I won't and carefully avoind the malware.

[Akolyte]

Nope, I still think Avast is better. If you get Premier, you get a whole lot more features, like Data Shredder, Privacy Browsing, and ID Theft Protection.

Avg free has identity protection and a free tuneup/privacy clean

[flibberdipper]

Here's a good one. My mom was using Xubuntu 12.04 LTS for about a year, and didn't really have any problems other than a couple messed up repositories. My sister hasn't even been using Elementary OS .2 for a month, and it already has a ton of problems. And my sister claims she knows more than mom on that computer.

[Akolyte]

How come nobody likes Avast? The best part: IT'S FREE. Also, there is a Hardened Mode, for those non-techies in your life.

Hardend mode = block everything not on whitelist. That's dumb, like literally. We want antivirus software that can easily find malware on its own without a blacklist or whitelist. Plus avast heuristics suck and their deep screen is useless. Also too, if you knew how mean and rude avast was to us. I doubt you would see them the same way again. Its a fact. Avast copied our product and changed it slightly. Competition is good, but literally avast copies all of avgs Facebook articles... Like literally 1 hour later.

[b45op]

thats all i use, my habits aren't safe, but they aren't dangerous either. I do dangerous things that others would get viruses from, but i do it in a way where I only get what I won't and carefully avoind the malware.

 

if you are going to do anything err risky just make yourself a vm... if you do that MSE is really not bad and lets face it, it gives you more protection than nothing.

 

Probably because those PCs had 32-bit Windows Vista installed (WTF HP?). And I believe their chipset is limited to 4GB of DDR2.

 

Also, my dad still thinks that his Core 2 Duo is 32-bit, even after I've told him several times that it is not.

 

Dad's tend to believe things like that even if it makes sense or not but hey at least your dad knows that its at least 32bit.

 

Here's a good one. My mom was using Xubuntu 12.04 LTS for about a year, and didn't really have any problems other than a couple messed up repositories. My sister hasn't even been using Elementary OS .2 for a month, and it already has a ton of problems. And my sister claims she knows more than mom on that computer.

 

There's your problem, because she thinks she knows she has been playing with things she shouldn't just give her a live disk with no install media.

[flibberdipper]

if you are going to do anything err risky just make yourself a vm... if you do that MSE is really not bad and lets face it, it gives you more protection than nothing.

 

 

Dad's tend to believe things like that even if it makes sense or not but hey at least your dad knows that its at least 32bit.

 

 

There's your problem, because she thinks she knows she has been playing with things she shouldn't just give her a live disk with no install media.

Sadly, she hasn't touched anything. Other than Firefox, GBrainy, and Cheese.

[Akolyte]

thats all i use, my habits aren't safe, but they aren't dangerous either. I do dangerous things that others would get viruses from, but i do it in a way where I only get what I won't and carefully avoind the malware.

That's VERY hard to do. If your on a webpage with a 3rd party ad service, just from that ad being on the page can inject malicious code into your computer. Not only that you never know when you might get infected. Just as long as you use a script and flash blocker you should be fine

[b45op]

Sadly, she hasn't touched anything. Other than Firefox, GBrainy, and Cheese.

 

picture cheese smashed into the dvd rom and or keyboard mmmm cheddar... haha yes I know I know not that cheese. I can almost bet she has touched other stuff because you cant break Xubuntu just using those programs unless it was an unstable install, driver issues or some such.

[colonel_mortis]

That's VERY hard to do. If your on a webpage with a 3rd party ad service, just from that ad being on the page can inject malicious code into your computer. Not only that you never know when you might get infected. Just as long as you use a script and flash blocker you should be fine

The ad can only infect the page if you use vulnerable plugins (that contain bugs which allow the ad to execute code outside of its sandbox), but if you keep stuff like flash player up to date then you'll be fine.

[flibberdipper]

picture cheese smashed into the dvd rom and or keyboard mmmm cheddar... haha yes I know I know not that cheese. I can almost bet she has touched other stuff because you cant break Xubuntu just using those programs unless it was an unstable install, driver issues or some such.

Nope. Nothing else has been fiddled with. Not even the wallpaper.

[WinNut]

So yesterday I was at my grandfather's house, I decided to go on his laptop to simply browse BVEstation.com and see some updates. He saw me just on his computer, right past logging in, and screamed at me, saying that I would mess up his computer and then it would revert to English (it's in Chinese.) Me=FACEPALM
 

Just before he yelled at me, I realized that his computer was SO FUCKED UP that I couldn't use if even if I wanted to. He doesn't read English and parts of the OS are in English, so he clicks on random shit like ads and weird things like that. It's a touchscreen Haswell Pentium laptop with 4GB of RAM and Windows 8, the poor thing is so messed up that you can't even type on the keyboard, if you do some virus on it will just make an annoying "ding" sound. When I opened it, there was some YouTube video with Chinese characters (I don't read Chinese BTW) and some English, the English part said "Wet Nurse- [insert Chinese here]. One time before that there was a random ad for "Why Men Watch Porn." I have gave up on that laptop. 

[b45op]

Nope. Nothing else has been fiddled with. Not even the wallpaper.

 

she's a wizard harry!

[flibberdipper]

she's a wizard harry!

She's special alright.

[Akolyte]

The ad can only infect the page if you use vulnerable plugins (that contain bugs which allow the ad to execute code outside of its sandbox), but if you keep stuff like flash player up to date then you'll be fine.

Sometimes. It can use your browser too, if your using older sandbox software it can have vulnerabilities too. And your right, your usually fine when you keep up to date. The problem is allot of people ignore updates, and because antivirus software isn't designed to protect third party applications the exploit makes itself at home and downloads malware to the victim. Seen it so many times