I have an idea to solve cable management

[Speedbird]

The cutouts aren't standard, and someone could be using a new motherboard in an old case. Your idea would break the ATX standard.

[Foxxer]

Don't see why not.

[simson0606]

there are people who modded their mobo that way, they soldered a 24 pin extension to the back of the mobo. it looked pretty clean, but it always seemed like there was something missing.

 

also you'd have issues with case compatibility

[ADM-Ntek]

The cutouts aren't standard, and someone could be using a new motherboard in an old case. Your idea would break the ATX standard.

 

correct and same goes for the ports on the mainboard. the only way to make this work would probably be to either leave free space behind the board or turn the tray into swiss cheese.

[elecxonica]

For making the cases, a huge CPU cut out would be sufficient for most designs.

But then you'd have the huge issue of structural integrity in the case. As interesting as an idea this is, it's not practical at the moment.

[Sousuke]

Only if all the mobo manufacturers made a standard layout of cables and slim line cables are made standard and/or Case Manufacturers add connectors onto the motherboard tray (Would also allow for a lower amount of screws). 

 

However that would be impossible due to cost and the difference in Motherboard Sizes and the cost of doing double sided boards.

[gergy008]

The main problem with having the connectors on the rear of the board compared to the front is how the circuitry is laid out. If they were to reverse the connectors to the rear, the circuitry would have to be completely redone around those areas, which inherently will result in higher costs, due to more design work. Stick to a formula that works, and try to get it to a cheaper point, and improving upon it, rather than going a different direction. Reversing the connectors would also result in a new motherboard standard. It would no longer be ATX, mATX and ITX, as it would have a different layout overall

 

New standard, you're right. But here is a diagram of where I believe the components on the new standard are best placed. I wish I could give it the layout of the BTX, which truly did re-think everything and is more suited to a more modern system.

 

warning: Big image

[xvantok]

I trust the engineers know what the hell they're doing when they design these boards.

Well if you saw  the video of the nvidia engineer during the 970 scandal, its questionable!

[gergy008]

there are people who modded their mobo that way, they soldered a 24 pin extension to the back of the mobo. it looked pretty clean, but it always seemed like there was something missing.

 

also you'd have issues with case compatibility

 

Yes, but cases that are designed specifically for the motherboard would be fine. Or it could just me a modders commodity in which the modders would specifically cut holes for the board connectors. 

 

But then you'd have the huge issue of structural integrity in the case. As interesting as an idea this is, it's not practical at the moment.

 

If the rest of the case is designed well, a swiss cheese mobo would be very stable as it has other case parts keeping the case ridgid. Also there ways to make motherboard trays stable by folding the metal in certain ways.

 

 

Only if all the mobo manufacturers made a standard layout of cables and slim line cables are made standard and/or Case Manufacturers add connectors onto the motherboard tray (Would also allow for a lower amount of screws). 

 

However that would be impossible due to cost and the difference in Motherboard Sizes and the cost of doing double sided boards.

 

I wouldn't say impossible, but if all the locations are standardised correctly there could be some sort of flexibility for where the connectors could go.

[xvantok]

New standard, you're right. But here is a diagram of where I believe the components on the new standard are best placed. I wish I could give it the layout of the BTX, which truly did re-think everything and is more suited to a more modern system.

 

warning: Big image

Good idea, but, It would be interesting to see why engineers originally designed boards to have everything ont he front.  and even if this board wasnt as widely used as for instance ATX, it would be cool to see it be like eATX, not as widely used, but still exists. 

I think it would make sense, but would push prices of motherboards higher,  as it would make the manufacturing process more expensive, and it would also make designing a case more expensive as you have to leave more room on the rear side as well as having to install cutouts on the rear side.  This would likely push case prices up.

 

It would be interesting, if someones got some spair time to design, using a PCB designing software, a prototype of it

[gergy008]

Good idea, but, It would be interesting to see why engineers originally designed boards to have everything ont he front.  and even if this board wasnt as widely used as for instance ATX, it would be cool to see it be like eATX, not as widely used, but still exists. 

I think it would make sense, but would push prices of motherboards higher,  as it would make the manufacturing process more expensive, and it would also make designing a case more expensive as you have to leave more room on the rear side as well as having to install cutouts on the rear side.  This would likely push case prices up.

 

It would be interesting, if someones got some spare* time to design, using a PCB designing software, a prototype of it

 

For some people the cost of aesthetics like this are totally worth. I mean, it also has other practical uses. If all ports are standardised then the entire board is plug and replace.

[Jaybird]

2 words: Texas Whopper

[gergy008]

2 words: Texas Whopper

 

yes.

I've not had a whopper in months. On purpose. Because when I do have one, oh boy

[xvantok]

For some people the cost of aesthetics like this are totally worth. I mean, it also has other practical uses. If all ports are standardised then the entire board is plug and replace.

I think it would work and could be standardised, however, for it to work, you would have to have several case and motherboard companies release there new rATX products (get it? rATX/Rear ATX? cause the ports are on the rear?) aswell as cables becoming cheap and widely available for right angle connectors!

man I kinda want to write a wikipage on this!

[Thony]

Make it Wireless

#problemSolved

Wireless Monitors we need

They cause the biggest mess on my desk

[Arty]

Wireless Monitors we need

They cause the biggest mess on my desk

You can Do it

But i think thier is a little bit of ms delay

[Thony]

You can Do it

But i think thier is a little bit of ms delay

Thats why nobodya doimg it, its not working well. Our wireless technology is too bad for thing that need to have super low ms response time.

[Arty]

Thats why nobodya doimg it, its not working well. Our wireless technology is too bad for thing that need to have super low ms response time.

You Can't Game, But Reading websites, and Maybe movies would work

Gotta Watch Youtube and see how well the new ones are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRblAyf7bIw

pls

i wanna see @LinusTech Test this

now they need to make it smaller

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

No, really bad idea.

[Hackzzila]

It would suck for test bench users though...

[christianled59]

Hmm. It probably could work, but I wouldn't like it. If cables are done well, they can improve the look of a build. Having the cables completely hidden can make builds look empty. 

 

It would also require a who new standard of cases and such.

Or they could use really big standoffs and cut out a bigger whole behind the motherboard.

[BurgerBum]

wireless is dumb and stupid. seriously. it is. 

 

i thingk this is a good idea, but only for cubed cases... or just make regular cases a few inches thicker in the back side. 

[McMurderMonkey]

Case strength? Room for connectors/cables? Remains to be seen how this would work, but yeah, sounds like a pretty neat idea.

[Norman_the_Owl]

But then computers will look so boring.

Stuff like your 24 pin snaking in, and your CPU power in the top right add character if done correctly.

[Ertman]

The added complexity, expense and difficulty To the design, manufacturing and system building do not make this idea worthwhile.