5820k vs. 4790k Which one?

[Guest]

I will be gaming and probably going to get a gtx 980.

But which one should i get?  and i would like the pc to last 5 years plus.

 

is the extra like $50 worth for the 2 extra cores or is it worth it for the for the higher clock speed?

[Fate]

It's not only $50 extra.

The boards are more expensive and the RAM is more expensive.

 

Get the 4790k.

[theloveablemoose]

Games barely use 4 cores so no it's not worth it.

[Guest]

It's not only $50 extra.

The boards are more expensive and the RAM is more expensive.

 

Get the 4790k.

Ya true but that ddr4 and those awesome mobos :-)

[MrRavens]

Unless you got the money or are willing to wait and save up more. Just go with the 4790k honestly lol.

[the jolly roger]

It's not only $50 extra.

The boards are more expensive and the RAM is more expensive.

 

Get the 4790k.

DDR4 is expensive, but the new asrock x99 pro 3 is just 190$

[justintech16]

For your purposes, I would recommend the 4790k.

If you want really want that ddr4 and cool mobo, then fine. But just know that you aren't going to experience anything better than a 4790k could do.

[handymanshandle]

Gaming - Save $50+

Content Creation - Pay the extra $50+

[ltguy]

Go with the lga1150. I have a 2011 and games just dont use all them threads.

[MegaDave91]

5820k for the extra PCIe lanes - only if you need them.

[D3MON]

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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dPmV23

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CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($374.75 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($194.99 @ Amazon) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($193.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $763.73

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($319.00 @ Amazon) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($109.00 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($166.77 @ TigerDirect) 

Total: $594.77

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$150, well you gotta ask yourself do you want 50% more power for 28% more cost.
there's no such thing as a rig thats too powerful, all most of us need is a core i5/phenom quad and we're done but if you have a need for an i7 you might aswell get the i7-E, its the same architecture and yeah sure ddr4 prices will kick you in the knees (otherwise id have a 5820k by now) and 16gb of ram is way overkill for most gaming pc's atleast you'll be good for the 5-10 years which on a $/year basis works out to be great value.

[Faceman]

Its going to end up costing you a lot more than $50.  You have to factor in more expensive motherboard and DDR4 RAM. 

 

For gaming, all you need is an i5, an i7 is overkill and will easily last you 5+ years.

[SurvivorNVL]

If you game and you only game and don't have other stuff going in the background constantly - an i5 should do you justice.  If you like to multi-task, tons of chrome tabs, steam game, a live stream on your second monitor and a youtube video on your third at 1080p or even 1440p and all this while an antivirus scan is running - 5820k.  x99 is aimed at enthusiasts and creators, but for consumers who can shell out the extra money and are prosumers as well as heavy multitaskers - those extra cores and threads lighten the load.  As for the clockspeed of the 4790k vs the 5820k - the extra cores make up for the speed in multi-threaded applications.  In single threaded ones you can just overclock to 4.2ghz and be set for a good few years.  Also the x99 will be better for multiple GPU setups and an eventual m.2 SSD or raid card.  That and the x99 will -technically- last longer in terms of relevance as DirectX 12 is likely to slowly integrate more and more cores in to games that utilize it.  So, my vote is the x99 and @D3MON 's post is awesome.  50% more power(2 more cores) and only 10% more cost.

[Spev]

Ya true but that ddr4 and those awesome mobos :-)

DDR4 is not worth it AT ALL for gaming.........go with a Z97 motherboard and 4790k. That's what I did and I don't regret it at all, and my games play better compared to my older 6 core processor. The x99 platform is more made for content and media creation, that is something I would get if I was doing that on the daily or as my job.

[Zach's Tech Tips]

I will be gaming and probably going to get a gtx 980.

But which one should i get?  and i would like the pc to last 5 years plus.

 

is the extra like $50 worth for the 2 extra cores or is it worth it for the for the higher clock speed?

Pros and cons of getting a 5820k

 

Pros

 

• you get more pci-e lanes 28 were as 4790k has 16 (more lanes = more gpu's) 28 = up to 3 gpu's
• even though the 4790k has a higher clock speed you can easily overclock the 5820k 4.2ghz+
• the extra 2 cores are amazing for video editting

Cons

 

• ddr4 ram is not that cheap compared to ddr3
• the x99 motherboards are much more expensive (except the msi sli plus which is very resonably priced)
• it would be ideal to get a water cooler over a air cooler

Well there you go. Personally i would get a 5820k if you have the extra cash. i have one myself and i love it!

 

Hoped this helped 

 

Wolffangs147

[Fate]

all most of us need is a core i5/phenom quad and we're done

Modern i5's are way better than Phenom II's.

My 3570k at stock absolutely destroys my 960T in games at 3GHz, 3.8GHz, and unlocked to six cores @ 3.4GHz.

Maybe an 1100T with a serious overclock could keep up, but I doubt it.

[i_build_nanosuits]

the 4790K is A LOT cheaper if you consider the cost for the whole platform...it also run's faster and overclock better and will be all you need for gaming for years to come...here's the two platform cost, i went with ''cheap'' RAM and motherboard for X99 and for Z97 it's a good set that support SLI and all the features one might want...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.00 @ Amazon)

Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Plus ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($90.50 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($120.98 @ Newegg)

Total: $530.48

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($374.94 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($194.99 @ Amazon)

Memory: A-Data XPG Z1 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($219.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $789.92

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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Also for gaming 8GB of RAM is all you need, and if you happen to live near a microcenter you can grab the i7-4790K and ASUS Z97-AR motherboard for 349$

[D3MON]

Modern i5's are way better than Phenom II's.

My 3570k at stock absolutely destroys my 960T in games at 3GHz, 3.8GHz, and unlocked to six cores @ 3.4GHz.

Maybe an 1100T with a serious overclock could keep up, but I doubt it.

at what point did i say they we're equal?

im just stating that most people are okay with a quad core of any sort, heck even some people are fine with an i3 or fx4 series cpu for gaming.

you dont pay a few hundred bucks for your gpu not to be used so most good games are gpu limited and the cpu makes little difference

http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page6.html

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/27/battlefield-4-performance-analysis/8

[D3MON]

the 4790K is A LOT cheaper if you consider the cost for the whole platform...it also run's faster and overclock better and will be all you need for gaming for years to come...here's the two platform cost, i went with ''cheap'' RAM and motherboard for X99 and for Z97 it's a good set that support SLI and all the features one might want...

beat ya to it but they're both haswell based so they will overclock the same so long as cooling isn't a factor, its kind of like saying a pentium-k is better than a 4690k because it'll overclock higher.

dinky little chips overclock balls-to-the-walls because of the low power draw and thermals aren't going to be a factor,but seeing as the 2011 spec is more expensive anyhow a bit more on cooling can be spent without hurting the bang/buck ratio, yes its overkill as is 16gb of ram so technically from the what you pay for/what you need perspective its a bad idea but if we all followed that idea we'd have much lower spec'd rigs as a general rule, everyone knows an i7 is pointless over an i5 for gaming, " oh but i do some rendering aswell and need the threads" well get 2011 then, the question answers itself.

I loved my phenoms they were bad-ass so going to an fx8 makes little sense untill it comes to those few times i transcode and there is is a 100% improvement for the sake of £40. my 0.02c

[D3MON]

If you game and you only game and don't have other stuff going in the background constantly - an i5 should do you justice.  If you like to multi-task, tons of chrome tabs, steam game, a live stream on your second monitor and a youtube video on your third at 1080p or even 1440p and all this while an antivirus scan is running - 5820k.  x99 is aimed at enthusiasts and creators, but for consumers who can shell out the extra money and are prosumers as well as heavy multitaskers - those extra cores and threads lighten the load.  As for the clockspeed of the 4790k vs the 5820k - the extra cores make up for the speed in multi-threaded applications.  In single threaded ones you can just overclock to 4.2ghz and be set for a good few years.  Also the x99 will be better for multiple GPU setups and an eventual m.2 SSD or raid card.  That and the x99 will -technically- last longer in terms of relevance as DirectX 12 is likely to slowly integrate more and more cores in to games that utilize it.  So, my vote is the x99 and @D3MON 's post is awesome.  50% more power(2 more cores) and only 10% more cost.

thanks for the props, ok it doesn't work out to be 10% its more like 28.4% more and that doesnt include a cooler (h100i???) but even then its probably 30% and considering he'll get NO additional performance in games logically its a bad move, unless you account the "must last me 5+ years thing" in which case maybe its a safer bet but then again who knows what the future holds (i say more parallel personally), then again most of us have the upgrade bug and upgrade after 2-3 years anyway in which case what you buy now makes no difference.

but for gaming why buy an i7 at all (all i ever hear is how awesome the pentium-k is and how all games are single threaded, linus disproved that recently) as far as im concerned if you are doing something single threaded=Pen-k OC'd, multi threaded cheap=fx8, multi threaded gaming and dont care=i5, heavily threaded adn demanding and will pay for itself, 5820k every day.

its a 4960x with 5% better IPC and 5% worse overclocking but for 33% of the price.

[Analog]

I don't think that you will see that much of a performance increase in gaming. Games are just beginning to use 4 cores. DX12 is not out yet so no one knows if we are going to get some decent multi-thread optimizations at all. By the time games start utilizing all 6-cores of that 5820K, it will be so old that you will have to upgrade anyway. Also you have to factor in the cost of some decent DDR4 RAM. I myself just spent a shit ton of money on a 4x4GB 3000MHz kit. If you are on a budget it's not a good idea to go X99 IMO. I would much rather buy 2x GTX970s than going with a 5820K.  

[Ahimoth]

If you can afford it, get it. Simple as that, at $50 more it's a no brainer for the CPU but then it's the motherboard. If you were planning on getting a high end 1150 motherboard than a high end 2011-3 motherboard isn't that much more expensive. I would hold off on going crazy with the ram right now, honestly until bigger and cheaper kits come out DDR-4 just isn't a smart purchase. 

 

5820k the only CPU you'll need

High end motherboard - something which will carry you for a while.

Lower end DDR4 ram.

[asim1999]

4790K for gaming

5820K for hhigh-end video editing ( Premier pro, Lightworks etc)

[i_build_nanosuits]

everyone knows an i7 is pointless over an i5 for gaming, " oh but i do some rendering aswell and need the threads" well get 2011 then, the question answers itself.

are you serious? you see no point in the i7-4790K CPU then?! OMG :huh:

Many games released this year do benefit from the extra threads and i can tell you that they run smoother and more consistent framerates when i have HT turned on...and also it helps a lot with multi-threaded workloads and multi-tasking...and in many case this cpu is only like 60 or 70$ more than the i5...might as well get it IMHO...also this CPU comes with a boost of 4.4ghz out of the box so one does not have to do overclocking on it for it to outperform the 3.5gfhz i5...and if you ever want to do overclocking it's good as well it being a binned chip from intel that is guaranteed to at least hit 4.4ghz it should reach high frequencies...the bad chips are sold as locked i7-4790..and many i5's won't even reach 4.4ghz.

[typographie]

Ya true but that ddr4 and those awesome mobos :-)

 

DDR4 versus high-end DDR3 is a wash due to DDR4's much looser timings, and that's never really mattered for gaming performance anyway. The extra features of X99 are "awesome" if you're actually going to use all those PCIe lanes, but otherwise it's an awful lot more money for not much benefit.

 

Go with X99 if you intend to go with a triple-SLI/Crossfire config, or if you're a professional content creator who can put a financial benefit on a 6-core processor. For gaming with a single card (or, honestly, even dual) go with Z97.