LTT Official Folding Month VI

[Taene]

Dang it. I wont reach the top50 today. Internet down all day . Luckily, it's just a power line maintenance, so i'll be back soon to fold 0-24.

[soccermomisqueen]

6 hours ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Can you keep it plugged into mains power during the presentation?  Its unlikely it will interfere if so.   It would at least reduce the point loss.  Even if you had no Internet it should continue the WU it already has and upload it once you can connect again.

Unfortunately I am going to be at a presentation that has no access to mains. I need all of the battery power I can muster...

[Windows7ge]

8 hours ago, Justaphf said:

The service has to be completely stopped if you are directly editing the config files.  I fought with this issue for several rounds the first time I set up a Linux box until I figured that out.

For Linux I modified the config files directly. It should not matter if the file was modified hot it's only read-in once. So long as I restarted the fahclient.service or rebooted the whole VM the new passkey should be read-in either way. If that wasn't the case then when I added remote management that shouldn't have worked.

 

@leadeater I'll give it a few days but I'm still <50% what I'd expect to see. That very first big peak on my chart? 900K something? That was one Tesla P4, and my 7551P. Since then I added a second P4 & a pair of 2698v3's and I'm averaging less with double the hardware so...

[HoldSquat]

1 hour ago, Oestle said:

I think my Pi 4 is only getting around 3500-4000 PPD and the jobs usually take around 2 days. (not overclocked, didn't seem to be very stable for me)

So i'm curious what it'll look like with the Pi 5 you have here.

Ill work on it tonight and we'll see. I might have to set it up headless because I can't find my micro hdmi to hdmi cable

[Alex Atkin UK]

29 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

For Linux I modified the config files directly. It should not matter if the file was modified hot it's only read-in once. So long as I restarted the fahclient.service or rebooted the whole VM the new passkey should be read-in either way. If that wasn't the case then when I added remote management that shouldn't have worked.

 

@leadeater I'll give it a few days but I'm still <50% what I'd expect to see. That very first big peak on my chart? 900K something? That was one Tesla P4, and my 7551P. Since then I added a second P4 & a pair of 2698v3's and I'm averaging less with double the hardware so...

Like they said, FAHClient writes the config file when you terminate the process so if you modify it while still running it will restore the old configuration when you restart the service.

[Captainmarino]

8 hours ago, soccermomisqueen said:

You know... It just occured to me that I am going to be missing out on a considerable amount of points in the next 24 hours

 

I have a presentation that I need my laptop for, and that is the only client running on my account.

 

This was just when I had gotten my performance tuned to get a consistent 3-3.5 MPPD with my laptop 3070 (GPU only folding since I need my CPU for other things)

3-3.5 MPPD from a laptop?! 

 

I get that from a 1660S and 6700XT... combined!

[Captainmarino]

6 hours ago, RollinLower said:

oh i have those open too, usually when folding i have tmux open in ssh with everything i want to see like this:

 

shield your eyes!

[Captainmarino]

4 hours ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

I really didn't want to say but in the spirit of fair competition, it seems this years prime PPD project is Cancer.

 

Really wouldn't hurt if we cured Cancer while were at it.

Woahhhhhh, but I'd be out of a job. Oh hell, I'll find something else to do with my degree. F*#& cancer! 

[Alex Atkin UK]

5 minutes ago, Captainmarino said:

Woahhhhhh, but I'd be out of a job. Oh hell, I'll find something else to do with my degree. F*#& cancer! 

So YOU'RE that one person people refer to when they say "Big pharma don't want to cure Cancer, its too profitable!"?

[Kilrah]

Nvidia Broadcast still makes folding take quite a hit, but I need to work 

[Windows7ge]

1 hour ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Like they said, FAHClient writes the config file when you terminate the process so if you modify it while still running it will restore the old configuration when you restart the service.

Wait, but if that's the case is my new passkey even working? Do I have to stop the service/start the service to read-in the config file? A system restart isn't sufficient?

[Mxyzptlk]

5 hours ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

I really didn't want to say but in the spirit of fair competition, it seems this years prime PPD project is Cancer.

 

Really wouldn't hurt if we cured Cancer while were at it.

Although the Cancer WU's have greatly improved in PPD since last year!

[GOTSpectrum]

On 11/5/2023 at 8:21 PM, GOTSpectrum said:

Not folding related, but I sent off a form to adopt a 17-week-old kitten that was abandoned at a cattery today! 

 

They want me to meet the kitten!!!!

 

Just realised I'll need to buy a litter tray, bonnie goes outside and noonie did the same 

[Justaphf]

2 hours ago, Windows7ge said:

For Linux I modified the config files directly. It should not matter if the file was modified hot it's only read-in once. So long as I restarted the fahclient.service or rebooted the whole VM the new passkey should be read-in either way. If that wasn't the case then when I added remote management that shouldn't have worked.

The issue that I've encountered is that when you shut down/restart the service it seems like it writes the in-memory config to the file.  So when I shutdown/restart the service, any manual hot writes I made directly to the file gets overwritten.  It also writes to the file every time you pause/unpause a slot (paused flag is stored in the config file for slots as one of the advanced tags) as well as other general edits through the UI.  Because of this my standard procedure when setting up new machines is to install, use the UI to add/remove the slots I want (so it gets the right pci-bus and pci-slot values for GPUs), stop the service, edit the config, take a backup of the edited config, start the service.  This is how I figured out if I edit the config then stop the service my recent edits get lost (by diffing the active vs the backup config).

 

Edit: Should have read to the end of the thread instead of immediately responding, looks like @Alex Atkin UK already caught this.

[Heats with Nvidia]

26 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

They want me to meet the kitten!!!!

 

Just realised I'll need to buy a litter tray, bonnie goes outside and noonie did the same 

Thats really funny, i once had a black and white (mostly black) cat named Bonnie. I really loved her and she knew how to use door handles. I hope she gets along with the other cats and you have a good time with each other.

[GOTSpectrum]

1 minute ago, Heats with Nvidia said:

Thats really funny, i once had a black and white (mostly black) cat named Bonnie. I really loved her and she knew how to use door handles. I hope she gets along with the other cats and you have a good time with each other.

This is Bonnie inspecting my microphone delivery 

[ImWilly]

2 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

This is Bonnie inspecting my microphone delivery 

Thank God it's the XLR version of AT2020

[GOTSpectrum]

2 minutes ago, ImWilly said:

Thank God it's the XLR version of AT2020

Funnily enough that's exactly what she said /s 

[Alex Atkin UK]

22 minutes ago, Heats with Nvidia said:

Thats really funny, i once had a black and white (mostly black) cat named Bonnie. I really loved her and she knew how to use door handles. I hope she gets along with the other cats and you have a good time with each other.

Our current cat is the first entirely house cat we've had.  Since neither of us work shes so pandered to I found her stuck in a room this morning that the door doesn't even have a catch.  Mum had closed it not knowing she was in there and the cat is too lazy to learn how to pull open a door from the gap underneath.  She could have been in there hours.

[Baha]

I neglected to take a picture, because I had other concerns, but I do have a brief story time to share now.

My server was mysteriously completely turned off this morning. I took the side panel off, and I found that some of the motherboard screws had completely fallen out. I assume one of them caused a temporary short, and prompted the shutdown. Thankfully, nothing seems to have been actually harmed, I reinstalled them, tightened up all the remaining ones because they were also loose, and it booted right back up just fine.

It took me a little while to piece together what could have caused it, given that I haven't changed much about the hardware itself in quite some time, but I'm pretty sure I've got it after a little testing: I ran laundry overnight.

I live in a reasonably small apartment, with in-unit laundry. I don't have a lot of places to put the server, so it's currently against the wall of the closet that the washer and dryer are in. I tried putting a ball on top of the server, and when running the washer, the vibrations carried through the floor enough to immediately roll the ball right off the top, even though they aren't particularly strong at the base. It was specifically the top three motherboard screws that fell out completely. I think the vibrations have been slowly shaking all the screws in the machine loose over the course of the last year.

Running my laundry overnight nearly shook my server to death. Needless to say, I'll be moving it now. And tightening every screw in the machine.

[Heats with Nvidia]

12 minutes ago, Baha said:

Running my laundry overnight nearly shook my server to death. Needless to say, I'll be moving it now. And tightening every screw in the machine.

Vibrations can be really deadly for electronics. Thats why, for example, in PA loudspeakers every electronic component on the crossover needs to either be glued on or really well bolted down. If you don`t do that properly, they over time will just fall off or break apart.

[Gorgon]

14 minutes ago, Baha said:

I... Running my laundry overnight nearly shook my server to death. Needless to say, I'll be moving it now. And tightening every screw in the machine.

or procure some Loctite Threadlocker 242 Blue.

[Baha]

1 minute ago, Gorgon said:

or procure some Loctite Threadlocker 242 Blue.

This is a good shout! If I can't just find another good spot to put it I'll have to do that. My thought process is somewhat that -- if there are strong enough vibrations to shake screws loose, I'm probably not doing great things to the health of the bulk storage drives in the machine. They're enterprise drives with vibration sensors, which should theoretically help to some extent, but if I can find another spot for the bulky thing that'd be the better option.

[Dark_Hunter]

6 hours ago, HoldSquat said:

Hows the Pi doing? About to start up this bad boy

It's doing pretty good for a small little thing. 

[RollinLower]

The day has finally come. Power costs just too much to run my systems at home. This months projected power bill is almost 850 euros...

 

So i moved my main F@H box to the Datacenter!

 

now with the added benefit of fans that can run on 100% and uncapped powerbudgets