Tesla driver kicks out window to escape car fire

[LWM723]

What a dumb design this is. It's unbelievable that this passed safety standards. https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-tesla-driver-kicks-out-window-to-escape-car-fire-1.5914147

[Heliian]

There is a manual door release but i guess they don't advertise that feature.   

 

I'm going to ask my buddy next week if he knows about it on his car.

 

 

[WhitetailAni]

7 hours ago, LWM723 said:

What a dumb design this is. It's unbelievable that this passed safety standards. https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-tesla-driver-kicks-out-window-to-escape-car-fire-1.5914147

Would you rather the man die then?

[DANK_AS_gay]

5 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

Would you rather the man die then?

He is saying that the fact that the man could not leave the vehicle without kicking out the window is problematic. Not that the window should not have broken.

[LWM723]

Probably many owners don't know about the manual method.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

A simple label would've gone a long way. Corvettes have had electric doors for well over a decade, so it ain't new technology. 

 

Unfortunately, no such symbol exists on the Model 3/Y.

 

Might as well include one of these in the door cards... 
 

Spoiler

 

[kpluck]

2 hours ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Corvettes have had electric doors for well over a decade, so it ain't new technology. 

And yet a Corvette owner and his dog died in a vette because the owner didn't understand how to manually open the door. At some point people need to start taking responsibility for the problems that they create.

 

-kp

[Middcore]

7 hours ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

A simple label would've gone a long way. Corvettes have had electric doors for well over a decade, so it ain't new technology. 

 

Unfortunately, no such symbol exists on the Model 3/Y.

 

Might as well include one of these in the door cards... 
 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

"Only front doors are equipped with a manual door release."

 

Back seat passengers be like

 

[MadAnt250]

On 5/23/2022 at 2:07 PM, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Unfortunately, no such symbol exists on the Model 3/Y.

They need to build cars correctly that do not need electricity to normally open the doors. The fact that Tesla did not have an easy to identify emergency door release is appalling.

[AudiTTFan]

On 5/23/2022 at 4:35 AM, LWM723 said:

What a dumb design this is. It's unbelievable that this passed safety standards. https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-tesla-driver-kicks-out-window-to-escape-car-fire-1.5914147

The 6th-gen Corvettes (2005-2013) and later have this, and I've always considered it one of the worst features in any car. It's even worse now that more automakers decided to adopt this stupid gimmick

 

EDIT: Someone already mentioned this

Edited May 25, 2022 by AudiTTFan

[airborne spoon]

its a requirement that if the manufacture wants to make an electronic door they have to have an emergency cable or lever to open it as well.

Like my model S the front doors are electric but if that fails you pull the same handle fully extended and its a cable that opens the door, for the rear doors they are electric and the manual release is under the seat on the flat spot by your calves there is a cable that you pull to manual open the door.

The reason this happened to this person is a combination of the driver not keeping calm in a very scary situation which we all know is what can save your life if you just stay calm and gather your thoughts. Also nobody reads the manual for a car anymore and while this person claims the manual release is just not intuitive i think its more a matter of not knowing and not keeping a calm head.

[Mark Kaine]

Tesla driver kicks out window:

me imagining dude wrestling with a windows laptop while driving a tesla ...

 

to escape car fire:

"nothing makes any sense anymore..."

 

which also sums up tesla nicely.

 

On 5/25/2022 at 10:18 PM, airborne spoon said:

. Also nobody reads the manual for a car anymore

counter point: how are tesla even allowed to operate?  their cars clearly aren't safe for use in public. 

[Beerzerker]

50 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Tesla driver kicks out window:

me imagining dude wrestling with a windows laptop while driving a tesla ...

 

to escape car fire:

"nothing makes any sense anymore..."

 

which also sums up tesla nicely.

 

counter point: how are tesla even allowed to operate?  their cars clearly aren't safe for use in public. 

And I guess the point (Fact) they CAN be opened manually has been skipped over.
NO amount of safety features will do any good if the car owner doesn't bother to learn about them, or at least take time to ask and find out if they must.

Since the doors can be opened without power, that doesn't make the car itself unsafe.
To be fair the apparent lack of clarity about it is a problem and that does fall back on Tesla to an extent but at the same time, knowing your vehicle is also a responsibility of the owner too, that's why I say it in that way.

[Mark Kaine]

12 minutes ago, Beerzerker said:

And I guess the point (Fact) they CAN be opened manually has been skipped over.

yeah since it isn't clearly marked, it may as well not exist (would be different if it was)

 

i get it, IF you have a tesla it would be better to study the manual as it seems to point out many of the shortcomings,  but really any car should be designed safe enough for this not to be necessary. 

 

Ergo it should also be deemed unsafe for public use, until it's designed to function safely without their drivers having to study a manual. 

 

Most cars you really dont need to read or learn the manual,  especially not during an immediate emergency. 

 

 

 

 

[LWM723]

You should never have to "learn" how to open a car door. It should be visible and easily accessible not hidden in a manual that people rarely read. Oh gosh my house is on fire, I have to read the manual to open the door. R.I.P.

[airborne spoon]

25 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

snip....

Most cars you really dont need to read or learn the manual,  especially not during an immediate emergency. 

no shit you don't read the manual during an emergency you should've already read it and become familiar with the emergency procedures before the emergency happens 

9 minutes ago, LWM723 said:

You should never have to "learn" how to open a car door. It should be visible and easily accessible not hidden in a manual that people rarely read. Oh gosh my house is on fire, I have to read the manual to open the door. R.I.P.

If you don't read the manual for your car you shouldn't be allowed to drive it. Every car I've ever owned in the first week of ownership i would read the manual to familiarize myself with it. Now most cars on the road are very similar and you can glaze over some (most) stuff.

 

However, a tesla is clearly different and the amount of stupid questions I've been asked on tesla forums and in person while charging (that answers are in the fucking manual) is insane. Yeah the car is different so maybe you should read up on it so you don't ask stupid questions and don't have to kick out a window because you cant keep a cool head under pressure and just pull the safety release.

[Beerzerker]

55 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

yeah since it isn't clearly marked, it may as well not exist (would be different if it was)

 

i get it, IF you have a tesla it would be better to study the manual as it seems to point out many of the shortcomings,  but really any car should be designed safe enough for this not to be necessary. 

 

Ergo it should also be deemed unsafe for public use, until it's designed to function safely without their drivers having to study a manual. 

 

Most cars you really dont need to read or learn the manual,  especially not during an immediate emergency. 

 

 

 

 

Then I'd like for you or anyone else to demonstrate a perfect design - You can't because it doesn't exist.

It's not a case of taking a class on the car, if there is something you have a question about, just ask!
BTW do note I did say things could be clearer about what is what.

40 minutes ago, LWM723 said:

You should never have to "learn" how to open a car door. It should be visible and easily accessible not hidden in a manual that people rarely read. Oh gosh my house is on fire, I have to read the manual to open the door. R.I.P.

And by this logic you should never have to learn how to dim the headlights, start it, tune the radio, turn on the wipers, set the parking brake and so on. Unfortunately there are some out there dumb enough they woudn't understand how to turn a doorknob to get out of a building, fire or not.
And if there was a fire, are you going to blame the doorknob if they can't figure out how to open it?

If you happen to be that someone that can't or haven't figured out how to work it that's really on you because all that ain't up to the doorknob. A doorknob gonna do what a doorknob do regardless.

And I'll say once more.... I DID say things could be made more obvious about such things.... Like a warning label not to drink the water in a battery for example..... But wait, there are warning labels about that.
Used to be those didn't even exist but there was also no epidemic of battery acid swillers out there at that time either.
But now?
Go figure.

 

[LWM723]

@airborne spoon You are the rare exception then. Ask most car drivers if they read the manual and they will laugh at you. They haven't, always been that way and always will. Maybe there should be a Tesla school, lmao.....

[Beerzerker]

Just now, LWM723 said:

@airborne spoon You are the rare exception then. Ask most car drivers if they read the manual and they will laugh at you. They haven't, always been that way and always will. Maybe there should be a Tesla school, lmao.....

I'll be honest - Maybe there should be!

Alot of what we know is based on what was, any radical changes in design or concept DOES bear mention and review so that's seriously not a terrible idea... Or at least a safety brochure about it but then again, what good is that if they don't read it or pay attention in the class?

Also, all the training in the world means jack if the person panics - That's a killer and we all know it.

[LWM723]

Tesla should just include a hammer in the glovebox to break the window. Oh wait, you have to read the manual to open the glovebox, and the manual is in the glovebox. BTW, why is it called a glovebox? Never seen anyone keep gloves there, lol.

[Beerzerker]

Should call it the spare underwear box because in the event of a crash, you're gonna need a pair in some cases.
First you say it, then you do it....

[LWM723]

I need a spare underwear box whenever the red and blue lights turn on behind me.

[Mark Kaine]

17 minutes ago, LWM723 said:

Never seen anyone keep gloves there, lol.

My mom does...

[Mark Kaine]

56 minutes ago, Beerzerker said:

do note I did say things could be clearer about what is what.

yes i did. but that doesn't really take away from my main point... for example "crashing into standing airliners because of insufficient design and because owner didn't RTFM" should be immediate revoke of any licenses until further notice...

 

EVs is all nice and good, but tesla has a habit of having weird, unnecessary,  barely tested (apparently! ) features that dont even have something to do with being an EV, thats detrimental and not really helping anyone,  and until proven to be as safe as other cars it should not be allowed to drive on regular streets, simply. 

[LWM723]

Maybe a Tesla ejection seat. Don't tell Elon, he's crazy enough to do it!