LTT Screwdriver

[Bitter]

1 hour ago, Rusty Proto said:

Think we can get the label engraved instead of paint? Paint will just wear off. 

 

I think most of the "cash flow" problem is demonstrated in the types of videos he makes, especially if he's using the video to justify the expenditure as a business expense. (This is so obvious, but it makes for good content.  )

 

That said, something I haven't seen in awhile is a good push pump screwdriver. Those things would be quite handy if we could find one that will hold up, and I would totally use one if I could get one. Also, finding one that takes the 1/4 inch hex tool tips would pretty much make it my go to tool. I'm talking about these, btw: Kings County Tools Yankee Style Screwdriver | 7 Double-Sided Bits Included | Rotating Barrel with Hex Chuck | 3-Position Selector - Locked, Spiral-In and Spiral-Out | Easy on Hands - - Amazon.com

Yes, engraved, embossed, stamped, something that won't wear off!

[Bitter]

Hey, another idea. Maybe custom handle laser engraving for an additional fee? Engrave your forum name, online handle, a kind message to a friend if given as a gift, etc. Maybe a limited run with a Linus signature lasered in the handle or shaft or an Alex edition with his signature on the shaft or handle.

[volatus146]

On 7/10/2022 at 12:23 AM, Bitter said:

Hey, another idea. Maybe custom handle laser engraving for an additional fee? Engrave your forum name, online handle, a kind message to a friend if given as a gift, etc. Maybe a limited run with a Linus signature lasered in the handle or shaft or an Alex edition with his signature on the shaft or handle.

Second this, at a ~$150 price point and a very limited run, think 100 or less.

[Hasbrouck]

As a user of a PB Swiss Insider Pro the ltt screwdriver looks like a bit of an improvement for 20$ less. I use mine on camera gear and pc hardware so I get where they are coming from in terms of use case. A smooth comfortable racheting screwdriver with bits that fit very well is a must for not stripping out, crossthreading or overtightening small screws in specialized aluminum parts. If I wanted to save money though I would prioritize very high quality bits and save on the driver, but I aprreciate good ergonomics. Otherwise for most other things I will just use an impact. 

[Bi0]

On 7/6/2022 at 8:04 PM, yolosnail said:

That's a shame, that's probably enough to put me off the LTT screwdriver.

 

My 1/2" impact wrench gets used for just about everything on the cars, it's just so convenient. Luckily it has 3 power levels so if I'm screwing into plastic it's not too powerful even on full send, I've basically perfected the trigger at this point to get the perfect torque

I'm trying to imagine using my dewalt for interior work and i can't believe you LMAO. Personally i have a 1/4 hex impact which is my main tool, i've really been favoring electric ratchets though specially for the weird angles i go into with my interior.

[yolosnail]

1 hour ago, Bi0 said:

I'm trying to imagine using my dewalt for interior work and i can't believe you LMAO. Personally i have a 1/4 hex impact which is my main tool, i've really been favoring electric ratchets though specially for the weird angles i go into with my interior.

I believe on my 1/2 impact wrench's lowest setting it's about 100nm, which is about half my 1/4 impact driver (i believe that's 180nm), so I actually get more control!

 

I've recently just got a 12V electric ratchet because I've been working on the Smart car and with it being half the size of a shoe there's just no room to swing a ratchet!

[vetali]

6 hours ago, Bi0 said:

I'm trying to imagine using my dewalt for interior work and i can't believe you LMAO. Personally i have a 1/4 hex impact which is my main tool, i've really been favoring electric ratchets though specially for the weird angles i go into with my interior.

Only time I break out the 1/2 inch is for loosening steering wheel bolts. Which are loaded with green loctite on the newer Honda rigs. 3/8 for seat belt anchors and seats. Otherwise everything in the interior gets the 1/4 inch hex driver. Dashes always get loosened and tightened by hand... can cause alignment issues and rattles just ugga dugga sending them. Though most Honda dashes are held on by only a few bolts.

[Bi0]

1 hour ago, vetali said:

Only time I break out the 1/2 inch is for loosening steering wheel bolts. Which are loaded with green loctite on the newer Honda rigs. 3/8 for seat belt anchors and seats. Otherwise everything in the interior gets the 1/4 inch hex driver. Dashes always get loosened and tightened by hand... can cause alignment issues and rattles just ugga dugga sending them. Though most Honda dashes are held on by only a few bolts.

A fellow man of culture.

[yolosnail]

18 hours ago, vetali said:

Only time I break out the 1/2 inch is for loosening steering wheel bolts. Which are loaded with green loctite on the newer Honda rigs. 3/8 for seat belt anchors and seats. Otherwise everything in the interior gets the 1/4 inch hex driver. Dashes always get loosened and tightened by hand... can cause alignment issues and rattles just ugga dugga sending them. Though most Honda dashes are held on by only a few bolts.

My two most tools are the 1/2 impact and a 3/8 ratchet, there's pretty much nothing I'd do on a somewhat regular basis that you can't do with just those!

Although, trying to undo the front hub nut on the X-Trail was a nightmare, even with a breaker bar and 5ft of scaffold, it still took me jumping on it to even think about breaking free!

[vetali]

Honestly would be fine with a set time warranty. Anything is better than "just trust me bro" though. That makes me more cautious as a consumer, even if all my experiences with LTTstore have been great in the past.

[volatus146]

On 8/8/2022 at 4:42 PM, NastyFlytrap said:

Judging from the backpacks, we're lucky to get 5 years warranty on this. So much for 'ultimate screwdriver' thats TOUTED to be competing with these other ones, with lifetime warranties, while we're getting shafted. 
LTT proving yet again that they'll gladly say their shit is better, but will offer less for the same money (or more, since i'll have to pay tariffs on my order too, god damnit)

@posts that did not age well

[Hug]

On 8/15/2022 at 5:07 PM, volatus146 said:

@posts that did not age well

What happened I'm OOTL

[Imbadatnames]

On 8/15/2022 at 10:07 PM, volatus146 said:

@posts that did not age well

They only provided warranty when they got massive backlash over it. They weren’t going to have one. 

[Needfuldoer]

2 hours ago, Hug said:

What happened I'm OOTL

TL;DR

 

Backpack backorders opened up without providing a written warranty. This whipped the naysayers and backpack enthusiasts up in a tizzy because "real" luggage companies offer written warranties.

 

Linus tweets that "it's likely [LMG] will formalize some kind of warranty policy before [they] actually start shipping", but also throws in comments to the effect of 'if the company folds your warranty is useless anyway' and 'our real customers trust us so the lack of urgency on having a warranty isn't a big deal'. The naysayers and backpack enthusiasts are now in a frenzy.

 

Last week's WAN show breaks down "Warrantygate" for about an hour, and finally makes it clear that Backpack will come with a "limited lifetime warranty" against manufacturing and material defects, exclusive of modification or abuse. Standard luggage warranty stuff. The exact wording is currently in their lawyers' hands to make sure it's legit before it's published. There are reportedly "a couple dozen" Backpack cancelations (out of 20,000+ orders). "'Trust me, bro' warranty" shirts hit lttstoredotcom, Luke cringes. The frenzy dies down.

[Needfuldoer]

4 hours ago, NastyFlytrap said:

In my defense, at the time of making this very original and witty comment, LTT still hasnt released an official warranty, and when they do, its just going to be 'trust me bro' but in legalese lawyer speak.
Im calling it now.

So as far as im concerned, my comment did age well. Not unless they release an actually worthwhile warranty on it.

 

Guess what got posted today!

 

Quote

TMB Guarantee - Limited Lifetime Warranty

WE OFFER A LIMITED LIFETIME WARRANTY THAT THE LTT BACKPACK IS FREE FROM MANUFACTURING AND MATERIAL DEFECTS.

THE LIMITED LIFETIME WARRANTY IS VALID FOR THE USUAL AND CUSTOMARY LIFE OF THE LTT BACKPACK. THE MANNER IN WHICH THE LTT BACKPACK IS USED DIRECTLY IMPACTS THE USUAL AND CUSTOMARY LIFE OF THE PRODUCT, AS MATERIALS WILL DETERIORATE AND FADE OVER TIME AND MOVING PARTS (SUCH AS ZIPPERS) WILL ALSO WEAR.

THE LIMITED LIFETIME WARRANTY DOES NOT COVER:

• damages caused by misuse, abuse, or by accident or negligence;
• damage caused by rips, cuts or tears;
• normal wear and tear (including the breakdown of materials over time);
• products purchased from unauthorized dealers;
• cosmetic damage; or
• unauthorized modification or alteration.

 

IN ORDER TO MAKE A WARRANTY CLAIM, YOU MUST BE THE ORIGINAL PURCHASER OF THE LTT BACKPACK FROM LTTSTORE.COM OR PROVIDE A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL PROOF OF PURCHASE.

Source: https://www.lttstore.com/products/backpack

 

Material and manufacturing defects are covered, throwing the Backpack into a wood chipper is not. Popped a stitch? Covered. Rubberized flap stuff over the zippers wore out? Not covered. 

 

Seems like pretty typical stuff to me.

[dogwitch]

8 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

 

Guess what got posted today!

 

Source: https://www.lttstore.com/products/backpack

 

Material and manufacturing defects are covered, throwing the Backpack into a wood chipper is not. Popped a stitch? Covered. Rubberized flap stuff over the zippers wore out? Not covered. 

 

Seems like pretty typical stuff to me.

yet people on fb and twitter. already trying to make more drama!

[Needfuldoer]

3 minutes ago, dogwitch said:

yet people on fb and twitter. already trying to make more drama!

Who are we to argue with experts in warranty law and moving goalposts?

[crazzp]

10 minutes ago, NastyFlytrap said:

It says outright that it doesnt cover wear and tear, which is what warranties are for in the first fucking place!

Imagine a lifetime warranty of wear and tear- I'm just gonna claim for a replacement for a new backpack every 1-2 years.

Do shoes need to cover for wear and tear too in your opinion? 

[NovaNightmare]

1 hour ago, NastyFlytrap said:

 

It says outright that it doesnt cover wear and tear, which is what warranties are for in the first fucking place! What is the point of a warranty that only covers damage that's from the factory? Its not supposed to have any in the first fucking place!
 

Hello, do you know what a warranty is?

 

Do you have any instance where a warranty covers normal wear and tear on an item?

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Definition of wear and tear
: the loss, injury, or stress to which something is subjected by or in the course of use especially : normal depreciation

Warranties are warranted against manufacturing defect, not normal wear and tear.

 

Your shoes are not warranted against your normal use of them, your car has an explicit warranty that covers it, except for normal wear and tear items. If you rent an apartment and put down a security deposit, you are protected from being charged for normal wear and tear of the apartment that would be expected by X number of years being used. If you drive a car, your tires are also not warranted against normal wear and tear, though they may be warranted from manufacturing defects, or you may have a road warranty that covers unexpected hazards, that is not warranting wear and tear.

 

You will not find it as standard practice a warranty that covers typical wear and tear of an item. Normal wear and tear is just that, normal and expected.

 

Beyond normal wear and tear, if the wear and tear was as unexpected, it happened much quicker than normal, then that would be a manufacturing defect of the item.

[Pitboy64]

Personally ... I'm not buying a screwdriver, and for just one reason.
The bit size is not standard, but fairly proprietary, at the very least it may be available from other makers/retailers ... but it is unusual compared to replacement bits available at hardware stores.  Linus saying that at some point having bit packs available ... means little. If I break a bit and I need a bit, I'll go to Home Depot and get a bit ... waiting for an online order is not an option.
For that reason alone ... I'll pass.
On day one ... its dated.
Shame, would have been cool.

[Ravendarat]

1 hour ago, Pitboy64 said:

Personally ... I'm not buying a screwdriver, and for just one reason.
The bit size is not standard, but fairly proprietary, at the very least it may be available from other makers/retailers ... but it is unusual compared to replacement bits available at hardware stores.  Linus saying that at some point having bit packs available ... means little. If I break a bit and I need a bit, I'll go to Home Depot and get a bit ... waiting for an online order is not an option.
For that reason alone ... I'll pass.
On day one ... its dated.
Shame, would have been cool.

The bits are shorter but he also stated it will hold a standard bit in the shaft, but if you want to load up the top you would only be able to hold 6 bits instead of 12. I get your point but its not like its totally useless without their bits, just lower capacity.

[DeltaBruggemann]

1 hour ago, Pitboy64 said:

Personally ... I'm not buying a screwdriver, and for just one reason.
The bit size is not standard, but fairly proprietary, at the very least it may be available from other makers/retailers ... but it is unusual compared to replacement bits available at hardware stores.  Linus saying that at some point having bit packs available ... means little. If I break a bit and I need a bit, I'll go to Home Depot and get a bit ... waiting for an online order is not an option.
For that reason alone ... I'll pass.
On day one ... its dated.
Shame, would have been cool.

They're 1/4" bits. They are just shorter so they can fit 12 bits in the bit loader rather then 6 full length bits

[Needfuldoer]

3 hours ago, Pitboy64 said:

Personally ... I'm not buying a screwdriver, and for just one reason.
The bit size is not standard, but fairly proprietary, at the very least it may be available from other makers/retailers ... but it is unusual compared to replacement bits available at hardware stores.  Linus saying that at some point having bit packs available ... means little. If I break a bit and I need a bit, I'll go to Home Depot and get a bit ... waiting for an online order is not an option.
For that reason alone ... I'll pass.
On day one ... its dated.
Shame, would have been cool.

The bits are standard 1/4-hex shaft diameter, just shorter than normal so more fit in the handle. (I have an old Snap-On multi-bit screwdriver with bits that size.) Generic bits will fit.

 

Designing a proprietary shaft size would've been a colossal waste of money.

[Imbadatnames]

6 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

The bits are standard 1/4-hex shaft diameter, just shorter than normal so more fit in the handle. (I have an old Snap-On multi-bit screwdriver with bits that size.) Generic bits will fit.

 

Designing a proprietary shaft size would've been a colossal waste of money.

But you could just get a screwdriver that’s the same but cheaper from other, more established, brands where you can just go into a store to RMA something. The LTT screwdriver without shipping and taxes is more expensive than a wera one with shipping and tax included 

[Needfuldoer]

Just now, Imbadatnames said:

But you could just get a screwdriver that’s the same but cheaper from other, more established, brands where you can just go into a store to RMA something. The LTT screwdriver without shipping and taxes is more expensive than a wera one with shipping and tax included 

Yes, it's expensive. You could also just get a cheaper backpack, a cheaper hoodie, a cheaper water bottle...