new build any useful suggestions?

[leonardmartin29]

i want to build a 12900k with rtx3080 system. i like the new corsair 5000t but it has 4 usb 3.0 which means 2 front panel headers most motherboards only have one which means 2 ports will be unused. does anyone know of a atx motherboard that has 2 usb 3.0 front header cables.  preferably asus or evga boards. higher end please. mainly black as well if possible no price restriction but lets be reasonable

 

[Middcore]

3 minutes ago, leonardmartin29 said:

i want to build a 12900k with rtx3080 system. i like the new corsair 5000t but it has 4 usb 3.0 which means 2 front panel headers most motherboards only have one which means 2 ports will be unused. does anyone know of a atx motherboard that has 2 usb 3.0 front header cables.  preferably asus or evga boards. higher end please. mainly black as well if possible no price restriction but lets be reasonable

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#s=40&f=2&S=2,4

 

Unless you actually need USB3 speeds for all four front ports, you would probably be ahead to just get an adapter cable to connect two of the ports to a USB2 header. 

 

 

[leonardmartin29]

3 minutes ago, Middcore said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#s=40&f=2&S=2,4

 

Unless you actually need USB3 speeds for all four front ports, you would probably be ahead to just get an adapter cable to connect two of the ports to a USB2 header. 

 

 

yea i want the usb 3 speeds if possible

[leonardmartin29]

anyone have any thoughts on a ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO

[leonardmartin29]

Budget (including currency): 7500 canadian

Country: canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: solitare

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/GzbBmr

case will be a corsair 5000t and motherboard will be asus rog maximus hero z690 ram will be a ddr 5 version just not alot available in pcpartpicker right now.  not interested in making it cheaper or a better value

[bmx6454]

get a 3090, maybe 2, so you can get max fps in solitaire.

[RONOTHAN##]

It's a Strix E with a slightly more overkill VRM, 2 Thunderbolt ports (which don't have display pass through so they're stuck with the iGPU), and way more expensive. If you're gonna be overclocking, it's a bad idea because it's got 2 too many DIMM slots and is in the same price range as other XOC boards like the Unify X, Tachyon, and the Apex, all of which are much better all around motherboards than the Hero. If you aren't gonna be overclocking, a $200 motherboard is fine for a 12900k, and if you need the thunderbolt, you can get that on other boards with better implementations of it like on the Z690 Ace. If you really want ASUS, save your money and get the Strix E instead, or if you can go with another vender (as you probably should) go for something like the MSI Z690 Unify X, Z690 Ace, Z690 Carbon, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Pro, Z690 Aorus Master, etc. It's not that the Hero is necessarily a bad motherboard, it's just ~$150 more expensive than it should be, and the Strix E is basically the same board for $150 less (though admittedly without Thunderbolt). 

 

Also there's the issue where one of the capacitors in the memory VRM was soldered on backwards so the boards were exploding, so there's that to look out for.

[leonardmartin29]

3 minutes ago, bmx6454 said:

get a 3090, maybe 2, so you can get max fps in solitaire.

due to availability i wont be able to get a 3090 hard enough to find a 3080 at this point

[leonardmartin29]

3 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

It's a Strix E with a slightly more overkill VRM, 2 Thunderbolt ports (which don't have display pass through so they're stuck with the iGPU), and way more expensive. If you're gonna be overclocking, it's a bad idea because it's got 2 too many DIMM slots and is in the same price range as other XOC boards like the Unify X, Tachyon, and the Apex, all of which are much better all around motherboards than the Hero. If you aren't gonna be overclocking, a $200 motherboard is fine for a 12900k, and if you need the thunderbolt, you can get that on other boards with better implementations of it like on the Z690 Ace. If you really want ASUS, save your money and get the Strix E instead, or if you can go with another vender (as you probably should) go for something like the MSI Z690 Unify X, Z690 Ace, Z690 Carbon, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Pro, Z690 Aorus Master, etc. It's not that the Hero is necessarily a bad motherboard, it's just ~$150 more expensive than it should be, and the Strix E is basically the same board for $150 less (though admittedly without Thunderbolt). 

 

Also there's the issue where one of the capacitors in the memory VRM was soldered on backwards so the boards were exploding, so there's that to look out for.

the reason i like the maximus hero is because its the only one i can find with 2 front ports that support usb 3.0. i dont want to use a adapter to go to usb 2.0 and dont want dead front ports. im willing to go either asus or evga. must have 2 front ports for usb 3.0 and one for usb c

[Jurrunio]

13 minutes ago, leonardmartin29 said:

the reason i like the maximus hero is because its the only one i can find with 2 front ports that support usb 3.0.

One USB 3 header is good for 2 Type A ports, even the cheapest Z690 from Asus got it... 

 

Or if you actually want 2 headers, the MSI Z690-A can do offer that. No reason to buy a Hero just for USB headers

 

Oh and due to USB-IF full of complete idiots, USB 3.2 Gen 1 equals USB 3.0, USB 3.2 Gen 2 equals USB 3.1 Gen 2. Only USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 is a new thing with double the speed of Gen 2

[leonardmartin29]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

One USB 3 header is good for 2 Type A ports, even the cheapest Z690 from Asus got it... 

 

Or if you actually want 2 headers, the MSI Z690-A can do offer that. No reason to buy a Hero just for USB headers

 

Oh and due to USB-IF full of complete idiots, USB 3.2 Gen 1 equals USB 3.0, USB 3.2 Gen 2 equals USB 3.1 Gen 2. Only USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 is a new thing with double the speed of Gen 2

the case i bought today is a corsair 5000t it has 4 front usb 3.0 ports which means 2 connectors. i want a motherboard with 2 front panel connectors with usb 3.0. i dont want dead ports and i dont want to use a adapter for usb 2.0. sorry i dont buy msi products. for motherboards i only use evga or asus

[RONOTHAN##]

8 minutes ago, leonardmartin29 said:

the reason i like the maximus hero is because its the only one i can find with 2 front ports that support usb 3.0. i dont want to use a adapter to go to usb 2.0 and dont want dead front ports. im willing to go either asus or evga. must have 2 front ports for usb 3.0 and one for usb c

So for the case you're going for, it has 4 front panel USB ports and 1 Type C port? Because even the Prime Z690-P has those connectors on it. The Strix boards don't have them (because Asus is weird), but basically every other board mentioned does. 

 

And if you really want those, you could just buy a PCIe USB 3.0 card for the other header. You can get one for like $20 and a Strix E and still be well under the cost of a maximus. If you're gonna spend exorbitant amounts on a motherboard, you might as well go all the way for an Apex since that board, unlike the hero, will actually hold its value later on as a collectors item.

[leonardmartin29]

8 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

So for the case you're going for, it has 4 front panel USB ports and 1 Type C port? Because even the Prime Z690-P has those connectors on it. The Strix boards don't have them (because Asus is weird), but basically every other board mentioned does. 

 

And if you really want those, you could just buy a PCIe USB 3.0 card for the other header. You can get one for like $20 and a Strix E and still be well under the cost of a maximus. If you're gonna spend exorbitant amounts on a motherboard, you might as well go all the way for an Apex since that board, unlike the hero, will actually hold its value later on as a collectors item.

alright well thanks for the info after reviewing it i like the apex board. 

[SansVarnic]

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[leonardmartin29]

Budget (including currency): not sure 

Country: canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  new world, valheim, fs22

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

I am buying a Samsung 32 inch oddssey g5 which is a 32" 144 hz monitor. i love the monitor i had it before and loved it dont need suggestions on monitor. 

i have a corsair 5000d in white which was given to me for free. i want quality parts like a corsair rm650. i dont want much rgb so as little as possible. or have it corsair so i can turn it off.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/8mnKBj

or should i just buy a prebuilt like a hp or something

[dizmo]

Don't pay anywhere near that for a 3060. They're rather weak cards. 

[bmx6454]

not sure if your heart is set on amd, but intel would be a better choice imo if you haven't purchased the parts yet. amd 5000 are decent chips, but 12th gen intel has better gaming performance.

[mr fobs]

I agree max for a 3060 would be like $500 and that's high. Check NewEgg for RTX  30 combos. They aren't the greatest of prices, but they are available. Otherwise, you are stuck waiting for BestBuy to go in stock, or praying for a random stocking somewhere else. Check out Falcodrin on twitch, he has a stock alert system and makes it easier to find a card.

[leonardmartin29]

8 minutes ago, bmx6454 said:

not sure if your heart is set on amd, but intel would be a better choice imo if you haven't purchased the parts yet. amd 5000 are decent chips, but 12th gen intel has better gaming performance.

what would you recommend in regards to a 12th gen intel chip the reason is because amd comes with a stock cooler and i wont be overclocking. if its intel i will still buy a oc chip but i dont overclock. a 12600k is about 12% faster but 70$ more expensive and doesnt come with a cooler

 

 

[leonardmartin29]

3 minutes ago, mr fobs said:

I agree max for a 3060 would be like $500 and that's high. Check NewEgg for RTX  30 combos. They aren't the greatest of prices, but they are available. Otherwise, you are stuck waiting for BestBuy to go in stock, or praying for a random stocking somewhere else. Check out Falcodrin on twitch, he has a stock alert system and makes it easier to find a card.

i dont do combos usually because they usually have one good part and one crappy part. or alot of them have horrible brand names. i dont like gigabite. or msi for their corporate practices and refuse to buy their products. i tend to stick with the evga asus parts corsair noctua, 

[leonardmartin29]

13 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Don't pay anywhere near that for a 3060. They're rather weak cards. 

sorry should be 700 for a 3060 i was just guessing 

[leonardmartin29]

11 minutes ago, mr fobs said:

I agree max for a 3060 would be like $500 and that's high. Check NewEgg for RTX  30 combos. They aren't the greatest of prices, but they are available. Otherwise, you are stuck waiting for BestBuy to go in stock, or praying for a random stocking somewhere else. Check out Falcodrin on twitch, he has a stock alert system and makes it easier to find a card.

a 3060 is around 700 in canada

[brob]

5600X is a bit better, but the i5-12400(F) is slightly less expensive and nearly as good in gaming.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($239.99 @ Memory Express) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  ($79.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B660-PLUS D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($179.11 @ iSanek) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($181.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK SN750 SE 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($134.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB VENTUS 2X OC Video Card  ($1069.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Corsair 5000D ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($87.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Monitor: Samsung LC32G55TQWNXZA 32.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $1974.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-03-10 16:28 EST-0500[/i

 

[leonardmartin29]

1 hour ago, brob said:

5600X is a bit better, but the i5-12400(F) is slightly less expensive and nearly as good in gaming.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($239.99 @ Memory Express) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  ($79.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B660-PLUS D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($179.11 @ iSanek) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($181.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK SN750 SE 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($134.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB VENTUS 2X OC Video Card  ($1069.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Corsair 5000D ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($87.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Monitor: Samsung LC32G55TQWNXZA 32.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $1974.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-03-10 16:28 EST-0500[/i

 

accordign to this benchmarks the 5600x is 2.5% faster in games and doesnt require a cheap cooler which will likely fail in 1-2 years

 

[leonardmartin29]

Budget (including currency): 7000

Country: canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: first will be used for gaming second it will be used for movies. htpc.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

first build

12900k

asus hero

corsair dominator platnium rgb 32gb 2x16gb ddr5

corsair hx1000

corsair 5000t

noctua nh d15

samsung g5 monitor 32"

asus tuf rtx3070

 

second build

12600k

asus tuf z690

noctua u12 cooler

2x16gb 3200 mhz corsair vengence ram

corsair rmx850

 

im not interested in AMD. i know i can get cheaper parts i didnt ask for cheap. i only buy from amazon and canada computers

im mainly looking for a quality smaller atx case for a htpc.