new build any useful suggestions?

[emosun]

I think a use case or some sort of guidance on what you are doing and what you are looking for as far as recommendations could definitely help as currently theres no information at all.

 

nvm , i think the first build may be ok but the second build is far overspec'd for the task

[leonardmartin29]

Just now, emosun said:

I think a use case or some sort of guidance on what you are doing and what you are looking for as far as recommendations could definitely help as currently theres no information at all.

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: first will be used for gaming second it will be used for movies. htpc

[Kangaroo Factory]

The D15 will likely hit the ram. You can use it, but be prepared to use a dremel cut off. Obviously, the low profile vengeance will clear, but the corsair vengeance ram uses less desirable parts, something about samsung b die.

 

I like the Asus Z690 A strix for a ddr4 build. It has four m2 slots. 

 

And 12700k will save you 200 bucks.

 

Also the 1000 power supply is larger fyi.

 

[RONOTHAN##]

For the first build, you're overspending on your CPU and underspending on your GPU. The difference between a 12700K and a 12900K is pretty minimal in games, while the difference between a 3070 and a 3080 (the price difference between those two CPUs) is pretty big. Plus, the NH-D15 can't keep up with the 12900K under full load, so in situations where the 12900K would be faster, it'll likely be thermal throttling. Plus, if you rearrange the budget a bit (I.E. by not getting a $600 motherboard), you could fit a 3090 in that system without much trouble. 

 

For the second system, for just watching movies an i3 12100 and a B660 board is about as much as you could need. There's no reason to be spending $800+ on a system that could realistically be done by a $35 Raspberry Pi or a Chromecast. 

[Kangaroo Factory]

I bet you could get a 3080 TUF for $700 on ebay.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325201812033?hash=item4bb789da41:g:5KYAAOSwb41h6PEk

[leonardmartin29]

6 minutes ago, Kangaroo Factory said:

I bet you could get a 3080 TUF for $700 on ebay.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325201812033?hash=item4bb789da41:g:5KYAAOSwb41h6PEk

sorry i dont use ebay

[Kangaroo Factory]

That's too bad. There are so many good deals on ebay. 

 

Amazon warehouse is another option to save money.

[Kangaroo Factory]

Here's an amazon warehouse deal.

https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-Graphics-IceStorm-Advanced-ZT-A30820J-10PLHR/dp/B09PZM76MG/ref=sr_1_29?crid=1OA0AG6UCHA3V&keywords=3080&qid=1653854299&sprefix=3080%2Caps%2C133&sr=8-29

 

$836 for a zotac 3080.

[IkeaGnome]

2 minutes ago, Kangaroo Factory said:

Here's an amazon warehouse deal.

https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-Graphics-IceStorm-Advanced-ZT-A30820J-10PLHR/dp/B09PZM76MG/ref=sr_1_29?crid=1OA0AG6UCHA3V&keywords=3080&qid=1653854299&sprefix=3080%2Caps%2C133&sr=8-29

 

$836 for a zotac 3080.

Or get a new FTW3 for slightly more. 
 

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Prices are coming down. Used eBay and Marketplace don’t really make sense anymore. Even the XC3 is cheaper than the eBay one you linked 

[leonardmartin29]

6 minutes ago, Kangaroo Factory said:

Here's an amazon warehouse deal.

https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-Graphics-IceStorm-Advanced-ZT-A30820J-10PLHR/dp/B09PZM76MG/ref=sr_1_29?crid=1OA0AG6UCHA3V&keywords=3080&qid=1653854299&sprefix=3080%2Caps%2C133&sr=8-29

 

$836 for a zotac 3080.

Amazon warehouse means it doesn’t come with a warranty. I’d rather pay full price

[leonardmartin29]

10 minutes ago, Kangaroo Factory said:

That's too bad. There are so many good deals on ebay. 

 

Amazon warehouse is another option to save money.

I’m not looking to save money

[4PcBuilder]

First build(overkill but your budget is 7k)

 

cpu:https://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-Warranty-Power-Supply-100-N1-0550-L1/dp/B01LYGJL0E/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=1E28X6OEX6SIT&keywords=550+watt+psu+evga&qid=1653854521&sprefix=550+watt+psu+evga%2Caps%2C70&sr=8-4

motherboard:https://www.amazon.ca/ROG-Z690-motherboard-LiveDash-2xThunderbolt/dp/B09K8Z4XNR/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=2QIK6FG04TUHF&keywords=z690+ddr5+formula&qid=1653852978&sprefix=z690+ddr5+formula%2Caps%2C71&sr=8-2

 

gpu:https://www.amazon.ca/MSI-GeForce-Tri-Frozr-Architecture-Graphics/dp/B09R9G57GK/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=1U4T1L0518OXJ&keywords=3090+ti&qid=1653853153&sprefix=3090+ti%2Caps%2C107&sr=8-2

 

ram:https://www.amazon.ca/XPG-3200MHz-288-Pin-PC4-25600-AX4U320038G16A-DB10/dp/B083LCJS9S/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?crid=2OVN0S51DWZLS&keywords=16gb+ram&qid=1653854974&sprefix=16gb+ram%2Caps%2C120&sr=8-10

 

cooler:https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-H150i-Capellix-Liquid-Cooler/dp/B08Q86DSTX/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=3VFECYI1FMWXU&keywords=h150&qid=1653853001&sprefix=h150%2Caps%2C95&sr=8-4

 

ssd:https://www.amazon.ca/Western-Digital-WD_Black-Internal-Gaming/dp/B08KFRFL8F/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1I3S5JNN98ZN7&keywords=sn850+2tb&qid=1653853535&sprefix=sn850%2Caps%2C110&sr=8-3

 

case:https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-Mid-Tower-Individually-Addressable-Controller/dp/B09K21MXM8/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=2IB7EN2FZDUIT&keywords=5000t&qid=1653852839&sprefix=5000t%2Caps%2C115&sr=8-2&th=1&psc=1

 

psu:https://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-Supernova-Modular-Warranty-220-GA-0850-X1/dp/B0997XYF3R/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=NJAI8AUIFSNY&keywords=evga%2Bga%2B850&qid=1653853047&sprefix=evga%2Bga%2B850%2Caps%2C89&sr=8-1&th=1&psc=1

 

second build:

cpu:https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_65_3860&item_id=201282

 

motherboard:https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1842_3869&item_id=214074

 

Ram:https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-Vengeance-PC4-25600-Desktop-Memory/dp/B07RW6Z692/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=3DXL8ZQKB03GL&keywords=32gb+ram+ripjaws&qid=1653854090&sprefix=32+gb+ram+ripjaws%2Caps%2C72&sr=8-3

 

cooler:https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-RR-212S-20PC-R1-Direct-Contact/dp/B07H22TC1N/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=3PXM2U5PA9KP&keywords=air+cooler+pc&qid=1653854142&sprefix=air+cooler+pc%2Caps%2C128&sr=8-3

ssd:https://www.amazon.ca/Samsung-980-250GB-Internal-MZ-V8V250B/dp/B08V7P3SKS/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=19UHT2JMLUN4U&keywords=250gb+ssd&qid=1653854273&sprefix=250%2Caps%2C111&sr=8-4

 

hdd:https://www.amazon.ca/Seagate-Barracuda-Internal-Drive-3-5-Inch/dp/B07H2RR55Q/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=PZB3R6FC671G&keywords=2tb+hdd&qid=1653854289&sprefix=2tb+hdd%2Caps%2C99&sr=8-3

 

Case:https://www.amazon.ca/NZXT-H210-Management-Water-Cooling-Construction/dp/B07T94W9YS/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=2UEIXZJ836JZB&keywords=mini%2Bitx%2Bcase&qid=1653853878&sprefix=mini%2Bitx%2Bcase%2Caps%2C95&sr=8-4&th=1&psc=1

 

psu:https://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-Warranty-Power-Supply-100-N1-0550-L1/dp/B01LYGJL0E/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=1E28X6OEX6SIT&keywords=550+watt+psu+evga&qid=1653854521&sprefix=550+watt+psu+evga%2Caps%2C70&sr=8-4

 

 

 

[4PcBuilder]

Just to clarify your budget is 7000 Canadian dollars right?

[leonardmartin29]

2 minutes ago, 4PcBuilder said:

Just to clarify your budget is 7000 Canadian dollars right?

for both builds

[Jeppes]

Htpc with 12600K? 12100 is great for that.

 

 

[leonardmartin29]

3 minutes ago, Jeppes said:

Htpc with 12600K? 12100 is great for that.

 

 

im thinking long term. i want it to last 7-8 years 

[Kangaroo Factory]

19 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Or get a new FTW3 for slightly more. 
 

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Prices are coming down. Used eBay and Marketplace don’t really make sense anymore. Even the XC3 is cheaper than the eBay one you linked 

that's a good deal. Where do you see an xc3 for cheap? 

[leonardmartin29]

Just now, Kangaroo Factory said:

that's a good deal. Where do you see an xc3 for cheap? 

who said anything about wanting it to be cheap

[IkeaGnome]

2 minutes ago, Kangaroo Factory said:

that's a good deal. Where do you see an xc3 for cheap? 

Regularly on EVGAs site. They’re not in right now but are very commonly. 

[RONOTHAN##]

2 minutes ago, leonardmartin29 said:

im thinking long term. i want it to last 7-8 years 

Again, A 12100 will do that. An HTPC needs basically no performance. You'd have a hard time telling the difference between an i5 4460 and a 12600K in HTPC tasks, there's no reason to be getting that overkill of a CPU that will just be idling for its entire life. 

[Kangaroo Factory]

so you can spend moar on audio, or a 49 inch monitor, 

 

a receiver, some svs ultra speakers, subs, etc.

 

a 4k projector,

 

A herman miller chair

 

An adjustable standing desk

 

etc etc

 

[leonardmartin29]

3 minutes ago, Kangaroo Factory said:

so you can spend moar on audio, or a 49 inch monitor, 

 

a receiver, some svs ultra speakers, subs, etc.

 

a 4k projector,

 

A herman miller chair

 

An adjustable standing desk

 

etc etc

 

dont need a projector i have a 65"tv in a 1 bedroom apartment. i have a steelcase karmen which is better for bigger people. i have a excellent sound system $3500 worth. no need for a 49 inch monitor 32 is fine for me

[leonardmartin29]

7 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Again, A 12100 will do that. An HTPC needs basically no performance. You'd have a hard time telling the difference between an i5 4460 and a 12600K in HTPC tasks, there's no reason to be getting that overkill of a CPU that will just be idling for its entire life. 

i  have a 8400 for my current htpc and its very slow wamma buy better this time so i dont have to replace so quickly

[Jeppes]

8 minutes ago, leonardmartin29 said:

im thinking long term. i want it to last 7-8 years 

What do you think will happen in 8 years? Support is shit for pc with streaming services so Appletv/chromecast/nvidiashield is smart for that but other stuff needs no horsepower. 8K is a pipedream 8 years from now unless we leap from quality that can be reached with 1080p to 8k raw.

 

3 minutes ago, leonardmartin29 said:

dont need a projector i have a 65"tv in a 1 bedroom apartment. i have a steelcase karmen which is better for bigger people. i have a excellent sound system $3500 worth. no need for a 49 inch monitor 32 is fine for me

Why do you need two pc:s in one bedroom apartement?

[RONOTHAN##]

2 minutes ago, leonardmartin29 said:

i  have a 8400 for my current htpc and its very slow wamma buy better this time so i dont have to replace so quickly

What are you doing on there that an 8400 isn't enough? Either there's something going wrong with that machine or there's something you're not letting on about what the PC is doing, since for watching movies an 8400 should be plenty.