AMD starts selling Playstation 5 APU

[Shreyas1]

On 6/28/2021 at 7:42 PM, ARikozuM said:

Now if only Microsoft would capitalize by giving us an Xbox OS for a cheap X/360 emulation PC. 

Honestly not sure why MS doesn't just create a 360 or original xbox emulator (for PC and XSX). I mean they seem to focus a decent bit on backwards compatibility now and crossplay, and I'm plenty of people would pay 20-30 bucks to play their old xbox library on their PC. I mean they already have a working xbox 360 emulator that they run on the xbone for backwards compatibility, they could just try and port it to the PC. They could even make it a part of gamepass if they wish

[CerealExperimentsLain]

On 6/29/2021 at 10:02 AM, Spotty said:

That is disappointing, especially since you need to use a dedicated GPU. I would've thought the CPU could have provided more PCIe lanes. I guess on the xbox it only uses x4 for the storage drive and doesn't need any other PCIe expansion, I thought that was PCIe Gen 4.0 though. Is the PCIe 2.0 x4 limitation on the PCIe x16 slot a result of needing the chipset and USB controller? Does that mean the PCIe slot is actually coming from the chipset and not direct to the CPU? Would explain why it's PCIe Gen 2.0.

It's def the nature of the beast.  To keep costs down the processor is tailored to it's exact needs in the console with nothing extra.  It's how they manage to sell consoles at the prices they do, by building the hardware for one purpose and one purpose alone with all extraneous components removed.

 

This is an 'interesting' board but I wonder how much use it'll see outside of novelty.  If it can be sold cheap enough it'd be neat in mid range SFF PCs or office PCs I guess.

[Vishera]

On 6/29/2021 at 4:22 AM, AdamBGames said:

and with limited Operating system compatability and driver support, this could be a very hard sell.

Well,AMDs driver team are a mess and can hardly get things done,so they prefer to support OSes and their hardware as less as possible,

Because it reduces the load on them.

 

Knowing AMD even Windows 11 support won't be provided.

And the Windows 10 support will be extremely limited anyway.

[Bitter]

Gosh, if the iGPU wasn't scrubbed this would be an awesome HTPC for myself but without the iGPU it's pretty useless to me.

[pas008]

all in time for evga mobos

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/283962/evga-goes-red-teases-the-first-ever-motherboard-made-for-amd-ryzen-processors

[crystal6tak]

If someone bought this PC kit and PS5, desolder and swapped the CPU's. Would the iGPU work?  (You'd still need a GPU for passthrough, but I'd like to see how well the 36 CU RDNA 2 works under windows) 

[Kisai]

2 hours ago, crystal6tak said:

If someone bought this PC kit and PS5, desolder and swapped the CPU's. Would the iGPU work?  (You'd still need a GPU for passthrough, but I'd like to see how well the 36 CU RDNA 2 works under windows) 

It wouldn't because the security in the PS5 won't let it, but even if it did, the GPU is likely binned to be disabled.

[crystal6tak]

15 minutes ago, Kisai said:

It wouldn't because the security in the PS5 won't let it, but even if it did, the GPU is likely binned to be disabled.

What? Either I am misunderstanding or what I wrote was confusing. I know the iGPU in the 4700S is disabled. What I'm asking is if you took the SoC from a PS5 and slapped it on this AMD motherboard kit, then we'll technically have a 4700S with a functional iGPU. Could be an interesting experiment to perform.

[maartendc]

So this basically gets you for $317:

 

- a custom motherboard

- an 8-core Zen 3 CPU with no APU

- PCI-e slot for dedicated GPU

- Soldered DDR6 memmory. (16GB?)

 

Kind of a good deal I guess, since you have a motherboard ($120 ish), cpu (8-core Zen3 CPU's retail for $400+) and memory ($85 ish)  all in one. But seeing as how everything is soldered on, kind of a weird product, and not upgradeable or repairable.

 

 

 

 

 

[Npiet1]

Since it's close but not actually a PS5 Soc, I wonder if they were gonna be dev kits, or just an early version of the PS5.

[CerealExperimentsLain]

5 hours ago, crystal6tak said:

What? Either I am misunderstanding or what I wrote was confusing. I know the iGPU in the 4700S is disabled. What I'm asking is if you took the SoC from a PS5 and slapped it on this AMD motherboard kit, then we'll technically have a 4700S with a functional iGPU. Could be an interesting experiment to perform.

You'd also need a BIOS/Firmware that can run that iGPU and this would ship without that.  So unless you got the necessary firmware, probably not.

[Justaphysicsnerd]

LTT should do a video on it

[williamcll]

Here's a review of a desktop with one, highlights:

 

Essentially a R7 3700X, go get it if you have the budget I guess.

[DuckDodgers]

The GDDR6 memory subsystem is definitely optimized for throughput (for the IGP). With such high latency, any integer code will drag the overall performance down on top of the halved L3 cache size.