Is the brake and gas pedals in modern cars "soft" or "hard"?

[432]

Is the brake and gas pedals in modern cars "soft" or "hard"?

[Guest]

They can be either.  It varies by manufacturer/model and the vehicles intended audience/purpose.

[432]

Just now, si1enze said:

They can be either.  It varies by manufacturer/model and the vehicles intended audience/purpose.

What is the most common way in newer cars?

[Guest]

This is being incredibly general... but for a standard economy class vehicle, the pedals will be softer than say, a high end sports car.

[Gix7Fifty]

A brake pedal will be harder than a gas/throttle pedal.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Gix7Fifty said:

A brake pedal will be harder than a gas/throttle pedal.

Generally yeah - unless they're real touchy.

[432]

3 minutes ago, Gix7Fifty said:

A brake pedal will be harder than a gas/throttle pedal.

1 minute ago, si1enze said:

Generally yeah - unless they're real touchy.

I mean this: SOft-CPU controlled

Hard-directly controls feature

[Gix7Fifty]

2 minutes ago, 432 said:

I mean this: SOft-CPU controlled

Hard-directly controls feature

You will need to be specific as to what vehicle you would like to know about.

[Guest]

A drive by wire throttle system (electronic controlled) can have a light pedal, yes.  And what @Gix7Fiftyjust said.

[432]

2 minutes ago, Gix7Fifty said:

You will need to be specific as to what vehicle you would like to know about.

The way most vehicles use

[Middcore]

2 hours ago, 432 said:

I mean this: SOft-CPU controlled

Hard-directly controls feature

 

This is clarification you should have provided in the first post.

 

2 hours ago, 432 said:

The way most vehicles use

 

It may or may not be possible to generalize.

 

If you can explain the reason for your question and provide additional context someone may be able to provide more useful information. 

[Blue4130]

Are there any cars in 2021 that don't use drive by wire? I honestly don't know. 

[vetali]

20 minutes ago, Blue4130 said:

Are there any cars in 2021 that don't use drive by wire? I honestly don't know. 

It'd be hard to find any in 2010, let alone now.

 

Newer cars tend to be more touchy on the brake. They give a false sense of confidence for new car shoppers thinking that the car has good brakes. Gas pedals tend to be more on the numb side for emissions and fuel economy reasons. As far as weight, it purely depends on what the manufacturer wants.

[airborne spoon]

I don't know any cars that use drive by wire for the brake, that is extremely unsafe and i don't see it as being allowed.

Even Tesla who the computer can control the brakes if it needs to. the brake is still a manual hydraulic system, and when the computer uses the brake you can actually see the pedal move as the brakes are applied.

[Dedayog]

20 hours ago, 432 said:

I mean this: SOft-CPU controlled

Hard-directly controls feature

Most new cars are drive by wire.  Pedals and steering.  Only your high end sports are will still have direct connections to the road.

 

And yes, I hate drive by wire steering.

[SolarNova]

The accelerator should be light and easy to make fine adjustments.

 

The brake should start light and get progressively harder, but should NOT feel spongy.

 

The clutch should feel heavier than the accelerator with slight 'step' on the way down as it engages, however clutches can overall be heavy or light depending on the type and size used.

[Zodiark1593]

On 6/11/2021 at 11:51 AM, SolarNova said:

The accelerator should be light and easy to make fine adjustments.

 

The brake should start light and get progressively harder, but should NOT feel spongy.

 

The clutch should feel heavier than the accelerator with slight 'step' on the way down as it engages, however clutches can overall be heavy or light depending on the type and size used.

The only manual car I’ve driven is my Mazda 3, so I’ve no reference point for how heavy or light the clutch is (this car is pretty much The Standard for me), but I’ve been told it’s rather light, and difficult to feel the engagement. It’s weight is pretty similar to the accelerator pedal. 
 

I wouldn’t say that’s an incorrect assessment, as I work the clutch purely by muscle memory instead of tactile feel. Interestingly, switching my shoes is enough of a difference to throw this off somewhat for a day or two until I adjust. I wouldn’t mind a bit of a heavier clutch though.