Was Microsoft behind it all along? - Apple vs Epic Games update

[Bratstech]

Was Microsoft behind it all along?

 

Summary

a recent development, In the Apple vs Epic Games battle, Apple has accused Microsoft of secretly being behind this entire lawsuit. They claim that Epic has used as many witnesses associated with Microsoft at trial as it did its own. The evidence apple presents to this claim is that Microsoft began urging U.S. and European antitrust regulators to examine Apple’s practices and Mac’s market share growing while Windows PCs have stagnated. Microsoft denied the accusation even going as far to call it a "distraction".

 

In another turn Tim Cook himself has gone to testify against Epic Games. Defending the Company's policys and actions with the app store.

 

Quotes

Quote

"Apple Inc. injected a new level of intrigue in its bitter court fight with Epic Games Inc., suggesting the Fortnite maker was acting as a stalking horse for Microsoft Corp. and withholding evidence.

The iPhone maker made the accusations Wednesday night in a filing asking a judge to make an adverse credibility finding against Lori Wright, an Xbox executive who testified in the trial on behalf of Epic. That would mean the judge could ignore her testimony.

Apple asked for such a ruling earlier, but upped its accusations in the new filing. “A reasonable observer might wonder whether Epic is serving as a stalking horse for Microsoft,” Apple said. “Microsoft shielded itself from meaningful discovery in this litigation by not appearing as a party or sending a corporate representative to testify.” - Bloomberg

 

My thoughts

One of the most interesting cases that I've followed I wanna see the outcome. Its like a tv show drama happening in real time.

 

Sources

Epic Games lawsuit was secretly driven by Microsoft, says Apple - 9to5Mac

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/apple-accuses-epic-of-serving-as-a-stalking-horse-for-microsoft/ar-AAKevMs?ocid=BingNewsSearch

[PeachGr]

There's blood in the water guys

I thought I knew many dirty secrets, but it appears that I hardly even saw the tip of the iceberg

To indicate the obvious now, the trial wasn't about cheap fortnite skins for players! Everybody and his dog is on this trial

[Helpful Tech Witch]

How? Why? Huh?

Apple what you doing?

 

 

It's like they're trying to overt the blame because they know they might lose.that what this reads as.

[Bratstech]

I cant wait to see myself in the tech news again lol

[WolframaticAlpha]

28 minutes ago, Bratstech said:

Was Microsoft behind it all along?

 

Summary

a recent development, In the Apple vs Epic Games battle, Apple has accused Microsoft of secretly being behind this entire lawsuit. They claim that Epic has used as many witnesses associated with Microsoft at trial as it did its own. The evidence apple presents to this claim is that Microsoft began urging U.S. and European antitrust regulators to examine Apple’s practices and Mac’s market share growing while Windows PCs have stagnated. Microsoft denied the accusation even going as far to call it a "distraction".

 

In another turn Tim Cook himself has gone to testify against Epic Games. Defending the Company's policys and actions with the app store.

 

Quotes

 

My thoughts

One of the most interesting cases that I've followed I wanna see the outcome. Its like a tv show drama happening in real time.

 

Sources

Epic Games lawsuit was secretly driven by Microsoft, says Apple - 9to5Mac

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/apple-accuses-epic-of-serving-as-a-stalking-horse-for-microsoft/ar-AAKevMs?ocid=BingNewsSearch

Seriously? This has to be the weakest arguments ever. Almost a projection. I mean, Microsith earns it's money through the cloud now. Are apple's lawyer's still living in 2007, when it was mac vs pc?

 

And mac sales have only grown because of the M1. OS Share wise, it is chrome os that is seeing maximum expansion. Chrome OS is the bigger threat to MS(and to mac for that matter) than the mac.

 

 

Also everything that the xbox exec  said, could've been extracted from a Sony exec too.

 

Or maybe Microsoft is playing 5D chess where their long term goal is orwellian domination of the earth(And thus replace google as the bad monopoly). Who knows?

[Bratstech]

2 minutes ago, WolframaticAlpha said:

Seriously? This has to be the weakest arguments ever. Almost a projection. I mean, Microsith earns it's money through the cloud now. Are apple's lawyer's still living in 2007, when it was mac vs pc?

 

And mac sales have only grown because of the M1. OS Share wise, it is chrome os that is seeing maximum expansion. Chrome OS is the bigger threat to MS(and to mac for that matter) than the mac.

Apperently Intel is also living in 2007 cause they are doing the whole "Switch to PC" Ad move that Apple did. 

[WolframaticAlpha]

Just now, Bratstech said:

Apperently Intel is also living in 2007 cause they are doing the whole "Switch to PC" Ad move that Apple did. 

Hmmm. 2007 was a nice time. Maybe these guys should create a time machine rather than running sh!tty ad campaigns that show their vulnerability. 

[WolframaticAlpha]

18 minutes ago, PeachGr said:

There's blood in the water guys

I thought I knew many dirty secrets, but it appears that I hardly even saw the tip of the iceberg

To indicate the obvious now, the trial wasn't about cheap fortnite skins for players! Everybody and his dog is on this trial

The dirty nerd secrets shall tumble out. To watch more, subscribe to netflix and watch the show, "The stupid reality we live"./sarcasm

[Lord Bloobus]

Sounds like Apple is going to lose and trying to shove whataboutism around to get it muddy enough to mislead the case.

[Downkey]

5 minutes ago, WolframaticAlpha said:

Hmmm. 2007 was a nice time. Maybe these guys should create a time machine rather than running sh!tty ad campaigns that show their vulnerability. 

In 2007 I didn’t even know what Intel was. Hell, I didn’t even know what air was

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, Bratstech said:

Was Microsoft behind it all along?

 

Summary

a recent development, In the Apple vs Epic Games battle, Apple has accused Microsoft of secretly being behind this entire lawsuit. They claim that Epic has used as many witnesses associated with Microsoft at trial as it did its own. The evidence apple presents to this claim is that Microsoft began urging U.S. and European antitrust regulators to examine Apple’s practices and Mac’s market share growing while Windows PCs have stagnated. Microsoft denied the accusation even going as far to call it a "distraction".

 

In another turn Tim Cook himself has gone to testify against Epic Games. Defending the Company's policys and actions with the app store.

 

Quotes

 

My thoughts

One of the most interesting cases that I've followed I wanna see the outcome. Its like a tv show drama happening in real time.

 

Sources

Epic Games lawsuit was secretly driven by Microsoft, says Apple - 9to5Mac

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/apple-accuses-epic-of-serving-as-a-stalking-horse-for-microsoft/ar-AAKevMs?ocid=BingNewsSearch

Court can be like that.  Court has been major entertainment for some for hundreds of years.  There’s a reason there are audience benches.

Edited May 21, 2021 by Bombastinator

[da na]

Thought this was a sh*tpost about Bill Gates hacking the Covid vaccine

[Bombastinator]

57 minutes ago, Lord Bloobus said:

Sounds like Apple is going to lose and trying to shove whataboutism around to get it muddy enough to mislead the case.

Not impossible.  I dont know how likely that is though.  The impression I’ve been getting is that Apple is the one with the upper hand here.  If that’s not true though that could be possible.

 

its not a great predictor of who’s doing well though because it could be a “well that’s all over but the shouting.  Since we crushed it let’s use this to go after the others too”

Edited May 21, 2021 by Bombastinator

[Bombastinator]

58 minutes ago, WolframaticAlpha said:

Seriously? This has to be the weakest arguments ever. Almost a projection. I mean, Microsith earns it's money through the cloud now. Are apple's lawyer's still living in 2007, when it was mac vs pc?

 

And mac sales have only grown because of the M1. OS Share wise, it is chrome os that is seeing maximum expansion. Chrome OS is the bigger threat to MS(and to mac for that matter) than the mac.

 

 

Also everything that the xbox exec  said, could've been extracted from a Sony exec too.

 

Or maybe Microsoft is playing 5D chess where their long term goal is orwellian domination of the earth(And thus replace google as the bad monopoly). Who knows?

People not regulating or suing Google is a mystery to me.  Facebook gets things flung at it a lot, but Google does a lot of the same things.  Sometimes more heavily.

[Sauron]

That would be rich considering the antitrust violations Microsoft was responsible for in the past.

 

But also completely irrelevant to the case at hand.

[Jet_ski]

Satya Nadella to Tim Cook: it was me Tim, the author of your pain.

 

[TetraSky]

Apple will try to drag every other companies into this, aren't they.

[suicidalfranco]

Not even a year in and the defense is already running out of arguments?

[Arika]

this is some tinfoil hat levels of paranoia from Apple.

 

Next up: it was Nvidia's fault!!! this is them trying to get back at us after we banned the use of their GPUs in our products.

 

 

5 hours ago, Bratstech said:

“A reasonable observer might wonder whether Epic is serving as a stalking horse for Microsoft,”

literally crossed no-one's minds.

 

5 hours ago, Bratstech said:

“Microsoft shielded itself from meaningful discovery in this litigation by not appearing as a party or sending a corporate representative to testify.”

How DARE Microsoft not get involved in litigation between 2 entities that are not associated with them. They are hiding something!!!

[lostcattears]

LOL

[Mark Kaine]

Is this real?

[Kisai]

10 hours ago, Bratstech said:

 

 

My thoughts

One of the most interesting cases that I've followed I wanna see the outcome. Its like a tv show drama happening in real time.

 

Halt and Catch Fire (AMC) on Netflix did something like this, basically dramatization of the PC/Compaq cloning, invention of a cable modem, and the creation of an early MUD/AOL-like service.

 

Like I kinda want to see where this EGS fight is going, but it does seem like Epic undermines their own arguments by dragging in everyone.

[crystal6tak]

Didn't Apple drag Valve into the ordeal a while ago? What ever happened with that?

[krakkpott]

Looks like they gon milk the lawsuit to the max.

[Brooksie359]

12 hours ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

How? Why? Huh?

Apple what you doing?

 

 

It's like they're trying to overt the blame because they know they might lose.that what this reads as.

I would like to point out that this might just be something their lawyers came up with to throw out a testimony making their chances of winning the case even higher. It should also be noted that Microsoft is in fact a direct competitor to Apple and that could make this be a conflict of interest. Now I am not a lawyer so I have no idea what would be required to get a testimony thrown out for such a case but it sounds to me that's what Apples law team are attempting to do so I would assume there is at least some basis that they can do this.