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What if dollar collapses?

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It probably depends on what is done additionally to counter-act the extra printing of money and how much in the grand scheme of things will be printed.

More money in circulation is only bad if nothing is done to balance it towards other currencies.

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14 minutes ago, oskar23 said:

From multiple sources I hear that dollar will crash due to printing money out of thin air. 

I'd stop reading these "multiple sources" as they clearly don't know what they're talking about.

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22 minutes ago, oskar23 said:

From multiple sources I hear that dollar will crash due to printing money out of thin air. What would be consequences of that? Would it rise again? Never really thought of that but not sure if we should be somehow prepared..

Um. All currency kind works by printing money out of thin air. I think most of the world left the gold standard. Money is now supported by confidence in the market. As long as people have confidence in the dollar and the US's financial policy then the dollar will be fine. Also consider that some of the money printed replaces money that was damaged or destroyed. These bills dont last forever. 

 

 

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People also forget that fiat currency has no intrinsic value at all; it nominally has a value assigned to it by a central bank or government.

 

In actuality, the relationship between money printing and inflation can frequently be the inverse of the commonly held notion that printing more currency = higher inflation. Money printing is often done as a direct result of rising prices of key commodities like oil, rather than causing them.

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although they might be allowing a boatload of funds for the pandemic recession patch up, it might temporarily crash or bounce back at the given moment due to that effect, But it's not technically free dumping of printed money which is like the worst thing to to do. due to federal reserve system you need to pay that back internally in near future & value will start stabilizing or start stepping up. i don't wanna say the name since it will be political. but there was another tried/tested ideology that was too focused on this specific printing & dumping to patch a hole required in a similar by excessive radical way for specific ideologically value needs, blinded by needs versus focused on framework preventing things from collapsing. it collapsed in a decades time without proper backbone. eroded itself due its nature.

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33 minutes ago, WindirBear said:

All we have to do is not worry about, continue working and have faith in our economy.

I SHIT YOU NOT this will work.

Money is only valuable as long as people think it's valuable.

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Many people are dumping funds into crypto as they don't require a central bank to work

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We aren't headed that direction right now. If anything, we are headed in the opposite direction at the moment.

It's currently very hard to get cash, especially change, out of a bank in the US, especially in usable amounts (i.e. What a cash business needs to keep functioning). 

This means that cash is scarce, artificially or otherwise, and when scarcity increases, so does value.

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10 hours ago, HM-2 said:

I'd stop reading these "multiple sources" as they clearly don't know what they're talking about.

Yo they predicted an economic crisis. 

 

Took them a few hundred tries tho. 

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3 minutes ago, HenrySalayne said:

If your average bread costs 2 $ today, it will take "only" 314 years with annually 2% inflation to reach 1000$.

 

It's not so easy. The goverment may "steer" the value into a specific direction by doing certain things, but it cannot assign a value on the global market. There is a lot to learn from Bitcoins for example, which is a "limited" and unregulated currency.

i looked up bread price and found one for 0.88 at walmart and yes i redid the math and got 356. and we've actually been under 2% inflation for the past few years

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2 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

i looked up bread price and found one for 0.88 at walmart and yes i redid the math and got 356. and we've actually been under 2% inflation for the past few years

What magical place do you live that bread is $0.88 at Walmart?!

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4 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Many people are dumping funds into crypto as they don't require a central bank to work

Yeah but its just like USD. Its value is based on confidence in the market. Thats why Bitcoin has been such a rollercoaster. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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10 hours ago, HM-2 said:

People also forget that fiat currency has no intrinsic value at all; it nominally has a value assigned to it by a central bank or government.

 

In actuality, the relationship between money printing and inflation can frequently be the inverse of the commonly held notion that printing more currency = higher inflation. Money printing is often done as a direct result of rising prices of key commodities like oil, rather than causing them.

No intrinsic value? True. But so is gold. Gold has value only because people believe it has value.

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1 minute ago, Deli said:

No intrinsic value? True. But so is gold. Gold has value only because people believe it has value.

@HM-2 Exactly.  For example: In a post-apocalyptic society does anyone here really think anyone will give a crap about gold?  

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I can assure you it will not collapse (provided of course the government and or banks don't). I think something about how the US was going to print however much money in order to do this or that. At worst that'll lead to a bit higher than average inflation, at best normal inflation. 

 

That's not too say that one day the dollar will collapse. But so will society, and the government. Same with English. 

 

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8 minutes ago, piratemonkey said:

or banks don't)

The banks can collapse all they want. The government will just bail them out. Thats what the FDIC is for. Generally when a bank fails, the FDIC steps in and gets another bank to take them over, OR gives the bank a loan. The big issue is the repeal of Glass Steagall Act. This would have prevented the banks from collapsing in 08. Because it separated deposit banks from investment banks, granted investment banks might have failed, but who cares. But it was repealed because it was thought be be too restrictive. Honestly It should be reinstated. Wall Street is run by a bunch of idiots who dont learn, 1929 taught them morons nothing. 

 

12 minutes ago, piratemonkey said:

bout how the US was going to print however much money i

According to the power that be, we have a money shortage at the moment. So if anything they need to get back to printing and minting as much as possible. 

 

7 minutes ago, comander said:

assuming the global economy doesn't collapse... 

You can always count on Wall Street to collapse the economy. Thats their super power. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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8 minutes ago, comander said:

The dollar is also indirectly supported by the US nuclear arsenal.

Nukes are yesterdays news. With the smart bombs and stuff we have now. Nuke are not likely to ever be used. What supports our currency is the faith people put in to the system as well as the metric boat load of gold we have in Fort Knox. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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8 hours ago, Deli said:

No intrinsic value? True. But so is gold. Gold has value only because people believe it has value.

There's a difference here between agreed value that's as a result of market supply and demand, and nominal value that's given by a government or central bank.

 

Of course the complexities of international trade do come in, but there can still be very large divergence between domestic and international purchasing power of the same currency. You just need to look at the difference between Nominal and PPP GDP to see this illustrated.

 

My point, which I appreciate could probably have been clearer, was primarily to note that the relationship between money printing and inflation is nowhere near as linear as people often think. It's only when currency printing becomes significantly excessive that you end up with hyperinflation.

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