Moving from r5 3600 to 10700?

[CWellB]

Hi everyone, I need a new board and currently have a 3600 cpu. I would consider using this opportunity to upgrade for an improvement at fps over 100 @ 1400p. Of course I'd prefer 10700k but it's not available around me.

 

Worth buying z490 + 10700?

 

The specific games I want higher fps in are world war z and f12020. The closer I can get to 140fps the better. Squeezing more fps in borderlands 3 would be awesome if possible. 

 

-RTX 2080ti ftw3 gpu

Pg279q monitor. 

 

Thanks for any input. 

 

[Oswin]

would recommend waiting for zen 3 instead of moving to another platform now.

[CWellB]

4 minutes ago, Oswin said:

would recommend waiting for zen 3 instead of moving to another platform now.

Better to just buy a cheap b450 and stick with my 3600 for now? Any suggestions for the board. I had an asus prime b450m. 

[Oswin]

1 minute ago, CWellB said:

Better to just buy a cheap b450 and stick with my 3600 for now? Any suggestions for the board. I had an asus prime b450m. 

why would you need to replace your current board?

[Master Disaster]

5 minutes ago, CWellB said:

Better to just buy a cheap b450 and stick with my 3600 for now? Any suggestions for the board. I had an asus prime b450m. 

Better to buy nothing at all. Zen 3 should be out by the end of this year, if the plan was to replace the board & CPU then you might as well stick with what you have for now and grab an X670 paired with a 4600 when they drop. That way you'll get a brand new architecture for probably cheaper than the Intel upgrade and you'll have an upgrade path in the future.

[RAM555789]

4 minutes ago, CWellB said:

Better to just buy a cheap b450

No, unless you absolutely can't afford it get a B550 since they will be compatible with  Zen 3.

[CWellB]

2 minutes ago, Oswin said:

why would you need to replace your current board?

A few reasons, one being that I threw out the box with the stock backplate etc that I now need for a corsair h100i rgb platinum I just bought. 

 

Another reason is I don't get the fps I wanted from games like world war Z, F1 2020 and borderlands 3 anyway. 

 

I wouldn't say money isn't an object, but I could afford to get the zen3 platform anyway when it releases if it would give me the fps improvement I'm after. 

 

My understanding is higher fps (100+) relies on clock speed (Intel platforms) to really shine? 

 

 

[CWellB]

5 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

No, unless you absolutely can't afford it get a B550 since they will be compatible with  Zen 3.

Thanks this is very useful to know, there wouldn't be any compatibility issues other than a bios update and zen 3 should work with b550? 

 

 

[Letgomyleghoe]

2 minutes ago, CWellB said:

A few reasons, one being that I threw out the box with the stock backplate etc that I now need for a corsair h100i rgb platinum I just bought. 

 

Another reason is I don't get the fps I wanted from games like world war Z, F1 2020 and borderlands 3 anyway. 

buy a backplate, and your motherboard doesnt affect fps unless it isnt able to deliver enough a power

[CWellB]

11 minutes ago, Oswin said:

why would you need to replace your current board?

Bought a corsair h100i rgb platinum to cool the 3600 but I don't have the stock backplate etc from the board (must have tossed it out). 

 

I'm also not super pleased with the fps I get, I want closer to 120-140 so the current setup isn't really doing it for me. 

[CWellB]

1 minute ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

buy a backplate, and your motherboard doesnt affect fps unless it isnt able to deliver enough a power

Well the board can't support an Intel cpu and from what I've read, Intel cpus seem to do better at higher fps 

[Moonzy]

36 minutes ago, CWellB said:

Worth buying z490 + 10700?

it wouldnt be much of an improvement for you, a locked chip on an OC board is just naah

13 minutes ago, CWellB said:

Well the board can't support an Intel cpu and from what I've read, Intel cpus seem to do better at higher fps 

yea, but not by much in F1 2019 1440p

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your 3600 should do fine even without the H100i as long as you have a decent cooler on it, even stock cooler is fine i would say

[Haro]

10 hours ago, CWellB said:

at fps over 100 @ 1400p.

the cpu cetainly wont help a lot in that, the 3600 is fine, 

what board do you have now? and wait for zen 3. 

[CWellB]

4 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

it wouldnt be much of an improvement for you, a locked chip on an OC board is just naah

yea, but not by much in F1 2019 1440p

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your 3600 should do fine even without the H100i as long as you have a decent cooler on it, even stock cooler is fine i would say

It's hitting 95C under benchmarks on stock cooler with pbo enabled.

[CWellB]

3 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

the cpu cetainly wont help a lot in that, the 3600 is fine, 

what board do you have now? and wait for zen 3. 

 

3 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

the cpu cetainly wont help a lot in that, the 3600 is fine, 

what board do you have now? and wait for zen 3. 

Asus prime b450 but I don't have the necessary backplate anymore so I can't even attach the corsair h100i that I have. 

[Moonzy]

Just now, CWellB said:

It's hitting 95C under benchmarks on stock cooler with pbo enabled.

did u tighten the cooler enough?

a 3600 shouldnt run that hot on stock cooler unless

1) isnt mounted right

2) lack of paste

3) insufficient airflow

4) cracked TIM

[CWellB]

Just now, Moonzy said:

did u tighten the cooler enough?

a 3600 shouldnt run that hot on stock cooler unless

1) isnt mounted right

2) lack of paste

3) insufficient airflow

4) cracked TIM

I specifically bought a Lian Li dynamic to watercool the cpu, and on stock cooler with pbo enabled its getting really hot. This case wasn't really designed with air cooling in mind so I'm thinking that's probably why. 

[CWellB]

2 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

did u tighten the cooler enough?

a 3600 shouldnt run that hot on stock cooler unless

1) isnt mounted right

2) lack of paste

3) insufficient airflow

4) cracked TIM

Because of covid nothing is returnable and everything is final sale so I'm stuck with the corsair cooler and case at this point. 

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, CWellB said:

I specifically bought a Lian Li dynamic to watercool the cpu, and on stock cooler with pbo enabled its getting really hot. This case wasn't really designed with air cooling in mind so I'm thinking that's probably why. 

run it with panels opened, see if temps improve

isolate case airflow as an issue first

1 minute ago, CWellB said:

Because of covid nothing is returnable and everything is final sale so I'm stuck with the corsair cooler and case at this point. 

you can always save it for next build, or sell it

[Haro]

10 hours ago, CWellB said:

but I don't have the necessary backplate anymore so I can't even attach the corsair h100i that I have. 

wait the aio didn't come with it? just buy another board, either way a 50A board was never a good idea. 

[Mateyyy]

4 minutes ago, CWellB said:

I specifically bought a Lian Li dynamic to watercool the cpu, and on stock cooler with pbo enabled its getting really hot. This case wasn't really designed with air cooling in mind so I'm thinking that's probably why. 

No, the stock cooler's made to run the CPU at stock speeds/power draw, not PBO.

[CWellB]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

wait the aio didn't come with it? just buy another board, either way a 50A board was never a good idea. 

I'm leaning toward the b550 suggestion because it seemingly means I could swap to zen3 cpu later this year anyway and give the b450 + 3600 to my wife. 

 

Only thing holding me back from this is whether Intel would be a better option. 

 

I'm aiming for 140 minimum fps in my games and f12020 maxed out at 1400p runs at a lowest fps of 100 currently. 

[CWellB]

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

No, the stock cooler's made to run the CPU at stock speeds/power draw, not PBO.

I agree I was responding to the comment saying it should be fine. 

[Letgomyleghoe]

7 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

did u tighten the cooler enough?

a 3600 shouldnt run that hot on stock cooler unless

1) isnt mounted right

2) lack of paste

3) insufficient airflow

4) cracked TIM

keyword benchmark, stock cooler and pbo

 

27 minutes ago, CWellB said:

Well the board can't support an Intel cpu and from what I've read, Intel cpus seem to do better at higher fps 

 wont make a difference at 1080p, and b550 doesnt support intel either.

[schwellmo92]

At 1440p you'll be getting at worst case 0% more FPS, best case like 10%. But that's game dependent.