RTX 3080 image (maybe?)

[porina]

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Alleged pictures of the upcoming GeForce RTX 3080 graphics cards have been leaked on Chiphell. The models photographed by a leaker are clearly prototypes or engineering samples likely to be one of the many suggested designs for the final choice. The design does appear to be NVIDIA’s

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More images at source: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-pictured

Source of above source: https://www.chiphell.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2226236

 

It takes some thinking to get around how it is laid out. On the cooler side, there is a fan near the backplate. On the PCB side, there is a fan on the other end. So... that's an interesting cooling arrangement.

 

The other take away point is, if real, could a release of these be close? I don't know how much gap there might be between say prototype coolers and stuff in shops. 

 

 

Edit: poll added about the looks for the cooler.

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, porina said:

The other take away point is, if real, could a release of these be close?

I mean, what we don't know is how old these pictures are.

 

Also ampere has been in development for some years so I don't necessarily think a leak now means a release earlier than september.

[Haro]

3 minutes ago, porina said:

I don't know how much gap there might be between say prototype coolers and stuff in shops

If this was a recent thing and was real I will bleach my eyes it looks terrible

 

3 minutes ago, porina said:

The other take away point is, if real, could a release of these be close? I

Probably not 

We don't know if they will be a delay that might stop nvidea from launching it 

Just like the PlayStation event 

They were gonna stream it but they ended up delaying it last minute 

[porina]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

I mean, what we don't know is how old these pictures are.

 

Also ampere has been in development for some years so I don't necessarily think a leak now means a release earlier than september.

Good points. I suppose one way to think about it is, the closer you get to launch, the more people will have their hands on devices, and the higher the chance of a leak. I wonder now if there is a typical mean time between leak and availability? 

[TrigrH]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

If this was a recent thing and was real I will bleach my eyes it looks terrible

thats what everyone said about the pascal design leaks, then was legit.

[Haro]

Just now, TrigrH said:

thats what everyone said about the pascal design leaks, then was legit.

Yea but Pascal FE shrouds look good 

This looks like Fermi shrouds but worse 

[TrigrH]

3 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Yea but Pascal FE shrouds look good 

This looks like Fermi shrouds but worse 

I went digging (read the comments):

 

 

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

went digging (read the comments):

Holy shit it is accurate 

Dang it I don't want this to be real

I guess I'll have to wait until it grows on me 

[Thorium19]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

Yea but Pascal FE shrouds look good 

This looks like Fermi shrouds but worse 

oh god, those fermi shrouds  

These designs look off, because that's the top of the card on the bottom cooler, where the backplate is, yet the fan is visible, which would indicate a really short PCB for the top end card, which will be encouraging for really small form factor people. It also looks horrific having a fan visible from the backplate, way too much of a flashback for my liking. Guess it'll be up to the AIB partners to make good looking cards this time round.

[porina]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Holy shit it is accurate 

Dang it I don't want this to be real

I guess I'll have to wait until it grows on me 

There'll be AIB models to choose from anyway. 

[Mateyyy]

Took me a while to understand what I was looking at, wow it looks confusing. And wow that's a short and weirdly shaped PCB.

 

What I don't get is why they'd have two fans on either face of the card. Particularly the fan on the backside I find really odd. Like, what case is going to have air coming in from the top to feed that fan?

[Haro]

1 minute ago, porina said:

There'll be AIB models to choose from anyway. 

Yea but sometimes people go for the reference design and call it a day 

 

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

And wow that's a short and weirdly shaped PCB.

That  is a really short pcb 

Doesn't bring alot of hope for me although it has nothing to do with performance (for the most part) it's not a good first impression

[Mateyyy]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

That  is a really short pcb 

Doesn't bring alot of hope for me although it has nothing to do with performance (for the most part) it's not a good first impression

I mean they did this back in the day too with 1st gen Kepler, but only up to the GTX 670. Granted, if they are using HBM2, that allows for higher density so they'd save some space there, but still that doesn't explain what the deal is with the weird backside fan imo.

[porina]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Yea but sometimes people go for the reference design and call it a day 

If those people like the design there's no problem. You said you didn't like it, so if you go RTX you will have to look elsewhere.

 

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

That  is a really short pcb 

Doesn't bring alot of hope for me although it has nothing to do with performance (for the most part) it's not a good first impression

Why would a small PCB be bad?

 

I'm still trying to get my head around this. I'd also throw in another observation, I don't see obvious signs of PCIe power connectors in these images. Maybe it is on the end which is not shown? I think we have to throw out some assumptions of what current GPUs typically looks like when analysing this design.

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, porina said:

I think we have to throw out some assumptions of what current GPUs typically looks like when analysing this design.

This design looks like it's trying to hard 

Or trying to look "futuristic" I'm not into that but I'm sure some people are 

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Tedny said:

Looks moded 

What ?

[illegalwater]

That's an.. interesting fan setup they've chosen.

[leadeater]

Ewww.... no thanks

[porina]

Having had a little time to think about it, following is what I think is happening.

 

I had a look at a Radeon VII PCB for comparison as arguably the nearest we have today to what we might have next. The VII is more or less a full length card, but it isn't very densely populated. With optimisation, I think it has a fair chance of being reduced in footprint significantly.

 

Now the cooler... my current guess is that the rear fan blows through the card. This should offer great cooling. In typical tower cases, the intake to that would be just in front of the CPU cooler so wont affect that significantly.

 

The front fan is more limited in where it can push air. I think it will be a mix of going through the backplate like a blower, and also the diagonal fins in the mid section. So it would re-circulate in case. As the rear fan is not taking in air from that side, it wont be affected by the heat.

 

There will probably be a funky arrangement of heatpipes inside there to spread the heat around.

 

I'm still wondering where the PCIe power connectors would go. The end is the only logical position but that would imply some extensions back to the shorter PCB. From what can be seen I don't think there will be any big components on the back of the PCB.

[Haro]

6 minutes ago, porina said:

I'm still wondering where the PCIe power connectors would go. The end is the only logical position but that would imply some extensions back to the shorter PCB. From what can be seen I don't think there will be any big components on the back of the PCB.

Speaking about the pcie cable 

I was gonna say maybe they will have it at the end of the card like the Turing reference FE cards but then I saw the pcb and it was shorter than I thought so I don't know 

Unless nvidea Managed to make 7nm ampere a DUMB EFFICIENT architecture which with a 80 sku I doubt it's wattage is 75

[porina]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Speaking about the pcie cable 

I was gonna say maybe they will have it at the end of the card like the Turing reference FE cards but then I saw the pcb and it was shorter than I thought so I don't know 

Unless nvidea Managed to make 7nm ampere is DUMB EFFICIENT architecture which with a 80 sku I doubt it's wattage is 75

I just had a look at the 2080Ti FE and the power connectors are on the top edge most commonly used.

 

The power sockets don't have to be mounted to the PCB. I think it is not that difficult to mount it to the cooler, and use a connecting cable to return it back to the PCB.

 

And yeah, I don't think 75W is going to cut it, if you need a cooler like this. 

 

 

 

BTW everyone, I just added a poll for the looks.

[Haro]

1 minute ago, porina said:

The power sockets don't have to be mounted to the PCB. I think it is not that difficult to mount it to the cooler, and use a connecting cable to return it back to the PCB.

 

Hope that is the case 

 

1 minute ago, porina said:

And yeah, I don't think 75W is going to cut it, if you need a cooler like this. 

 

99.9% most likely 

But at this point everything is possible especially if they went 5nm (which I doubt because TSMC haven't released 5nm silicon have they ?)

[TetraSky]

It's ok... But I highly doubt this will be the final design, considering their past design and color scheme.

[porina]

3 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

But at this point everything is possible especially if they went 5nm (which I doubt because TSMC haven't released 5nm silicon have they ?)

I think a jump to 5nm for consumer when their announced server part went to 7nm makes it too big of a stretch. Whatever node they go do, I think they'll lean on the performance end of the scale and not power efficiency optimise, at least on consumer parts.

[Haro]

3 minutes ago, porina said:

I think a jump to 5nm for consumer when their announced server part went to 7nm makes it too big of a stretch. Whatever node they go do, I think they'll lean on the performance end of the scale and not power efficiency optimise, at least on consumer parts.

Yea I figured they won't go 5nm 

I personally haven't heard anything that TSMC have started 5nm production

But about efficiency 

I mean it's not that big of a stretch since that was basically Pascal 

It was an improved Maxwell but more efficient 

It could happen but it could not at the same time