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Intel's next NUC, code name Ghost Canyon has been leaked. It uses a modular type of approach called the Element (clickable link), where the CPU and motherboard are built as a single unit, that can be easily swapped out for future upgrades.

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No pricing as of yet, and hopefully them upgrade modules won't cost an arm and a leg otherwise it's defeats the purpose of being modular.

https://wccftech.com/intel-ghost-canyon-nuc-element-pc-review-leaked/

 

 

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so instead of just swapping the CPU we'll have to swap the board as well? Guess that's a way to get proper VRM with flagship CPUs... No no no, I mean a proper way for them to cut down use of materials with lower end CPUs.

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cpu and mobo as a single unit is bad. 

 

they should allow you to replace the cpu and the board seperately, given that intel cupports 2 gens of cpu's on a chipset usually. 

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4 minutes ago, Twilight said:

cpu and mobo as a single unit is bad. 

 

they should allow you to replace the cpu and the board seperately, given that intel cupports 2 gens of cpu's on a chipset usually. 

They're using mobile CPUs and the motherboard is proprietary.

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For consumers, this idea looks terrible.

 

For enterprise, on the motherland, seems like it would be a cool idea.  Need to upgrade someone's CPU?  Just swap out the board, no need to worry about getting a new mobo.  Want to add a GPU? You have a two wide pcie slot.

It's a small PC that looks easy to service, which seems like it would be great for businesses 

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Cursed Intel. First, AMD graphics cards appeared on NUCs, then this kind of s**t. ?

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I like it. I own a NUC and there is not much that is upgradeable. I do not think a CPU soldered to the motherboard is a new thing in the NUC line up. I would love to drop in a low powered e-sports GPU into a NUC.

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30 minutes ago, D.U.F.F. said:

Cursed Intel. First, AMD graphics cards appeared on NUCs, then this kind of s**t. ?

What do you have against AMD GPUs?  Sure they aren't the best preformance, but that's not what you buy a NUC for. 

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31 minutes ago, D.U.F.F. said:

Cursed Intel. First, AMD graphics cards appeared on NUCs, then this kind of s**t. ?

man really censored himself from saying shit

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19 minutes ago, Bacon soup said:

I like it. I own a NUC and there is not much that is upgradeable. I do not think a CPU soldered to the motherboard is a new thing in the NUC line up. I would love to drop in a low powered e-sports GPU into a NUC.

It has slots for dedicated graphics

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5 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

It has slots for dedicated graphics

combined with an 6/8-core cpu you could run a game server in a virtual machine and play on the device for a lan party all in one box.

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9 minutes ago, FezBoy said:

What do you have against AMD GPUs?  Sure they aren't the best preformance, but that's not what you buy a NUC for.

I own several NUC machines. All of the NUCs I own work well for the task where they were purchased. As for AMD graphics cards f*****g poor support for Linux. ?

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7 minutes ago, D.U.F.F. said:

I own several NUC machines. All of the NUCs I own work well for the task where they were purchased. As for AMD graphics cards f*****g poor support for Linux. ?

Exactly, you don't buy a NUC for the best performance, you buy it to do a task.

 

Bad linux support is a definitely valid gripe about AMD GPUs tho.  (Jtlyk nobody cares if you cuss.) 

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19 minutes ago, FezBoy said:

What do you have against AMD GPUs?  Sure they aren't the best preformance, but that's not what you buy a NUC for.

Tbf the AMD GPUs on the G model Kaby lake CPUs were a sham, advertised as "Vega" but it was just Polaris clusters.

 

58 minutes ago, FezBoy said:

For consumers, this idea looks terrible.

 

For enterprise, on the motherland, seems like it would be a cool idea.  Need to upgrade someone's CPU?  Just swap out the board, no need to worry about getting a new mobo.  Want to add a GPU? You have a two wide pcie slot.

It's a small PC that looks easy to service, which seems like it would be great for businesses

What are some of the Enterprise solutions that an RTX 2060 suits? The last gen nucs we're good because they offered more minimal, low power options but a full GPU doesn't seem apt for this consumer segment

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Interesting... when Element was revealed, the question was where was it going to be used. I imagined it in compact desktops, but didn't think down as far as a NUC. It was known then that storage and ram would be on the compute card, but good to know it is socketed and still removable/upgradeable. I see one more M.2 on the IO board so if you had some need to swap compute units you still have some persisting storage within the chassis.

 

Even with a 45W mobile CPU, that cooling doesn't look like much. This is not an overclocker's toy, more comparable to a laptop. You get it for a job, and no more.

 

You can guess the size from the backplate, and while it is small for a desktop it isn't really tiny.

 

Guess the big question is price...

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What are some of the Enterprise solutions that an RTX 2060 suits? The last gen nucs we're good because they offered more minimal, low power options but a full GPU doesn't seem apt for this consumer segment

Lowish power workstation?  Cad? CUDA development? 

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I don't see the value of this. I think it is silly. Might as well be a mini ITX system. They can be just as small, or close to, and fully serviceable. To me it is clear that Intel won't do update modules, or of they do, it will be once after the initial release module, and that no one will feature a CPu marginally faster than the old one, so no one will get it, and be cancelled.

 

Also, why is it so big. I mean the module looks like the size of the old NUC Skull Canon. Sure you can put a dedicated GPU. But if you can put one, you have all the know how to install your own CPU and RAM... so that is the point of the module?

 

It just makes no sense.

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1 hour ago, porina said:

Interesting... when Element was revealed, the question was where was it going to be used. I imagined it in compact desktops, but didn't think down as far as a NUC. It was known then that storage and ram would be on the compute card, but good to know it is socketed and still removable/upgradeable. I see one more M.2 on the IO board so if you had some need to swap compute units you still have some persisting storage within the chassis.

 

Even with a 45W mobile CPU, that cooling doesn't look like much. This is not an overclocker's toy, more comparable to a laptop. You get it for a job, and no more.

 

You can guess the size from the backplate, and while it is small for a desktop it isn't really tiny.

 

Guess the big question is price...

I have a Xeon D1541 that is also 45W, and the heatsink is rather tiny but I can't say it's ever gone over 65C at full load even in the tiny chassis that is in currently. The idle temp of the HD630 (48C) is also comparable to my Xeon D idle temp. I can't see this getting hotter than 80C unless a dGPU is added which would increase temps due to proximity.

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3 hours ago, D.U.F.F. said:

Cursed Intel. First, AMD graphics cards appeared on NUCs, then this kind of s**t. ?

 

2 hours ago, D.U.F.F. said:

I own several NUC machines. All of the NUCs I own work well for the task where they were purchased. As for AMD graphics cards f*****g poor support for Linux. ?

Then go curse at AMD for not supporting Linux not Intel. As for AMD graphics,some are also having problems with the latest version of Windows 10 built 1903.

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2 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

 

Then go curse at AMD for not supporting Linux not Intel. As for AMD graphics,some are also having problems with the latest version of Windows 10 built 1903.

 

And people still post pictures of Linus Torvalds sticking his finger up at NVIDIA.    The thing is no one can win, it doesn't matter what these companies do or produce,  there will always be someone who gets pissy because it doesn't suit their extremely specific needs.

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11 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

so instead of just swapping the CPU we'll have to swap the board as well? Guess that's a way to get proper VRM with flagship CPUs... No no no, I mean a proper way for them to cut down use of materials with lower end CPUs.

I mean, with Intel you need to swap boards every generation anyway so it's not like it changes whole lot lmao

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9 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

It just makes no sense.

About the only major use case I can see that kidna makes sense is to ease a system builder's life a bit. Keep one chassis. Drop in the CPU module of choice. Drop in optional GPU.

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12 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

Intel's next NUC, code name Ghost Canyon has been leaked. It uses a modular type of approach called the Element (clickable link), where the CPU and motherboard are built as a single unit, that can be easily swapped out for future upgrades.

Full specs are provided in the image

 

 

No pricing as of yet, and hopefully them upgrade modules won't cost an arm and a leg otherwise it's defeats the purpose of being modular.

https://wccftech.com/intel-ghost-canyon-nuc-element-pc-review-leaked/

 

 

"Can be swapped out to upgrade". Um, that's literally the entire PC. The only thing you get to keep... MS just invented... the PC case!!!

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12 hours ago, D.U.F.F. said:

I own several NUC machines. All of the NUCs I own work well for the task where they were purchased. As for AMD graphics cards f*****g poor support for Linux. ?

What are you talking about?

 

AMD support on Linux is fantastic. The driver is built right into the kernel. Are you running an appropriately recent kernel for your hardware?

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