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Intel: Project Element

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Intel has low key revealed a modular PC simply called Element, which was inspired by Razor's project Christine, that was show cased back at CES in 2014. In the working prototype, the Element consist of an

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Intel BGA Xeon processor, two M.2 slots, two slots for SO-DIMM LPDDR4 memory, a cooler sufficient for all of that, and then additional controllers for Wi-Fi, two Ethernet ports, four USB ports, a HDMI video output from the Xeon integrated graphics, and two Thunderbolt 3 ports.

The entire things looks like an ITX board, with a PCIe x16 slot connector at its bottom edge where it looks like

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Element becomes a generational product, then it would migrate to PCIe 4.0 and PCIe 5.0 / CXL as and when Intel moves its product families onto those technologies. Intel is planning to bundle the card to partners with a backplane – a PCB with multiple PCIe slots. One slot would be designated the master host slot, and the CPU/DRAM/Storage combination would go in that slot. Discrete GPUs, professional graphics, FPGAs, or RAID controllers are examples of cards that could fit into the other slots.

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The backplane would also be the source of power. A direct PSU into the backplane would serve as offering 75W to each of the PCIe slots, as well as any other features such as system fans or additional on-backplane controllers. This power could come from a PSU, or from a 19V input, depending on the exact configuration of the system. The Element card we saw had an additional 8-pin PCIe power connector, suggesting another 150W could be powered to the card, giving a total of 225W for CPU, DRAM, and storage: which would beg the question if the card could support something like a Core i9-9900KS.

For board partners, Intel stated that they are not seeing this Element form factor as something that partners would create themselves. In essence, there would be no AIB partners like in the GPU market, but for OEMs that to build pre-built systems, they could take the Element card and customize on top of the Intel design, as well as develop their own backplanes and such.

 

The design of Intel Element is not finalized yet and they're planning to set a time of Q1 2020. 

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https://www.anandtech.com/show/14953/the-pc-on-a-gpu-intels-new-element-brings-project-christine-to-life

 

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Look at the HDMI processor... Its on the side

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So it's a PCI powered Computer? 

 

we're starting to get into PC inception. Want a computer in your computer? now you can

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I am confused but intrigued 

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At first I thought this was a blade server like arrangement, but it isn't. The card is the main CPU of the system. I wonder if this could be the first alternative in desktop-like form factors in a while. Bad for overclocking, but maybe easier upgrading between generations.

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2 hours ago, Arika S said:

So it's a PCI powered Computer? 

 

we're starting to get into PC inception. Want a computer in your computer? now you can

Not exactly, this setup works by having a backplane where this card would connect and become the host of the system, its not a client, the idea is that OEM would make a chassis with a backplane where this would plug into and have standard expansion slots to connect the usual sort of stuff, GPUs, accelerators, network cards, HBA's etc. the idea is to make system upgradability as easy as project christine, instead of having to deal with the CPU socket and the like.

 

 

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2 hours ago, AlexGoesHigh said:

Not exactly, this setup works by having a backplane where this card would connect and become the host of the system, its not a client, the idea is that OEM would make a chassis with a backplane where this would plug into and have standard expansion slots to connect the usual sort of stuff, GPUs, accelerators, network cards, HBA's etc. the idea is to make system upgradability as easy as project christine, instead of having to deal with the CPU socket and the like.

 

 

And that different to having a standard ATX/ITX setup how exactly? The only real advantage i see is that you can yank the CPU/Memory/IO port/Storage combination as a discrete unit. Which IMO is pretty marginal as it includes at least two major elements you would want to upgrade in a modular fashion.

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As a sort of addendum to my prior post. The basic idea is good honestly, but they're trying to put too many things on the main board. Integrated IO and the CPU sure. But memory and storage need to be on seperate boards, and the memory at least isn't going to work through a standard PCI-E slot right now.For that matter any kind of high end GPU is going to be using a disproportionate amount of bandwidth.IMO they'd really need to have it connect through multiple ports. One dedicated to memory, the other dedicated to a 16X main port and the last for everything else. I believe the PCIE spec allows for 32x ports so in theory 2 of those with the second one split between main port and other ports could do it using PCIE-5.0. spec.

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I suppose this would make upgrading easier for people who don't want to put in extra time and effort?

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Who'ho! Back to the backplanes now with parts that you don't need to make yourself and apparently mech-stickers (those actually were better than the modern what-if-Megatron-and-disco-floor-had-a-child GPU-design).

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