Follow up on the Japan export ban on Korea

[appleache]

http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=33786

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Samsung Electronics is planning to raise its NAND flash memory price by 10 percent amid growing concerns about a disruption in production due to the Japanese government’s semiconductor material export restrictions. Other companies such as Micron Technology are likely to follow suit.

 

 

As side news, SSD in Chinese already begin to rise price a little bit now, good times for SSD might be ending boys

[realpetertdm]

Japan used trade bans!

Gamers hated it!

 

But for real though Japan can you not do trade bans because prices are gonna rise now

[Taf the Ghost]

Samsung announces "it's a great opportunity to raise prices...I mean prices will raise because of supply issues".

[realpetertdm]

30 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Samsung announces "it's a great opportunity to raise prices...I mean prices will raise because of supply issues".

Japan does actually supply around 90% of some of Samsung's materials. So it is an actual issue

[Trixanity]

2 hours ago, realpetertdm said:

Japan does actually supply around 90% of some of Samsung's materials. So it is an actual issue

Yeah but we've seen before that sometimes the price never really drops all the way down again especially when companies manage their supply in the aftermath to make sure the unit price never hits that low again. It genuinely appears that some companies view these short term disasters as a long term blessing in disguise.

[Kenpachi1985]

I am so happy right now to have already bought my samsung 970 evo plus, it was also on sale that time. Unless there is no crushing competition i,too, see no price drop coming after it has risen, no matter what the actual reason was.

[D13H4RD]

Well, good thing I got my SX8200 Pro 2 months ago

 

On a side note, this would have worked better as an update to the earlier thread. Just saying. 

[williamcll]

Probably means 15% on the consumer.

[rawrdaysgoby]

Doesn't change much it was going to go up regardless due to the cut in the global supply by 3-4% cuz of the outage. 

[appleache]

On 7/13/2019 at 6:44 AM, D13H4RD said:

Well, good thing I got my SX8200 Pro 2 months ago

 

On a side note, this would have worked better as an update to the earlier thread. Just saying. 

I kinda mess up the title, this should be a separate but related news. Let honest here, Samsung is going to rise the price after power outage, Japan export ban just a side note.

[WereCat]

On 7/13/2019 at 1:44 PM, D13H4RD said:

Well, good thing I got my SX8200 Pro 2 months ago

 

On a side note, this would have worked better as an update to the earlier thread. Just saying. 

I just ordered the SX8200 Pro 1TB for €145 (including 20% tax). 

That's the lowest I have ever seen it. I had my eye on a MX500 1TB for a long time as well, it can be had for around 100€ right now which is a really huge drop in price vs last year when I got the 500GB version for the same price. 

 

When we finally get RAM prices to normalise, we get SSDs to go back up... ugh... 

[YoloSwag]

Here's a video explanation -

 

[Tristerin]

Been wanting to get 2 more M.2 drives...guess I should just pull the trigger before its to late.

[SenKa]

The shame is none of this surprises me... Heres how it will go:

 

1. Random event related to NAND/Flash, often politically motivated
2. Samsung raises prices
3. Hynix raises prices
4. Micron raises prices
5. Toshiba somehow stays really cheap
6. Samsung, Hynix, and Micron get sued for price fixing
7. They settle, eat the fine, and live on as if nothing happened.
8. See step 1

The flaw with capitalism in economics is there becomes a point where the free market gains so much wealth they might as well be untouchable by their regulating bodies, these companies can eat a several hundred million dollar fine and open up a new manufacturing megaplant next week.

 

Shame SSD prices are going up tho, I was gonna get a new SSD for my laptop. 250GB is fine, but I would like more.

 

[Unixsystem]

3 hours ago, SenKa said:

The shame is none of this surprises me... Heres how it will go:

 

1. Random event related to NAND/Flash, often politically motivated
2. Samsung raises prices
3. Hynix raises prices
4. Micron raises prices
5. Toshiba somehow stays really cheap
6. Samsung, Hynix, and Micron get sued for price fixing
7. They settle, eat the fine, and live on as if nothing happened.
8. See step 1

The flaw with capitalism in economics is there becomes a point where the free market gains so much wealth they might as well be untouchable by their regulating bodies, these companies can eat a several hundred million dollar fine and open up a new manufacturing megaplant next week.

 

Shame SSD prices are going up tho, I was gonna get a new SSD for my laptop. 250GB is fine, but I would like more.

 

It seems to me that the problem is just that the fines are all set dollar amounts; I don't know that our regulatory bodies are set up to handle multi-billion dollar megacorps.

 

Seems like a set percentage on either profit or total revenue would be a much harder pill to swallow for these companies, especially since they would actually be fined in accordance with the benefits they gained from unflated prices.

[AkatsukiKun]

On 7/14/2019 at 11:32 AM, SenKa said:

The shame is none of this surprises me... Heres how it will go:

 

1. Random event related to NAND/Flash, often politically motivated
2. Samsung raises prices
3. Hynix raises prices
4. Micron raises prices
5. Toshiba somehow stays really cheap
6. Samsung, Hynix, and Micron get sued for price fixing
7. They settle, eat the fine, and live on as if nothing happened.
8. See step 1

The flaw with capitalism in economics is there becomes a point where the free market gains so much wealth they might as well be untouchable by their regulating bodies, these companies can eat a several hundred million dollar fine and open up a new manufacturing megaplant next week.

 

Shame SSD prices are going up tho, I was gonna get a new SSD for my laptop. 250GB is fine, but I would like more.

 

What I don't understand is why can't regulating bodies grow some balls and actually fine them a large enough amount that companies can't just laugh it off or actually make it there's actual punishment.

[The King of the Undead]

21 hours ago, AkatsukiKun said:

What I don't understand is why can't regulating bodies grow some balls and actually fine them a large enough amount that companies can't just laugh it off or actually make it there's actual punishment.

make it so samsung has to pay our debt and everyone wins except samsung.

[Mira Yurizaki]

21 hours ago, AkatsukiKun said:

What I don't understand is why can't regulating bodies grow some balls and actually fine them a large enough amount that companies can't just laugh it off or actually make it there's actual punishment.

You may as well dissolve the company at that point.

 

And then you have an angry mob of employees looking for work.

[Vorg]

You fine a company and they just raise prices or lower wages of their grunts or both. The slobs at the top resposible for it all are never touched.