Adobe Premiere is a joke - why does LMG use it?

[wasab]

Lol 

 

Adobe sucks indeed. 

[Kisai]

5 hours ago, BecauseICanTBH said:

After using Vegas Pro since 2010, I decided to give Adobe Premiere a try this year, since so many professionals use it.

 

I'm baffled, because after exploring it and using it pretty extensively, it honestly seems like a very expensive practical joke.

 

 

Does anybody know why people (especially LMG editors) use Premiere instead of better video editing software like Vegas?

 

Workflow is probably the most important reason. I've used Premiere since 1997 in some shape, then bought Vegas Pro 14 when there as a bundle sale on humble bundle. Using it however is not straight forward, but since I haven't updated from Adobe CS4, and I want to deal with 4K videos, it's either pay Adobe a stupid amount of money for little use, or learn another product.

 

With that said, If you are working on feature-film's at 8K your requirements will be substantially different from youtubers with 720p webcams. Almost nobody has a legitimate 4K camera setup (your goPro and smart phone are not real 4K cameras, as they don't have a global shutter) that would benefit from the hardware requirements of a high end video workstation. At best, the 4K footage that is acquired with an iPhone XS on a tripod might pass for not-garbage video input. But any reasonable video will be acquired with the camera on a fluid mount tripod or steadycam and the camera will have a global shutter to prevent warped images. So if you've already invested in $30,000 on your camera, the amount you pay for the software is irrelevant. Any extra money would be put into the workstation(s).

 

Which is the problem with asking "why are you using product X? Why not Y?", many high end setups dictate the use of very specific software. RED for example has software specifically for Adobe and Apple.

[BecauseICanTBH]

1 hour ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

Changing the main program that you use to do your work is a change in the process of workflow. Depending on how mature the process is, this will totally wreck productivity for a while. In a professional environment, a process will only get updated if it significantly improves productivity. If the gain is 0 or even say less than 15%, it may not be worth considering. If you want to use the argument that "but all that time/money saved could add up!" then the question becomes "when?" Because if the company recoups the cost of switching over in say 10 years, that may not be a worthwhile investment. But if they can recoup the cost in say a year or two, it might be worth considering.

I would think >5x faster exports would be a significant difference.

[Guest]

27 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

the best time for a studio to change NLEs is when there's a break in editing jobs to learn and be comfortable with the new one

 

which for any studio spells death ._.

(you can try hiring people that will only work in vegas and have a separate editing ecosystem against the adobe-based main office. doesn't make economical sense as well)

 

on an individual scale, that's definitely doable. heck, MKBHD and HardwareCanucks only switched NLEs because each of their projects are usually manned by one editor at any time ._.

This has been such a difficult concept to get across in this thread it seems. It'd be cool if @Edzel Yago could chime in.

[SenKa]

I take your Premier Pro and Sony Vegas, and raise you Final Cut Pro!

[SenKa]

22 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

BLENDER OR BUST

i'm not joking about blender. i am joking with the hyperbole though

But will it blend?

[DuctTapedGoat]

I have always preferred Adobe Suite for editing - not just Premiere. Audition for recording and editing audio, Photoshop for frame by frame editing, Illustrator for vector based text...

 

I also specifically edit on Adobe because of intercompatibility with Mac - with a copy of MacDrive or equivalent hfs for pc software, there is no barriers between handing off between mac and pc systems - making it very universal, and even more so with the 2019 PC ProRes Adobe codecs! The cost really isnt bad, 50 bucks a month comes back pretty quickly.

 

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[SeraphicWings]

Ah, last time I used Premiere for a client project, it randomly crashes without any reason and I have to waste 20 minutes redoing everything I’ve done

 

It’s hilarious how bad Premiere is optimized for PC, despite being a “professional” NLE

[Dredgy]

8 hours ago, BecauseICanTBH said:

I would think >5x faster exports would be a significant difference.

 

I don’t think they use Premiere to export, they have a render server so render time doesn’t really matter if it’s not hogging the editors machine. Even so, Adobe Media Encoder does have GPU acceleration.

 

Sony Vegas has a bunch of workflow issues, and Resolve and Final Cut are barely feature complete. It comes down to editor preference really and they obviously prefers Premiere and use some features of Resolve.

[Ja Krispie]

15 hours ago, VegetableStu said:

you'll understand when someone asks "why the hell would anyone use Vegas" ._.

Windows Movie Maker was the best! May it RIP

[Arika]

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why does LMG use it?

because it works for them.

[mr moose]

You know who doesn't argue which one is better or why?  professionals.  The worst you will see from them is the occasional slagging when a product they have been using goes objectively bad for them. 

[LeSheen]

13 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

Just taking their time to do it without having issues like remappikg all the shortcut keyboard.

Taran would lose like 2 whole days just rebinding his keyboards