UPDATE 2: iOS 11.3.1 FIXES The iPhone 8 If You've Replaced The Screen

[mr moose]

3 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

But as a whole Apple doesn't really give a shit about the right-to-repair bills and has been actively fighting to stop them. It doesn't strike me that this is where they would choose to give in.

Correct, and if it can be proven that this was intentional it would hurt their ability to fight such laws both legally and in the public eye. 

 

EDIT: to me it would be like a feminist goading reporters outside the court then getting upset becasue the public isn't taking her discrimination case seriously.

[Froody129]

On 4/11/2018 at 6:23 AM, Ryan_Vickers said:

Well the only way we'll know for sure is if someone can take a look at the code and the hardware I suppose, which we all know isn't going to happen.  But you have to admit it's awfully suspicious that they all just suddenly stopped working after an update.  Which is more likely: they intentionally bricked these things because they hate third party repairs (a fact that's well-known), or that they've added/updated something that works with the official apple displays but was somehow incompatible with all these third party ones?

Well seeing as even the OEM ones don't work when installed by a third party I'd say this is pretty obviously targeted at third part repair services.

[bcredeur97]

iOS 11.3.1 supposedly fixes this issue. Apple is calling it a "bug" but... is it?

 

 

I won't be surprised if we start seeing this at a hardware level on future phones. Like screens get tied with a signature to the motherboard or something. Will be really dumb....

[RedRound2]

On 4/11/2018 at 9:19 AM, iamdarkyoshi said:

Source

11.3.1 fixed it was a bug. You do have the responsibility to update the title and inform others 

[mr moose]

14 hours ago, bcredeur97 said:

iOS 11.3.1 supposedly fixes this issue. Apple is calling it a "bug" but... is it?

 

 

I won't be surprised if we start seeing this at a hardware level on future phones. Like screens get tied with a signature to the motherboard or something. Will be really dumb....

Don't give them ideas,  It's already unnecessary that individual hardware has unique identifiers beyond the IEMI.  

[Guest]

On 4/25/2018 at 11:51 AM, mr moose said:

 

Bricked iphones with updates is common, but this was a little too specific and more common than usual.   And coming right after their failure to properly advise of the battery thing,  one is more likely left to surmise a more nefarious reason for it's existence.

Quality control with Apple now it way more garbage than it used to be tbh. 

[iamdarkyoshi]

13 hours ago, RedRound2 said:

11.3.1 fixed it was a bug. You do have the responsibility to update the title and inform others 

Got a source I cite before making the change?

[RedRound2]

48 minutes ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

Got a source I cite before making the change?

https://9to5mac.com/2018/04/24/ios-11-3-1/

 

 

Edited April 26, 2018 by iamdarkyoshi
Removed Google Search Link

[iamdarkyoshi]

Sorry for the delay, been super busy. 

 

Updated thread.

[8uhbbhu8]

3 minutes ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

Sorry for the delay, been super busy. 

 

Updated thread.

Yeah. Busy working miracles  

[suicidalfranco]

"It's a bug"

i'll believe it just like how believed MS's w10 updates reseting your privacy preferences was a just bug 

[Qwertious]

Let’s not kid yourself here... this was likely not intentional and to believe that Apple would've gotten off on it without any backlash would be pushing it.

 

Not sure how the screens would've been rendered non responsive from an update is possible but it likely would've been an unintended bug to whatever update they did.

[Asche]

23 minutes ago, suicidalfranco said:

"It's a bug"

i'll believe it just like how believed MS's w10 updates reseting your privacy preferences was a just bug 

Funny.

 

But, it really could be just a bug.

That the thing with big companies : we assume that everything they do is on purpose, after all, they have a such internal checking and testing system that never fail. How could they push a bugged update ?

Here is the thing : It is still run by human that make mistake.

So i found it plausible that it was "just a bug". Okay it is not very likely, but considering that even replacing screen with a genuine one don't work... yeah that's a bit "too big" to be "on purpose". IMO.

[suicidalfranco]

5 hours ago, Asche said:

Funny.

 

But, it really could be just a bug.

That the thing with big companies : we assume that everything they do is on purpose, after all, they have a such internal checking and testing system that never fail. How could they push a bugged update ?

Here is the thing : It is still run by human that make mistake.

So i found it plausible that it was "just a bug". Okay it is not very likely, but considering that even replacing screen with a genuine one don't work... yeah that's a bit "too big" to be "on purpose". IMO.

Was error 53 also a "bug"?

The difference... actually not really that different between these two, they both got caught with their pants down doing a similar thing in the past 

[79wjd]

9 minutes ago, suicidalfranco said:

Was error 53 also a "bug"?

The difference... actually not really that different between these two, they both got caught with their pants down doing a similar thing in the past 

The difference is they didn't completely backtrack with error 53. They stopped it from bricking the phone but they still wouldn't let touch id work.

[DrMacintosh]

45 minutes ago, suicidalfranco said:

Was error 53 also a "bug"?

The difference... actually not really that different between these two, they both got caught with their pants down doing a similar thing in the past 

No, error 53 was intentional but they had to admit it went to far and gave the Home Button its ability to work again, but they also kept TouchID disabled for security reasons. 

[Sauron]

6 hours ago, Asche said:

Funny.

 

But, it really could be just a bug.

That the thing with big companies : we assume that everything they do is on purpose, after all, they have a such internal checking and testing system that never fail. How could they push a bugged update ?

Here is the thing : It is still run by human that make mistake.

So i found it plausible that it was "just a bug". Okay it is not very likely, but considering that even replacing screen with a genuine one don't work... yeah that's a bit "too big" to be "on purpose". IMO.

Apple seems to have a knack for phone bricking ios updates in recent years... some have been proven to be on purpose, some weren't, but given the frequency of them (you can literally google for "ios <8...11> bricks phones" and find an article for all of them) the only possible conclusions are 1) they are incompetent hacks (which I doubt) or 2) they do most of these on purpose. In both cases, perhaps they don't deserve their customers' money. And remember - Apple is against any third party repair, no matter what parts they use. They have a vested interest in making repairers look bad.

6 hours ago, Qwertious said:

to believe that Apple would've gotten off on it without any backlash would be pushing it.

And yet there was an army of people defending them tooth and nail, claiming it's reasonable to brick unofficial substitute parts that worked perfectly before the update and that legitimate replacements weren't calibrated correctly by the repairer.

[mrchow19910319]

9 hours ago, RorzNZ said:

Quality control with Apple now it way more garbage than it used to be tbh. 

have to agree with you on this.

[Qwertious]

10 minutes ago, Sauron said:

And yet there was an army of people defending them tooth and nail

Yes that is true, there are extreme fanboyism on Apple's side but in general Apple does receive a lot more hate than they get credit. Some people go lengths to defend company x while shitting on company y and this was no exception.

[Sauron]

4 minutes ago, Qwertious said:

in general Apple does receive a lot more hate than they get credit.

Maybe there's a reason - and usually the controversy gets a lot more press precisely because of the unrelenting apologism on the other side. When samsung made exploding phones everyone agreed it was a huge mistake and that was that. Apple, on the other hand, will have a bunch of people defending them no matter what they do.