Asus X470 boards

[NumLock21]

Leaked Asus board on the X470 for AMD Ryzen 2nd gen

 

 

 

[PopReference]

TUF, Strix, Pro and Crosshair guess Asus are going fully committed to x470.

 

The only noticeable additions from 370 are USB-C header and 2nd M.2 slot beside the chipset though.

 

interesting that they're uisng Asm 1142 chip compared to 1143 on the x370 boards, if you think this means anything.

[NumLock21]

27 minutes ago, PopReference said:

TUF, Strix, Pro and Crosshair guess Asus are going fully committed to x470.

 

The only noticeable additions from 370 are USB-C header and 2nd M.2 slot beside the chipset though.

 

interesting that they're uisng Asm 1142 chip compared to 1143 on the x370 boards, if you think this means anything.

So far these are the only leaked boards. Pro isn't part of their ROG, just their mainstream Prime line up.  Asmedia 1143 don't seem to exist on their site, only the 1142.

http://www.asmedia.com.tw/eng/e_show_products.php?item=158&cate_index=98

[Ginger_]

Well.. basically exactly what everyone expected. Slightly updated x370

[mr moose]

Must be a result of GPP. 

 

But seriously, if the ryzen2 performs well enough and turns out to be cheaper than the Intel counterparts then my next build is shaping up to be a very deep shade of red.

[Dissitesuxba11s]

Interesting to see that the full size PCIe slots are all x16. 

[BuckGup]

Just now, Dissitesuxba11s said:

Interesting to see that the full size PCIe slots are all x16. 

Yeah AMD doesn't artificially cap PCIE lanes like intel for no reason

[PopReference]

3 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

So far these are the only leaked boards. Pro isn't part of their ROG, just their mainstream Prime line up.  Asmedia 1143 don't seem to exist on their site, only the 1142.

http://www.asmedia.com.tw/eng/e_show_products.php?item=158&cate_index=98

I was basing that off the diagram from the 370 prime pro manual https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-X370-PRO/HelpDesk_Manual/ Could be a typo?

 

The Crosshair 6 has the 1142, just checked.

[Ryujin2003]

Um... Why the [expletive deleted] does that box have GAMING written on it?! It's got both SLI and Crossfire? Nvidia is gonna be pissed!

 

But in seriousness,

 

With USB 2.0 headers required for most AIO, and any 3rd party lighting, like Corsair Node, I do wish these boards would come with additional or at least a splitter.

Also.. That IO cover... Is that going to interfere with air coolers?

[WereCat]

10 minutes ago, Ryujin2003 said:

Also.. That IO cover... Is that going to interfere with air coolers?

If yes, RAM would interfere as well.

[Dabombinable]

2 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Yeah AMD doesn't artificially cap PCIE lanes like intel for no reason

AMD generally has really been less shit when it comes to things being locked down (still remember the days of unlocked multipliers for K6 - K-3+, when Intel was locking all of their Pentium II/III and Celeron down).

[leadeater]

4 hours ago, mr moose said:

Must be a result of GPP. 

Haha I was going to make the same joke .

Spoiler

Nvidia SLI logo on the box, GPP confirmed

 

[leadeater]

2 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Yeah AMD doesn't artificially cap PCIE lanes like intel for no reason

I might have to interject here, each die has 32 PCIe lanes in total so at least for x370 (all AM4 actually) they were capping PCIe lanes (20 + 4 chipset != 32). That's why TR was 64 lanes and EPYC has 128.

[SliceT]

Hopefully they don't change much on their Crosshair, such a good board. Same applies to the Taichi, why change something that works...

[cj09beira]

5 hours ago, leadeater said:

I might have to interject here, each die has 32 PCIe lanes in total so at least for x370 (all AM4 actually) they were capping PCIe lanes (20 + 4 chipset != 32). That's why TR was 64 lanes and EPYC has 128.

it might have been a good idea for them to remove that limit, as z390 might have more pcie lanes, don't know if am4 has enough pins though, maybe it will come with zen 2, who knows 

[leadeater]

6 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

it might have been a good idea for them to remove that limit, as z390 might have more pcie lanes, don't know if am4 has enough pins though, maybe it will come with zen 2, who knows 

The extra M.2 slot leads me to think they have increased it which would be nice.

[Trixanity]

3 hours ago, leadeater said:

The extra M.2 slot leads me to think they have increased it which would be nice.

Isn't it just further lane splitting? Or one from CPU and borrowing lanes from SATA/chipset to second slot.

 

I haven't seen any indication that they're gonna go past the 24 lanes they have now which is also why the rumor about the chipset being gen 3 is probably wrong. I mean the x4 gen 3 lanes that go to the chipset will be split into x8 gen 2 lanes like they do on 300 series boards.

Unless they unlock the extra lanes (why are they locked to begin with?) and either give an extra x4 from CPU to m.2 (they already have such a dedicated line so that would mean two dedicated m.2 slots from CPU) or they give full x8 gen 3 to the chipset which would allow x8 gen 3 or x16 gen 2 - which could allow a full gen 3 x4 bandwidth slot from chipset.

 

But still, all the leaks so far say that X470 is just a die shrink and optimization of X370 with stricter requirements for board components. I hope to be surprised though.

[BluJay614]

11 hours ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

Interesting to see that the full size PCIe slots are all x16. 

That may simply be referring to the size of those particular PCIe slots, and not how they are wired up.

[Doobeedoo]

So slight ugprade extra M.2 slot, Type-C header, different heatsink? Probably different power delivery for 2nd gen.

[Natalie Schoonbaert]

First X470 test

geekbench AMD Ryzen 5 2600X
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. X470 AORUS Gaming 5 WIFI
Single-Core Score: 4864
Multi-Core Score: 22235

 

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/7660003

[leadeater]

7 hours ago, Trixanity said:

Isn't it just further lane splitting? Or one from CPU and borrowing lanes from SATA/chipset to second slot.

 

I haven't seen any indication that they're gonna go past the 24 lanes they have now which is also why the rumor about the chipset being gen 3 is probably wrong. I mean the x4 gen 3 lanes that go to the chipset will be split into x8 gen 2 lanes like they do on 300 series boards.

Unless they unlock the extra lanes (why are they locked to begin with?) and either give an extra x4 from CPU to m.2 (they already have such a dedicated line so that would mean two dedicated m.2 slots from CPU) or they give full x8 gen 3 to the chipset which would allow x8 gen 3 or x16 gen 2 - which could allow a full gen 3 x4 bandwidth slot from chipset.

 

But still, all the leaks so far say that X470 is just a die shrink and optimization of X370 with stricter requirements for board components. I hope to be surprised though.

Could be, the x370 Asus Crosshair VI Extreme actually has 2 M.2 slots and for that board.

 

Quote

The PCIEX8_2 slot shares bandwidth with M.2_2

https://www.asus.com/nz/Motherboards/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-EXTREME/specifications/

 

Still hoping for more lanes, they are there but I think they are reserved for other things.

[Drak3]

18 hours ago, leadeater said:

I might have to interject here, each die has 32 PCIe lanes in total so at least for x370 (all AM4 actually) they were capping PCIe lanes (20 + 4 chipset != 32). That's why TR was 64 lanes and EPYC has 128.

It might not be artificial though. I sincerely doubt AMD would restrict 8 lanes when it'd just give further advantage against Intel.

[ravenshrike]

21 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Yeah AMD doesn't artificially cap PCIE lanes like intel for no reason

Hey now, Intel has very specific financial reasons for doing so. That those reasons are scummy is a different matter entirely.

[NumLock21]

[Mira Yurizaki]

On 3/27/2018 at 7:09 PM, Dissitesuxba11s said:

Interesting to see that the full size PCIe slots are all x16. 

 

On 3/27/2018 at 7:10 PM, BuckGup said:

Yeah AMD doesn't artificially cap PCIE lanes like intel for no reason

Unless Ryzen 2 has 32 PCIe lanes available or the board is using a PCIe switch, those aren't going to provide 16 lanes at the same time.