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Just now, Lord Nicoll said:

8 way Titan Xp 3D Mark runs? 

Not possible :(

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1 minute ago, Lord Nicoll said:

8 way Titan Xp 3D Mark runs? 

:x:x Don't give me ideas!

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Don't get your hopes up yet.

1) This is supposedly a leak, which are not reliable.

2) These seem like official benchmarks, which are not reliable either.

So that's two reasons for not trusting them. It sounds promising, but keep your excitement to a minimum until reliable third party benchmarks and official prices are out.

 

 

21 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

AM I READING THIS RIGHT.

 

the single socket 16c EPYC will cost less then $700 and the dual socket capable CPU's is $1100-$600. so Threadripper shouldn't be more then $1000.

No you are not reading it right. It says "above $700", not under.

 

If this slide is correct then the 16 core epyc will cost between 700 and 1000 dollars. So maybe like 800?

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Just now, Bananasplit_00 said:

could work with the vapor chambre and two or three fans i would say

well almost all rack chassis of that size have 6 (technically 12) fans, so really air flow isn't an issue, and actually, with a single socket in the middle and 8 DIMM slots on either side, you could fit a massive massive heatsink. 

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1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Not possible :(

Ay, As far as I know 3D mark can only go to 4, however I know of several other programmes that love as many GPUs as possible. 

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Just now, Lord Nicoll said:

well almost all rack chassis of that size have 6 (technically 12) fans, so really air flow isn't an issue, and actually, with a single socket in the middle and 8 DIMM slots on either side, you could fit a massive massive heatsink. 

i doubt the chip would be nice and cool but it would work atleast lol, heatsink would cost you loads though

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

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Just now, Lord Nicoll said:

Ay, As far as I know 3D mark can only go to 4, however I know of several other programmes that love as many GPUs as possible. 

Who cares? Will those applications get you on the 3dMark HOF? xD

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48 minutes ago, revsilverspine said:

not to mention they could also pull another dick move and make it a 4-cpu config only thing, so you have to buy 4 of them to use them on a $5000 motherboard.

Don't forget the pci lane unlocking key you have to buy to use extra PCI-E lanes for raid setups, for which you have to buy another key (not included ) but only purchasable with Intel ssds !  That way it can works with non intel ssds, but you have to buy them anyway! 

Is your business wallet ready for bankruptcy ? 

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Just now, Bananasplit_00 said:

i doubt the chip would be nice and cool but it would work atleast lol, heatsink would cost you loads though

Yes, because some fancy copper really matters when I'm spending probably 2000 USD+ on memory, about another 500 USD+ for the chassis and probably around like 4000USD for the processor, then add the software, which can easily go into the 5 digits, some fancy copper is going to matter hahahaah

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1 minute ago, Lord Nicoll said:

Ay, As far as I know 3D mark can only go to 4, however I know of several other programmes that love as many GPUs as possible. 

you could split it into sevral VMs all running benchmarks for some super inexplicable reason! also 16 gamers one CPU could be a thing lol

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

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The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

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#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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25 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

But this one has 4x more memory channels and 8x more PCIe lanes(I think), I don't think that it's too cautious....

I know, but what is your estimated impact of more channels and lanes on power consumtion and heat generation, vs. the impact of higher voltages, clocks, and core-count (they have 4 times more cores at 180W)?

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1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Who cares? Will those applications get you on the 3dMark HOF? xD

No, but they'd make you money and process data, who cares who's ion the HOF is your company can't process data fast enough and you loose a million dollar contract. 

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1 minute ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

you could split it into sevral VMs all running benchmarks for some super inexplicable reason! also 16 gamers one CPU could be a thing lol

Virtualization on Ryzen isn't very good, so don't get your hopes up...

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1 minute ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

you could split it into sevral VMs all running benchmarks for some super inexplicable reason! also 16 gamers one CPU could be a thing lol

Get dual GPU cards from AMD (I bet they'll make one for vega, that have up until now) and dual socket 32 cores, and you could have 32 gamers one CPU, you could host a game server, and all the servers players, on a single machine. 

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Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

Virtualization on Ryzen isn't very good, so don't get your hopes up...

it has become better with the recent bios or something. Or it will be in july or something. Was on a WAN show

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1 minute ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

I know, but what is your estimated impact of more channels and lanes on power consumtion and heat generation, vs. the impact of higher voltages, clocks, and core-count (they have 4 times more cores at 180W)?

Anyways TDP doesn't mean anything, the 32 core will definitely draw more than 180W under load

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1 minute ago, Lord Nicoll said:

No, but they'd make you money and process data, who cares who's ion the HOF is your company can't process data fast enough and you loose a million dollar contract. 

look, if i had a server with a few of these CPUs, and say a 1080 or something, i WOULD run benchmakrs on work time. who dosent want to utterly destroy Cinebench? or 3Dmark? the physics score would get you so much score that you could run on a god damn GTX 750TI and still be at the top!

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

Builds:

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The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

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"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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33 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Performance looks promising, but:

  • AVX performance is clearly not taken into account
  • They are comparing EPYC to older Xeons, we don't know how EPYC stacks up vs Skylake Xeons

Neither do we know how these even perform to be fair :P it's not like they purposely compared them to older models

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1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Virtualization on Ryzen isn't very good, so don't get your hopes up...

i know, its pretty poop but its getting better. think Limeware had a working thing in house that they told Linus about, think he mentioned it on the WAN show a few weeks back :) 

2 minutes ago, Lord Nicoll said:

Get dual GPU cards from AMD (I bet they'll make one for vega, that have up until now) and dual socket 32 cores, and you could have 32 gamers one CPU, you could host a game server, and all the servers players, on a single machine. 

thats two CPUs though :P 

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

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The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

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"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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Just now, Bananasplit_00 said:

look, if i had a server with a few of these CPUs, and say a 1080 or something, i WOULD run benchmakrs on work time. who dosent want to utterly destroy Cinebench? or 3Dmark? the physics score would get you so much score that you could run on a god damn GTX 750TI and still be at the top!

I would also, but make sure the boss isn't watching, or if he is tell him the rival company is beating their scores and hope he has a competitive nature and enjoys some joking around with thousands of dollars of equipment because go big or go home. 

Yours faithfully

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Just now, Bananasplit_00 said:

thats two CPUs though :P 

As Linus mentioned, it might be two but the principle is still the same. 

Yours faithfully

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Just now, laminutederire said:

Neither do we know how these even perform to be fair :P 

Exactly, but I still think that comparing EPYC to older Broadwell Xeons isn't very fair, since Skylake-X is quite a bit better (more L2 cache, better IPC, AVX-512 etc)

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3 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Virtualization on Ryzen isn't very good, so don't get your hopes up...

 

2 minutes ago, DeezNoNos said:

it has become better with the recent bios or something. Or it will be in july or something. Was on a WAN show

Why is virtualization bad? Are there pass through issues?

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Just now, djdwosk97 said:

 

Why is virtualization bad? Are there pass through issues?

i did not digg deep enough

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Just now, djdwosk97 said:

Why is virtualization bad? Are there pass through issues?

Idk, Linus once said on the Wan Show that the creators of UnRaid told him that virtualization on Ryzen isn't a very good experience

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