Intel tells Core i7-7700K owners to stop overclocking

[79wjd]

Just now, N1ghtshade said:

Hold up

 

$900

 

For a 9590?

 

What the fuck was AMD thinking?

They weren't.

[Dabombinable]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

They weren't.

It was actually $999 FYI.....the same as my AMD based 2010 Pavilion DV6 3010AX in its entirety.

[AntonChigurh]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

They weren't.

AMD: "Oh hurr durr let's launch a consumer-grade CPU for $900 seems like a great idea"

 

AMD had a stick up their ass if they thought anyone would pay $900 for that thing

[WMGroomAK]

8 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

People: My CPU that I delidded myself and overclocked is running hot! Intel fix this!

Intel: Well if you don't want it running hot then don't overclock it. Overclocking makes things run hotter. Also, please remember that overclocking voids your warranty, and so does delidding.

Media: INTEL TELLS CUSTOMERS TO STOP OVERCLOCKING!

People: OH MY GOD DID INTEL REALLY SAY THAT!?

 

It seems like the 7700K has some heat issue, especially when overclocked, but come on people... You can't overclock, complain about how hot the chip runs and then scream at Intel when they tell you that a chip runs cooler at stock.

 

Besides, overclocking has always voided your warranty, even with AMD chips. But neither Intel nor AMD has a way of checking if you have overclocked or not so it has (as far as I am aware) never come into play.

 

Quote from AMD Ryzen Community update #3:

 

Did people seriously not know this? Like, for real? People expected their warranty to cover overclocking too?

Just because you bought a processor that can overclock does not mean the manufacturer endorses it or cover it in the warranty.

 

Edit: And yes, some manufacturers will in fact cover warranty claims on products even if they have been overclocked. Those are fairly rare and exceptions rather than the norm though. One example of this is EVGA (or at least they used to).

Weren't Kaby Lake i7's reported to be runnning hot when overclocked back when they were released???  I think the bigger issue, if it is true, is that there are some i7-7700's and some non-OCed 7700k's that are being reported to spike up to near the thermal limit.

 

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/gamers-report-core-i7-7700-temperature-spikes.html

 

[79wjd]

3 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

It was actually $999 FYI.....the same as my AMD based 2010 Pavilion DV6 3010AX in its entirety.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8316/amds-5-ghz-turbo-cpu-in-retail-the-fx9590-and-asrock-990fx-extreme9-review

http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-fx-9590-8-core-cpu-review_190566

[Coaxialgamer]

1 hour ago, djdwosk97 said:

Here, buy this CPU that is identical to a cheaper model but with the ability to overclock.

 

But don't overclock it. 

except the 7700k is quite a bit faster than the 7700 . But that's beside the point  

[Dabombinable]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

I'm almost positive it was $900.

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8316/amds-5-ghz-turbo-cpu-in-retail-the-fx9590-and-asrock-990fx-extreme9-review

http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-fx-9590-8-core-cpu-review_190566

It seems to have been buried, but for a short while it was effectively $1000 after the quiet launch...and before tech sites really picked up on it.

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

except the 7700k is quite a bit faster than the 7700 . But that's beside the point  

7-10% higher clockspeeds for 12% more for the cpu + 50% more for an overclocking motherboard. 

[Dabombinable]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

10% higher clockspeeds for 12% more for the cpu + 50% more for an overclocking motherboard. 

I love Haswell...it doesn't care if its overclocked on a H or B series chipset (Asus H87M Pro in my case) because it doesn't rely heavily on the motherboard's VRM.

[VagabondWraith]

8 minutes ago, N1ghtshade said:

AMD: "Oh hurr durr let's launch a consumer-grade CPU for $900 seems like a great idea"

 

AMD had a stick up their ass if they thought anyone would pay $900 for that thing

Well, it does replace the need for a furnace during cold winters, so...

[AntonChigurh]

Just now, VagabondWraith said:

Well, it does replace the need for a furnace during cold winters, so...

 

[PlayStation 2]

The CPUs already cost quite a decent amount more than the locked versions, why not spend an extra probably less than a dollar to make sure they actually run alright OC'd, Intel?

Edited May 4, 2017 by Dan Castellaneta
A bit more context

[Jito463]

1 hour ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

We do not recommend running outside the processor specifications, such as by exceeding processor frequency or voltage specifications, or removing of the integrated heat spreader (sometimes called 'de-lidding'). These actions will void the processor warranty. - Intel

Technically speaking, both AMD and Intel say the same thing.  No matter what processor you have (unlocked or otherwise), overclocking automatically voids your warranty.

[Dabombinable]

10 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

The CPUs already cost quite a decent amount more than the locked versions, why not spend an extra probably less than a dollar to make sure they actually run alright OC'd, Intel?

Its not like there aren't alternative, long lived TIM that perform better. And they could maybe save some money over time by reducing the gap between the IHS and die, by reducing the amount of sealant used to fix the IHS to the package.

Edit: Fun fact, my i5 4440 idles far lower than my 4790K with the 4790K locked to 3.1GHz and HT disabled (plus the cache running at 3.1GHz).

[Jito463]

30 minutes ago, N1ghtshade said:

Hold up

 

$900

 

For a 9590?

 

What the fuck was AMD thinking?

The Athlon64 X2 4800+ for Socket 939 was also $1,000.  I know, because I decided to "save my money" by buying the Athlon64 X2 4400+ at a slightly lower clock speed for only $500.

 

And I just finished reading through the thread, and realized @LAwLz beat me to it about AMD and Intel both voiding warranty on overclocking.

[AntonChigurh]

Just now, Jito463 said:

The Athlon64 X2 4800+ for Socket 939 was also $1,000.  I know, because I decided to "save my money" by buying the Athlon64 X2 4400+ at a slightly lower clock speed for only $500.

 

And I just finished reading through the thread, and realized @LAwLz beat me to it about AMD and Intel both voiding warranty on overclocking.

Only $500?? What a steal!

[Misanthrope]

Might as well release a statement that says "....Yeah we fucking give up, go buy an R5 1600 instead until we figure shit out for our next line up"

[Cartoons Plural]

1 hour ago, N1ghtshade said:

Why? That makes no sense. "Oh I have product X, which performs function A well but not function B. But Product Y performs function B well, but not function A, so Product Y is dead to me."

Maybe he uses function A more than he uses function B?

[Valentyn]

34 minutes ago, N1ghtshade said:

Only $500?? What a steal!

At the time of Pentium Extreme Editions also being $999, it really was!

I was a "cheap" bastard and got the 4400+ myself; bloody thing lasted years! Had it until I gave the system to a friend before building an Intel E8500 system. Still kicking myself for not getting the Q6600 to pair with my 8800GTX

 

I miss the days of proper competition.  Even AMD's 3800 and 4200 budget chips could punch into Intel's EE CPU performance and exceed sometimes.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/1676/7

[NumLock21]

3 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

Here, buy this CPU that is identical to a cheaper model but with the ability to overclock.

 

But don't overclock it. 

That's like a fire truck. Need firetruck to put out fire, but there is a sticker on the back that says, keep back 200 feet.

[Prysin]

5 hours ago, Misanthrope said:

Might as well release a statement that says "....Yeah we fucking give up, go buy an R5 1600 instead until we figure shit out for our next line up"

Intel is gone. Unless they match AMD spec for spec, and price for price, AMD will steal half their market share within the next 5 years. Even then, AMD might gain more market share due to being way more forward leaning and nimble. Also, their marketing campaigns has been spot on lately.

[The Sloth]

Just now, Prysin said:

Intel is gone. Unless they match AMD spec for spec, and price for price, AMD will steal half their market share within the next 5 years. Even then, AMD might gain more market share due to being way more forward leaning and nimble. Also, their marketing campaigns has been spot on lately.

 

 

i really hope so, let the leapfrog game begin again. 

[Jakeus]

7 hours ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Hmmmm...what can I say? Some people are going to be a tad pissed as they spent more money just to OC? On the bright side they have addressed the poor thermal perf of Kabylake CPUs...by making some people really pissed off  

Anyway, I don't think this will affect intel too much so...meh I guess? 

 

source: http://www.pcgamer.com/intels-tells-core-i7-7700k-owners-to-stop-overclocking-to-avoid-high-temps/?

 

Edit: Fuck, I'm 2 mins late  

 

Second edit: Maybe not, looks like someone hasn't been following guidelines  

Way to get on WAN show

[Vode]

Just saying this again.

 

The Core 2 Duo E8600 was a 107mm2 die that was soldered. 

 

There is just no fucking excuse to use cheap ass TIM especially with margins as high as Intel has...

 

Intel just abused their market position to drive margins up even further and cheap out on the TIM while charging extra for an unlocked multi.

 

So glad Ryzen is competitive. We need it badly.

 

 

 

 

 

[Humbug]

AMD be like....