NVIDIA Announces GP102-based TITAN X with 3,584 CUDA cores

[Tech_Dreamer]

Honestly i was expecting too much from the specs section , kinda disappointed now

[2FA]

Volta based Titan $1500? 

[ApolloFury]

rip no hbm2

[79wjd]

9 minutes ago, Liltrekkie said:

I'm really surprised it doesnt come with HBM2 memory, considering how exclusive the TITAN line is supposed to be, the cost of HBM would be well worth it for such an exclusive card anyway. 

 

Lets be honest, the TITAN series has always been a "because i can" thing. I wonder if itll be as power hungry and hot as the last TITAN X

It's more likely a shortage of HBM2 rather than a cost issue. 

 

I'd expect it to be somewhat similar considering the 1070 is 170w~ and the Titan X 2016 is about 60% faster than a 1070/980Ti, which would put it at about 250w. 

[dalekphalm]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

It's more likely a shortage of HBM2 rather than a cost issue. 

Agreed. NVIDIA seems to be having supply issues as it is, when using GDDR5 and GDDR5x. Pascal GPU's are still in pretty short supply.

 

NVIDIA probably simply can't get enough HBM2 to satisfy the orders they have, and the expected numbers they think they'll sell.

 

Plus, hey, this gives them the opportunity to sell us a slightly upgraded Titan X in 6 months with a no doubt huge markup

[Liltrekkie]

10 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

It's more likely a shortage of HBM2 rather than a cost issue. 

 

I'd expect it to be somewhat similar considering the 1070 is 170w~ and the Titan X 2016 is about 60% faster than a 1070/980Ti, which would put it at about 250w. 

Is the shortage that bad then? Because if it's that bad then it explains it but as I understood it, there were yeild issues, and they couldnt pump super amounts out, but considering how exclusive the TITAN is, and how far away we are form release anyway, and probably dev time, they couldnt build up a supply of HBM2???? If it had HBM2 then the card would sell a lot more units because of that, 

[dalekphalm]

Just now, Liltrekkie said:

Is the shortage that bad then? Because if it's that bad then it explains it but as I understood it, there were yeild issues, and they couldnt pump super amounts out, but considering how exclusive the TITAN is, and how far away we are form release anyway, and probably dev time, they couldnt build up a supply of HBM2???? If it had HBM2 then the card would sell a lot more units because of that, 

Honestly I don't know how much more sales they would have gotten with HBM2 as a selling feature.

 

Anyone who is likely to buy a Titan X replacement, will likely do so whether it has HBM2 or not. Having that additional feature might give them a few more sales, but I'm highly skeptical that it would make that big of a difference.

[Briggsy]

Looks like we have our first true 4K Max settings card. Can't wait to see the 1080ti that will launch just before Vega (insert troll face here) and steals its thunder. 12GB of memory suggests 384bit memory bus, which means the 1080ti will likely have 9GB, which would be a first in graphic cards but not surprising.

[79wjd]

7 minutes ago, Liltrekkie said:

Is the shortage that bad then? Because if it's that bad then it explains it but as I understood it, there were yeild issues, and they couldnt pump super amounts out, but considering how exclusive the TITAN is, and how far away we are form release anyway, and probably dev time, they couldnt build up a supply of HBM2???? If it had HBM2 then the card would sell a lot more units because of that, 

Its release is less than two weeks away, I wouldn't exactly call that far away. 

[patrickjp93]

20 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

It's more likely a shortage of HBM2 rather than a cost issue. 

 

I'd expect it to be somewhat similar considering the 1070 is 170w~ and the Titan X 2016 is about 60% faster than a 1070/980Ti, which would put it at about 250w. 

There's no shortage of HBM2, mainly because of Samsung. However, Nvidia is making lots of Teslas, and those are a priority. Since no one besides Nvidia is currently using GDDR5X, it makes sense for it to use it as a cheaper but equally well-performing alternative.

[branden_lucero]

where's my flaming middle finger picture. 

[dfg666]

What year is this? 2013? Kepler? GCN 1.0/1.1? Did we just travel back in time?

 

2013
GTX TITAN $999 MSRP vs R9 290X $549 MSRP = 290X came out on top. https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_290X/27.html
GTX TITAN Z $3000 MSRP vs R9 295X2 $1500 MSRP  = R9 295X2 came out on top, let alone the pricing. http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/66869-nvidia-titan-z-performance-review-13.html

 

2016
GTX TITAN X (Pascal) $1200 MSRP vs RX 490X $600 MSRP? = RX 490X comes out on top?
GTX TITAN X (Dual GPU) $3600 MSRP? vs RX 495X2 (Dual GPU) $1800 MSRP? = RX 495X2 comes out on top?

[rattacko123]

Copying Razer's naming scheme

[FloRolf]

Wow Nvidia you are so fucking high... 

Titan P would've been a good name actually... 

[Briggsy]

26 minutes ago, branden_lucero said:

where's my flaming middle finger picture. 

Nvidia are already adding it on the 1080 Ti, for all the 1080 buyers.

 

[Serin]

Still only 12gb of vram. Dammit dammit dammit! I was really hoping they weren't going to set that as the upper limit to preserve their workstation market.

[SurvivorNVL]

Gimme.  I want two.  I'll take two.  I will physically take them.  Right now.  

[79wjd]

37 minutes ago, dfg666 said:

What year is this? 2013? Kepler? GCN 1.0/1.1? Did we just travel back in time?

 

2013
GTX TITAN $999 MSRP vs R9 290X $549 MSRP = 290X came out on top. https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_290X/27.html
GTX TITAN Z $3000 MSRP vs R9 295X2 $1500 MSRP  = R9 295X2 came out on top, let alone the pricing. http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/66869-nvidia-titan-z-performance-review-13.html

 

2016
GTX TITAN X (Pascal) $1200 MSRP vs RX 490X $600 MSRP? = RX 490X comes out on top?
GTX TITAN X (Dual GPU) $3600 MSRP? vs RX 495X2 (Dual GPU) $1800 MSRP? = RX 495X2 comes out on top?

I think someone is missing the fact that the Titan isn't designed to compete directly against other gaming cards. 

 

Titan ($1000, Feb 2013) = 780 ($650, May 2013) = 290 ($400, Nov 2013, 780 was $500 at this point)

Titan Black ($1000, Feb 2014) = 780Ti ($700, Nov 2013) > 290x ($550, Oct 2013)

Titan X = 980Ti ($650, June 2015) > Fury X ($650, June 2015)

 

It wasn't until around the release of Maxwell that the 290x pulled ahead of the 780Ti and that was likely to do with the fact that GCN was still receiving the full focus of AMD whereas Nvidia began focusing on Maxwell. 

 

The 490 will likely compete with the 1070, the 490x with the 1080, and the Rage X (Fury2 X) with the 1080Ti/Titan X 2016.

[Belgarathian]

This is going to make the Vega showdown extra interesting....

[zMeul]

2 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

I am guessing no 1080ti as this is GP102

well, the failed GP102 that couldn't end up Titan X will most likely end up GTX1080Ti

and nVidia will sell them for 800-900$

Edited July 22, 2016 by zMeul

[Rune]

Just now, zMeul said:

well, the failed GP102 that couldn't end up Titan X will most likely end up GTX1080Ti

Likely.

[mattebad]

2 hours ago, HKZeroFive said:

Ugh, reusing the 'TITAN X' naming scheme is going to cause some confusion.

 

There doesn't look to be a Founder's Editon (hopefully) and an extra $200 over the previous reiteration isn't actually that bad.

It's not even using HBM2, there is absolutely no reason for them to raise the price another $200 besides the fact that they are gouging their customers until Vega releases

[iwasaperson]

I would have considered it if it was GP100, but now I'll just wait for Vega or the 1080 Ti. No way I'm spending $1200 on what the 1080 Ti will probably be with more RAM. I'm especially excited for Vega since AMD seemed to have greatly improved their Linux drivers with the RX 480 (although still not on the same level as Nvidia's drivers).

[Tech Inquisition]

This news has my mangina quivering in anticipation...

[Senzelian]

This doesn't seem to leave room for a potential 1080Ti, because the Titan has only 12GB of VRAM.
Launching a 1080Ti with 12GB of VRAM and a few more cuda cores would seem kind of useless.