Gigabyte accidentally confirms more Ampere SKUs, 3080 20GB, 3070 16GB & 3060 8GB

[Master Disaster]

Videocardz noticed that Gigabytes Watch Dogs Rewards website lists more SKUs than have currently been announced.

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Gigabyte’s Watch Dogs Legion code redeeming website lists many graphics cards that have not been announced by the manufacturer. In fact, these cards have not even been announced by NVIDIA yet.

The cards all seem to have the S moniker attached to them, possibly for Super?

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The product list features GeForce RTX 3060 (S – SUPER?) 8GB model, GeForce RTX 3070 16GB (S- SUPER?) and Geforce RTX 3080 20GB (also labelled S). It remains unclear if the S means a SUPER series, or as our sources tend to believe, the Ti models.

 

The GeForce RTX 3080 20GB model is not expected to feature a higher core count than the just-released 10GB model, thus we are unsure if the product code is not final or the card might actually feature 3080 Ti or 3080 SUPER branding.

 

This leak confirms memory configurations that we speculated for at least two months now. The GA104-based RTX 3060 model will feature 8GB memory while the supercharged RTX 3070 model with full GA104 GPU (6144 CUDAs) is expected to feature 16GB of GDDR6 memory.

Source - https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-confirms-geforce-rtx-3060-8gb-rtx-3070-16gb-and-rtx-3080-20gb

Gigabyte page - https://hk.aorus.com/game_bundle.php?Page=593#

 

Holy crap, its not even been 24 hours since the 3080s launched and we already have pretty solid confirmation of the Supers.

[Fatih19]

As most people already speculate, Nvidia has a plan B to fight AMD just like the Super series back in mid-2019. Very interesting. 

[Moonzy]

interesting...

wonder if they'll launch it anyway if AMD Radeon was a dud

[Yashiees]

1 hour ago, Master Disaster said:

Videocardz noticed that Gigabytes Watch Dogs Rewards website lists more SKUs than have currently been announced.

The cards all seem to have the S moniker attached to them, possibly for Super?

Source - https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-confirms-geforce-rtx-3060-8gb-rtx-3070-16gb-and-rtx-3080-20gb

Gigabyte page - https://hk.aorus.com/game_bundle.php?Page=593#

 

Holy crap, its not even been 24 hours since the 3080s launched and we already have pretty solid confirmation of the Supers.

When will the (S-SUPER or the TI) cards come out around? Would they come out when amd release there new gpus? or next year? Seems like they've got ALOT of cards on the line to be released.

[Maticks]

if AMD is not a DUD then we will see Super if its 3070 performance no Super till the sales numbers fall off a cliff, maybe 2021?

[GoodBytes]

The more memory model of the GeForce 3080 is a given, considering the missing memory chips on the PCB of the Founder Edition 3080 (if you saw a teardown video or picture of the PCB).

 

So it was clear that they had it designed it, day 1, to make a higher memory model, or possibly even a Ti model (faster GPU and more memory), which can be the case with the missing power components to the left of the board.

[Maticks]

1 minute ago, GoodBytes said:

The more memory model of the GeForce 3080 is a given, considering the missing memory chips on the PCB of the Founder Edition 3080 (if you saw a teardown video or picture of the PCB).

 

So it was clear that they had it designed it, day 1, to make a higher memory model, or for a Ti model (faster GPU and more memory), which can be the case with the missing power components to the left of the board.

 

 

That is only going to give you 12G, when they go 20G they will need to populate the back of the card as well like the 3090. something Nvidia hasn't done in some time. curious to see how memory clocks when its double sided and how cooling is when its double sided.

[Taf the Ghost]

3 hours ago, Fatih19 said:

As most people already speculate, Nvidia has a plan B to fight AMD just like the Super series back in mid-2019. Very interesting. 

It's not really a "Plan B". It's Plan A, they just have variants pre-planned. They do occasionally cancel them, however. Or in the case of the 2060S/2070S, are forced to change plans because they screwed things up.

[AlexGoesHigh]

19 minutes ago, Maticks said:

That is only going to give you 12G, when they go 20G they will need to populate the back of the card as well like the 3090. something Nvidia hasn't done in some time. curious to see how memory clocks when its double sided and how cooling is when its double sided.

They also could use 2gb chips instead of 1gb chips, which i think is what they will do since the back of the 3080 doesn't have space for more memory chips.

[Maticks]

19 minutes ago, AlexGoesHigh said:

They also could use 2gb chips instead of 1gb chips, which i think is what they will do since the back of the 3080 doesn't have space for more memory chips.

that is completely possibly also... we know they are doing memory on the back of the 3090's it could be possible that units that fail testing will have some their CUDA's disabled to be a 3080 and memory chips be pulled to make it 20GB. maybe they will go with that PCB for the 3080 Super. who can say at this time. yeilds are suppose to be better this time around though.

[GoodBytes]

1 hour ago, Maticks said:

That is only going to give you 12G, when they go 20G they will need to populate the back of the card as well like the 3090. something Nvidia hasn't done in some time. curious to see how memory clocks when its double sided and how cooling is when its double sided.

12GB is only assuming that the current chips are still being used. They can replace the other chips.

The 3090 is a different PCB. The card and PCB is much larger.

[DildorTheDecent]

2 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

The 3090 is a different PCB. The card and PCB is much larger.

The 3080 FE and 3090 FE use the same PCB.

[Mister Woof]

Hot Take:

 

1. 3080 10gb models hyped up as $699

2. 3080 10gb model made in limited quantities, intentionally

3. 3080 20gb models release more RAM and faster clocks, AIB only, phasing out 10gb models.

4. 3080 20gb models are $900 for the basic ones, $1100 for the better cooler variants

5. 3080 10gb models were never intended for mass sale, and were intended to be marketing hype to claim they sold cards for $699

6. Nvidia laughs to the bank while managing to charge people yet again $1100 for a 2080 ti +20% replacement while claiming it was $699.

 

Like auto ads with $19,999 car but only one and the rest are all $29,999

[dwl2234]

1 hour ago, Mister Woof said:

Hot Take:

 

1. 3080 10gb models hyped up as $699

2. 3080 10gb model made in limited quantities, intentionally

3. 3080 20gb models release more RAM and faster clocks, AIB only, phasing out 10gb models.

4. 3080 20gb models are $900 for the basic ones, $1100 for the better cooler variants

5. 3080 10gb models were never intended for mass sale, and were intended to be marketing hype to claim they sold cards for $699

6. Nvidia laughs to the bank while managing to charge people yet again $1100 for a 2080 ti +20% replacement while claiming it was $699.

 

Like auto ads with $19,999 car but only one and the rest are all $29,999

Will the price of 3080 20Gb be 900$? 

[Deli]

1 hour ago, Mister Woof said:

Hot Take:

 

1. 3080 10gb models hyped up as $699

2. 3080 10gb model made in limited quantities, intentionally

3. 3080 20gb models release more RAM and faster clocks, AIB only, phasing out 10gb models.

4. 3080 20gb models are $900 for the basic ones, $1100 for the better cooler variants

5. 3080 10gb models were never intended for mass sale, and were intended to be marketing hype to claim they sold cards for $699

6. Nvidia laughs to the bank while managing to charge people yet again $1100 for a 2080 ti +20% replacement while claiming it was $699.

 

Like auto ads with $19,999 car but only one and the rest are all $29,999

Good thinking.

[Mister Woof]

9 minutes ago, dcakewalkgamer said:

Will the price of 3080 20Gb be 900$? 

That's made up

 

But i find it unlikely they will be $699 still. Even if we're going by AIB, they 10gb versions are around $750. If we are conservative and say you pay an extra $100 on top, that means base models (if they even exist) might be $799. Add in AIB models, you're closer to $900 already. The fancy ones will be even more.

[Deli]

11 minutes ago, dcakewalkgamer said:

Will the price of 3080 20Gb be 900$? 

Depends on how AMD plays their cards.

[dwl2234]

2 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

That's made up

 

But i find it unlikely they will be $699 still. Even if we're going by AIB, they 10gb versions are around $750. If we are conservative and say you pay an extra $100 on top, that means base models (if they even exist) might be $799. Add in AIB models, you're closer to $900 already. The fancy ones will be even more.

fuck I am already paying 1000$ here in India just for FE 699 cards on Nvidia site which is 71K, 900$ will just taking the cards to 90K I guess which is 1200$

[WkdPaul]

So, the 3080 is around $1000 CAD (700 USD = $920 CAD, but it's ALWAYS higher than the exchange rate)

 

The 3070 is going to be $700 CAD (500 USD = 660 CAD), so the 3060 might be around 400-500 CAD?

 

Performances look great for the 3080, but from my point of view, it's not that much cheaper than the 2000 series for the mid-low tier ... unless I'm missing something?

[AnonymousGuy]

Kinda sucks...10GB not enough, 20GB too much.  

[Shimejii]

23 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Kinda sucks...10GB not enough, 20GB too much.  

10GB is Plenty enough for the VAST Majority of people. People are really overestimating it IMO, The Core clock, Architecture, and memory speed, as well as power limitations become the Limiting factor WELL before the memory.

[AnonymousGuy]

4 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

10GB is Plenty enough for the VAST Majority of people. People are really overestimating it IMO, The Core clock, Architecture, and memory speed, as well as power limitations become the Limiting factor WELL before the memory.

Thing is...the 3080 is faster than the 2080Ti which had 11GB.  The Maxwell Titan X had 12GB at a time when absolutely no game could even get above 8GB (with settings that made the card get <30fps anyways).  

 

I think 12-16 would have been a sweet spot but they wanted to intentionally leave the "base" card a little underspeced so they could sell a Super/Ti later.

[Deli]

11 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Thing is...the 3080 is faster than the 2080Ti which had 11GB.  The Maxwell Titan X had 12GB at a time when absolutely no game could even get above 8GB (with settings that made the card get <30fps anyways).  

 

I think 12-16 would have been a sweet spot but they wanted to intentionally leave the "base" card a little underspeced so they could sell a Super/Ti later.

Jensen Huang knows how to milk the most out of gamers.

[Shimejii]

13 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Thing is...the 3080 is faster than the 2080Ti which had 11GB.  The Maxwell Titan X had 12GB at a time when absolutely no game could even get above 8GB (with settings that made the card get <30fps anyways).  

 

I think 12-16 would have been a sweet spot but they wanted to intentionally leave the "base" card a little underspeced so they could sell a Super/Ti later.

Id say its primarily about cost. GDDR6 Cost around 12$ per GB, GDDR6X should cost around 20-26$ Per GB if going by the Doubling of cost per Generation (GDDR5 was 6$ per) so instead of costing 200$ for the 10 GB, would you have paid another 150$+ for another 6 GB of Vram? For the vast majority of people thats going to be a No, 700$ is already pretty expensive, going to 850-900 for the "Flagship" Would be bad for them since they already saw how little the 2080TI sold before Qurantine and the 2080/2070. They also pretty much know how much VRAM is going to be needed for most games, and if they need they will put more on the more expensive models.

[Mister Woof]

48 minutes ago, wkdpaul said:

So, the 3080 is around $1000 CAD (700 USD = $920 CAD, but it's ALWAYS higher than the exchange rate)

 

The 3070 is going to be $700 CAD (500 USD = 660 CAD), so the 3060 might be around 400-500 CAD?

 

Performances look great for the 3080, but from my point of view, it's not that much cheaper than the 2000 series for the mid-low tier ... unless I'm missing something?

How much are 2070/2080 Supers there?