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Is a Ryzen 5 3600 enough for 1440p gaming? Is there A big perfomance difference when going with a 10600k?

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Is there a big perfomance benefit for going for like a 10600k instead of a 3600 when gaming at 1440p?


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2 minutes ago, zeltrabas said:

Is there a big perfomance benefit for going for like a 10600k instead of a 3600 when gaming at 1440p?

A 10600k (especially if you plan to OC) is a clear winner if all you do is game, but a 3600 is no slouch. That said as you move to higher resolutions the demand is more GPU bound. What GPU are you pairing this with?


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3300x is almost identical in performance and both can game on 4k ultra with stable 60fps. I think you can save some money by going with it than 3600


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I'm currently running a Ryzen 5 3600 at 1440p and have no problems at all keeping a stable 80-100fps in most games. Obviously it depends on what graphics card you are working with. I could probably higher fps if I had a better graphics card (currently using a GTX 1060). 

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Neither CPU is a slouch when it comes to gaming. Get whatever one's cheaper and/or more useful for your needs.


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10 hours ago, WikiForce said:

3300x

wont last as long due to it being a 4c/8t, if money allows, a 3600 will last longer.

 

10 hours ago, zeltrabas said:

10600k instead of a 3600 when gaming at 1440p?

well the 10600k is better in gaming, the 3600 is as well in all honesty, at 1440 there is more load to the gpu and the difference wont be huge. 

if you already have an am4 board go for the 3600, but the 10600k is pretty good as well. 

 

 

10 hours ago, Quickstrike said:

However, you'll have no upgrade path.

you do know comet lake is lga 1200 right?

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19 minutes ago, zeltrabas said:

Is there a big perfomance benefit for going for like a 10600k instead of a 3600 when gaming at 1440p?

Purely based on performance in the moment, get a 10600K

However, you'll have no upgrade path. LGA 1151 is on the way out because of PCI express 4.0
if you get a gen 2 Ryzen  (that a 3XXX) with an X-570 or B-550 mobo, the new mobo will support at the very least next Gen Ryzen and already support PCIe 4.0.

if Nvidia or AMD makes a PCIe gen 4 card, you'll be stuck at PCIe 3.0.

 


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Depends on what you want. 3600 + a better more expensive gpu will give you much more fps with highest settings 1440p while 10600K will give more max fps with cheaper card on low settings.

 

 

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32 minutes ago, zeltrabas said:

Is there a big perfomance benefit for going for like a 10600k instead of a 3600 when gaming at 1440p?

No, at high resolution the gpu probably the key of faster framerate.


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26 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

you do know comet lake is lga 1200 right?

yep, it's still a PCIe 3.0 architecture AFAIK.


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10 hours ago, Quickstrike said:

it's still a PCIe 3.0 architecture AFAIK.

how does that matter? and there's still one more gen coming for this socket. we don't know what will happen with that. 

 


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9 minutes ago, Quickstrike said:

yep, it's still a PCIe 3.0 architecture AFAIK.

Having pci-e 3.0 isn't much of an issue, unless you need pcie-4.0 SSD's, or want to add a lot of storage.

It depends on what you want though, the 3600 and a B550 board is cheaper so you can spend more on a GPU.

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A 10600k (especially if you plan to OC) is a clear winner if all you do is game, but a 3600 is no slouch. That said as you move to higher resolutions the demand is more GPU bound. What GPU are you pairing this with?

Im going to build a new pc in about a month when new nvidia gpus come out, so probably a 3080 or something


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At 1440p you really won’t notice a difference between the intel and ryzen cpu. 
I went from ryzen 1700x to 3700x at 1440p and the difference wasn’t worth the $280 cost of the cpu. I sold the 3700x for $250 and went back to the 1700x and don’t regret that choice. 
 

1440p is such a different animal then 1080p. The performance difference between cpus isn’t as big as most people think. 
 

I would go with the 3600 and b550 board and spend the saved money on a better video card or a big ssd 


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22 minutes ago, zeltrabas said:

Im going to build a new pc in about a month when new nvidia gpus come out, so probably a 3080 or something

Well if gaming is the primary purpose then go for the 10600k if the budget allows you too. That will be the better gaming CPU, and if you spend some time with an OC you can match the 10900k.


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1 hour ago, TofuHaroto said:

wont last as long due to it being a 4c/8t

modern 4c/8t cpu is still ok for gaming and most tasks

6 cores are overrated, hyperthreaded quadcores are actually still decent

just look at how 3100 and 3300x beat flagship 7th gen i7 7700k


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1 minute ago, WikiForce said:

just look at how 3100 and 3300x beat flagship 7th gen i7 7700k

wow, so the 3300x / 3600 will be a big upgrade to my 4770k, no?


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If you want a better upgrade path and a bit of money saved, the 3600 is the way to go.

If you only game and get as many frames as possible, then go for the 10600K.

Ultimately depends what GPU you're gonna be pairing it with.

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On current GPUs, there's minimal difference at 1440p between the two chips except for a few games.

 

Look to the 1080p results to give you an idea of what more powerful GPUs might look like on these same CPUs.


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6 hours ago, zeltrabas said:

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short version, anything 2070S or under, go with the 3600, 2080S or 2080 ti go with the 10600k, waiting for ampere? go with the 10600k. Cannot recommend 3600 for ampere cards.

 

Long version: the difference btwn zen 2 and comet lake is understated in general. The amoere rumors are hinting at some huge cpu bottlenecks with ampere even at 1440p. If you are gonna spend 1k for the 3080, the extra 200usd for a 10600k+cooler will be worth it considering the cost of the build. My best guess of cpu bottleneck at 1440p with a 3080/3080 ti is 10% for a 10600k and 25% for a 3600, for a 3080 and up i recommend a 10700k or waiting for zen 3.


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I'd go with the 3600 cause of the better value. The marginal performance value of the 10600K over the 3600 is minor, and given the price differential especially once you consider a Z-chipset board for the 10600K I see really no reason to go with the 10600K


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4 hours ago, zeltrabas said:

wow, so the 3300x / 3600 will be a big upgrade to my 4770k, no?

No, but you should have mentioned your current specs in OP. Go with 3600 then, easy choice.

Would be great in future when more games would start to utilize 6 core or 12 threads


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24 minutes ago, xg32 said:

short version, anything 2070S or under, go with the 3600, 2080S or 2080 ti go with the 10600k, waiting for ampere? go with the 10600k. Cannot recommend 3600 for ampere cards.

 

Long version: the difference btwn zen 2 and comet lake is understated in general. The amoere rumors are hinting at some huge cpu bottlenecks with ampere even at 1440p. If you are gonna spend 1k for the 3080, the extra 200usd for a 10600k+cooler will be worth it considering the cost of the build. My best guess of cpu bottleneck at 1440p with a 3080/3080 ti is 10% for a 10600k and 25% for a 3600

People said 720p benchmarks on a 1080ti didn't matter when comparing the 8700k to the 1600

 

Looks like history proved them wrong.


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