Robocalls on the rocks, SHAKEN and STIRred - FCC pushes for end of Robocalls OR ELSE

[rcmaehl]

Source:

FCC

Engadget

 

Summary:

FCC is pushing for adoption of the SHAKEN/STIR framework which would validate call sources before reaching the callee. The FCC is threatening... "something"... if carriers don't comply.

 

Quotes/Excerpts:

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The FCC chairman has demanded the adoption of a robust call authentication system to prevent caller ID spoofing, telling American carriers to implement the technology no later than 2019. Letters to the CEOs of 14 voice providers to ask them to conjure up concrete plans to adopt the SHAKEN/STIR framework. "Combatting illegal robocalls is our top consumer priority at the FCC. That's why we need call authentication to become a reality" If it doesn't seem like the call authentication system is on track to get up and running by 2019, the FCC will take action. Pai didn't elaborate on what the FCC will do. The agency says it "stands ready to ensure widespread deployment to hit this important technological milestone." Caller ID spoofing is a massive problem in the country, and the FCC has been trying to squash the practice for years now. Earlier this year, it slapped a Miami resident responsible for over 96 million robocalls with a $120 million fine. 

 

My Thoughts:

While I'm more than ready for this, not everyone is. This is extremely likely kill off backwards compatibility for older phones, potentially even fax machines. Regardless, 95% of my calls are robocalls/spam so I'm more than hyped for this.

Edited November 9, 2018 by rcmaehl
Minor Edits Due to Reader Feedback

[Shally]

I write this as i decline the 5th spam phone call today. Good reddens 

[Syntaxvgm]

YOUR VEHICLES EXTENDED WARRANTY- 

 

 

 

THANK YOU FOR STAYING AT MARRIOTT HOTELS-

 

 

 

OBAMACARE ENROLLMENT IS NOW OPEN- 

 

 

YOU QUALIFY FOR COMPLETE FORGIVENESS ON YOUR STUDENT LOANS-

Not even a fucking real person to talk to, troll, or threaten anymore. Spoofed numbers you can't spam. Angry people calling these numbers back not understanding the spoof part. 

 

[The Benjamins]

6 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

YOUR VEHICLES EXTENDED WARRANTY- 

 

 

Same day as I got a brand new car.

"you vehicles warranty is about to expire, you can extend it up to another 5 year, bla bla bla"

[NinJake]

But I love trolling the scammers...

[DocSwag]

Yes please. One of the spam callers with similar numbers to mine called me and I trolled and texted them hi. Now I get like 3-4 a day....

[rcmaehl]

A LEGAL ACTION HAS BEEN PLACED ON YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. PRESS 1 NOW TO SPEAK TO AN OFFICER

[Taf the Ghost]

While I appreciate the naming scheme, I'd prefer if they used the "License to Kill" on those in charge of the robocalls. 

[Taf the Ghost]

My number appears to have been from an elderly couple before I got it, thus I get all of the Medical Alert & Cruise Line ones.

[Trik'Stari]

1 hour ago, VegetableStu said:

alternate gags:

• "Unfortunate Road Accident"
• "Scheduled Doctor's Visit after Dinner"
• "Surprise Shark Attack on Vessel"
• "Unannounced Rocket Trip to Nowhere"
• "Ruled Misadventure During Bed Activity"
• "Fatal Umbrella Allergy"

Could also go with "mugging where nothing was stolen".

 

 

Bonus points to anyone who gets that reference.

[Ryujin2003]

Holy fuck balls, the amount of Democratic party robo-calls I've gotten this past couple weeks has been ridiculous, on top of the free cruises and everything else. This would be amazing. Because I cannot really afford to change my number often. It takes a lot of time to reauthenticate all of my accounts with a new number. But holy hell.

 

Another thing that would help, is if companies STOPPED SELLING OUR FREAKING DATA!!!! or in the case of Facebook, giving it away for free.

[PianoPlayer88Key]

Yeah, I hope these robocalls are done with once and for all.

 

I've gotten to where I don't even get up to LOOK at the caller ID on the landline at home (yes my parents still have one).  We just let it go to voicemail, and if it's legitimate they'll usually leave a message, THEN we answer / return the call.

As for my cell phone, it's usually on silent 100% of the time.  And actually, in the back of my mind is the idea of changing to an internet only phone plan so I wouldn't even *HAVE* a phone number.  (How would I do things like 2FA or other things that use a phone number for verification, though...)

 

One thing I think would be interesting (but realize it'd be quite unlikely) ... is have unsolicited-sales-callers (or whatever term would cover all possibilities) be financially on the hook.  For example, spammer calls you, intending to try to sell something, or whatever financial gain they'd hope for.  Even if you never answer the phone (it'd be traced to them by the phone number), they would owe YOU one thousand percent (that is, 10 TIMES) the money they would have hoped to have in revenue from you in a best-case-to-them scenario. (as in, if you had bought the most expensive of everything they were trying to sell at full list / inflated price, and didn't say no to anything.)  AND, if for whatever reason you DID want something similar to what they were selling, you'd get a longer-than-lifetime free unlimited supply (inheritable by your descendants, and the privilege cloneable unlimited numbers of times to whomever you wanted to gift it to, who in turn could do the same) of the product either from them, or (on the spammer's dime) from the competitor of your choice.  (The only way the company would get out of it would be to either declare chapter 7, or change ownership and management staff completely cold-turkey (no overlap where they have a new manager of one department working at the same time as an incumbent manager of another department for example) or something like that.)

[Taf the Ghost]

42 minutes ago, Ryujin2003 said:

Holy fuck balls, the amount of Democratic party robo-calls I've gotten this past couple weeks has been ridiculous, on top of the free cruises and everything else. This would be amazing. Because I cannot really afford to change my number often. It takes a lot of time to reauthenticate all of my accounts with a new number. But holy hell.

 

Another thing that would help, is if companies STOPPED SELLING OUR FREAKING DATA!!!! or in the case of Facebook, giving it away for free.

Worst is the robocall for a candidate in another State. "Yes, voice of a robocall, that's great. Good luck to your candidate, but I'm at least 1000 miles from that jurisdiction."

[Noctus]

Having experienced ZERO of this in the UK, i find the amount of people getting spam calls in America hilarious and i'm amazed that this is a thing.

 

sorry

not sorry

[vanished]

Sounds good to me.  The current phone system is hilariously and pathetically broken and useless.  Anything that can be done to bring it into the 21st century is a welcome change in my opinion.

[DeepFriendLettuce]

I'm assuming that people aren't using certain apps out there, like Robokiller, to deal with the robo calls. If you haven't heard of Robokiller you should check it out.

[Kenji the Uke]

>EXTENDED CAR WARRANTY

 

But my car is an 88 nissan.. PLS FIX MY CAR WUT

[Curufinwe_wins]

Doesn't matter because the FCC and legislature have explicitly wrote themselves out of the law. Anything political in nature is allowed to bypass spam and robocall regulations as long as a human being presses the enter button. So now services exist that sell the capacity for one person to sit in a room and just hit send 1500 times an hour to do the canvasing work of 8 people before hand. These technologies and stretches of the system will only grow in capabilities, and if the FCC actually cracks down on standard robocalls. The robocallers will simply shift over to these methodsincluding political statements that way they can get away with it legally.

 

Of course few politicians care about closing that terrible horrible loophole, so have fun everyone.

[mynameisjuan]

OK Mr Goverment, when you tell me how to stop spoofed calls from a VOIP service over a VPN please let me know. If you can I will implement it to our network

[Cyberspirit]

Man, I'm glad this isn't such a big thing here. Sometimes we get a couple of calls but, it's easy to shake them off.

[TheSLSAMG]

Please God put my phone out of its' misery. I keep getting calls that are either about chronic pain (which I don't have), Visa/Mastercard rewards (which I don't have) or are entirely in Chinese (which I don't understand.)

[AlTech]

I can't relate at all cos I basically never get robocalls.

[Jito463]

10 hours ago, NinJake said:

But I love trolling the scammers...

10 hours ago, DocSwag said:

Yes please. One of the spam callers with similar numbers to mine called me and I trolled and texted them hi. Now I get like 3-4 a day....

I tried that once, and got harassed with multiple robocallls from them afterwards for my trouble.  And to top it off, the whole thing was automated, so I never got to troll anyone.  

7 hours ago, PianoPlayer88Key said:

And actually, in the back of my mind is the idea of changing to an internet only phone plan so I wouldn't even *HAVE* a phone number.  (How would I do things like 2FA or other things that use a phone number for verification, though...)

You could use a VOIP line, which would still have an actual number attached to it (though I'm not sure how text messages would be handled).

[rcmaehl]

12 hours ago, Jito463 said:

I tried that once, and got harassed with multiple robocallls from them afterwards for my trouble.  And to top it off, the whole thing was automated, so I never got to troll anyone.  

That's why you do it on your GVoice burner instead.

[TechyBen]

"Hi... are. You, MR Technical Ben?"

"Hi, are you possibly a recording?"

...

...

"I, AM, sorry... I did not understand, that".

"Are you possibly a recording?"

...

...

[Phone hangs up].