RTX Reviews

[D13H4RD]

1 minute ago, pas008 said:

isnt dlss ready now though?

Not entirely

[DocSwag]

38 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Navi may be Q2 2019, but Ryzen 3rd Gen is at least in the 2nd half of 2019. It's going to be a bit. AMD's wafer space at TSMC is going to those Rome parts for a while. The one tapeout at GloFo that has to be moved was the 7nm APU, more then likely. AMD lags their APUs a cycle behind their Mainstream parts, mostly due to the GPU side of the equation, I assume.

Q1 always seemed more likely to me seeing as that's when the past Ryzen CPUs was announced. Also 7nm has been in volume production since Q2 of this year and we're already seeing SoCs built off of it so it's definitely possible to see it then.

[Taf the Ghost]

7 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

is the next cycle shortened? o_o I thought they did 2 years in-between generations

Though I do have to laugh: we're talking about the next generation of products in the thread about the Launch Reviews.

 

21xx or 30xx parts, I'd tag, as May 2020. Just to through a date out there.

[pas008]

1 minute ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

Not entirely

what do you mean isnt this up to dev to send in source to nvidia to run on dxg?

[D13H4RD]

Just now, pas008 said:

what do you mean isnt this up to dev to send in source to nvidia to run on dxg?

I said not entirely because there isn't much to test it on. There's barely anything out there natively running DLSS aside from that Final Fantasy demo that NVIDIA sent to reviewers.

[schwellmo92]

11 minutes ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

I've watched 4-5 different reviews already, and here's my personal opinion after watching all of them, summed up in one word.

Meh

I mean, let's be honest with ourselves for a bit. If you don't count the price, the 2080 and 2080 Ti are solid GPUs. They make a solid improvement over their predecessors and especially the 2080 Ti is an absolute beast at 3840x2160, pretty much being the ideal choice for those who want to play games at that resolution beyond 60FPS.

 

Those people will have to pay a pretty penny, however. Given that you'll be more likely to buy an RTX 2080 Ti at $1199, that represents around a 70% increase in price for around a 35%-ish performance bump, which already is pretty bad value. This gets even worse when you plop in the RTX 2080, which is at best equivalent to a GTX 1080 Ti and at worst, 9% slower, at $100 more (not counting AIB partner prices, which are going to add onto that).

 

Basically, you really have to bank on both RTX ray-tracing and DLSS to really get your money's worth, except they won't be available until October. So that already puts a dampener on things.

 

I honestly don't know what to say but I'll probably sum it up with this.

• Buy the 2080 Ti if you already spent mega on a 4K 144Hz monitor and need a GPU that's best to pair it up with. If you can afford that expensive-ass monitor, I don't think a 2080 Ti should be much of an issue.
• Don't bother with the 2080 unless you're a certain Avram Piltch and you can't live without ray tracing. Buy the GTX 1080 Ti instead, which will be cheaper

You’re forgetting that the 1080ti also has 11gb of VRAM and the 2080 only 8gb

[Derangel]

4 minutes ago, pas008 said:

isnt dlss ready now though?

It's not available in any game yet. There is no information on exactly when it will be. Even for games like FFXV, that are already out, there is no hint as to when they will add support. There is absolutely nothing that the end user can run DLSS on right now.

[D13H4RD]

3 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

You’re forgetting that the 1080ti also has 11gb of VRAM and the 2080 only 8gb

Which also helps the 1080 Ti's cause.

 

You get roughly equivalent performance, more VRAM and likely a cheaper price.

 

Plus, by the time RTX and DLSS are matured and refined, RTX 30 would probably be out, and likely based on 7nm.

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Q1 always seemed more likely to me seeing as that's when the past Ryzen CPUs was announced. Also 7nm has been in volume production since Q2 of this year and we're already seeing SoCs built off of it so it's definitely possible to see it then.

Apple, even though at mass volume production, still pays a lot more per Wafer than AMD will be, so it's simply a matter of when it makes the best economic sense, given their wafer allotment. This is, obviously, information we don't have yet. The other thing is, with production for Desktop products moved to TSMC, they could move up the releases. We'll find out, but the rumors are still pretty late in 2019 for it.

 

PCIe 4.0 is at least on the way for Rome, so, likely, Desktop as well. AM4+ seems like it'll be real.

[pas008]

2 minutes ago, Derangel said:

It's not available in any game yet. There is no information on exactly when it will be. Even for games like FFXV, that are already out, there is no hint as to when they will add support. There is absolutely nothing that the end user can run DLSS on right now.

ok them stating all these games added is just a lie then

or just not available

not available yet is nothing new happens all the time in tech

[cj09beira]

1 hour ago, TahoeDust said:

Anyone see any 3440x1440 reviews?

 

[Taf the Ghost]

2 minutes ago, pas008 said:

ok them stating all these games added is just a lie then

or just not available

not available yet is nothing new happens all the time in tech

There's a Windows patch next month to allow the RT stuff to work properly. So, we're left with the question: Why didn't Nvidia just wait until October to launch?

[cj09beira]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

There's a Windows patch next month to allow the RT stuff to work properly. So, we're left with the question: Why didn't Nvidia just wait until October to launch?

specially considering they have an overstock of old cards, could they actually be trying to reduce the hype ??

[pas008]

5 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

There's a Windows patch next month to allow the RT stuff to work properly. So, we're left with the question: Why didn't Nvidia just wait until October to launch?

so they can be in peoples hands as it happens

i dont know

sales to get those profits

why does companies release new products every year that actually do nothing but just new and looks different

 

maybe they are pushing to moving to 7nm faster also

[Serban Ungureanu]

If you are a 3D Artist doing a lot of offlien rendering, does it make more sense to buy an RTX2080 than for a gamer?

[Derangel]

1 minute ago, Serban Ungureanu said:

If you are a 3D Artist doing a lot of offlien rendering, does it make more sense to buy an RTX2080 than for a gamer?

It might, but I doubt you will find many benchmarks on those types of applications until after the cards launch.

[Tenelia]

Good thoughts from everyone so far.

 

I'm in Southeast Asia, and so far I'm able to grab a 1080ti for 510USD, or a Vega 64 for 454USD.

Any idea what to get?

[TahoeDust]

9 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

 

I should have been more specific.  2080 ti 3440x1440 reviews.

[cj09beira]

5 minutes ago, Tenelia said:

Good thoughts from everyone so far.

 

I'm in Southeast Asia, and so far I'm able to grab a 1080ti for 510USD, or a Vega 64 for 454USD.

Any idea what to get?

a vega would be my choice if i also would buy a monitor soon, due to freesync, though if its a high refresh monitor (120+) then freesync doesn't help as much 

edit. misread it, if its only 50 bucks for a 1080 ti get that

[Taf the Ghost]

5 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

specially considering they have an overstock of old cards, could they actually be trying to reduce the hype ??

At this point, there's just as likely of a reason as anything else, though word is they stopped producing 1080 Ti dies, which makes sense. Once supply starts to dry up, people will buy 2080s. These are big dies that are quite expensive, so they might honestly just releasing the gaming side of the matter so they can sell the new generation Quadros. Jensen seemed much more pleased when talking about Quadros over Gaming, so that probably has something to do with it. As Linus mentioned, these are rocking Production cards.

[Taf the Ghost]

6 minutes ago, Serban Ungureanu said:

If you are a 3D Artist doing a lot of offlien rendering, does it make more sense to buy an RTX2080 than for a gamer?

All of the drivers aren't out yet, but if you do GPU rendering, probably. However, need to wait on benchmarks & drivers. Those'll come in a few months.

[Taf the Ghost]

4 minutes ago, Tenelia said:

Good thoughts from everyone so far.

 

I'm in Southeast Asia, and so far I'm able to grab a 1080ti for 510USD, or a Vega 64 for 454USD.

Any idea what to get?

Unless you have a really expensive FreeSync display, get the 1080 Ti for that price.

[EarthWormJM2]

2 hours ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Without the extra RTX features enabled at launch, exactly what would be the point of buying this card in the here and now?

If you have a Pascal card right now... not much. 15-25% boost in performance at an even higher cost. Stick to buying 1080's and 1080 ti's as their prices drop if you were looking for an upgrade. Maybe if more games start picking up RTX features and adding DLSS for them performance gains, but until I see that more widespread, I'm gonna hold on to my 1080 until next gen.

[Taf the Ghost]

2070 should push passed the 1080 pretty solidly, if these results for SM improvement hold going down the stack.

[Froody129]

Long live my 980ti